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  • #46
    Plus women who wear scaf just look like a respectable women, you can tell that they are good women.

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    • #47
      Silence is key sometimes

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      • #48
        please answer onething.....

        women wearing skingtight clothes like pair of jeans and a top (body hugging, and no duppata of course)but a head scarf are better or the ones wearing shalwar kamees (not hugging the body) a duppata over you all the time and no head scarf?????

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        • #49
          Head scarf is not needed at all, in the house....unless u are around non-mahram. Yes the body is more important, like you shouldn't wear indecent clothes in the house...just like a guy in his house shouldn't be exposing his private parts by wearing such tight clothes..
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          • #50
            I know a persons attire makes an impression...but is it really anyones place to make judgments on how girls dress AT HOME?

            I am not saying anyone said something exactly like that ... but maybe someone will see what I mean.

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            • #51
              Girls can dress however they want at home, so that was my point of saying who is to say a girl needs to wear a head scarf at home?? If you wanna put burdens on yourself then fine, thats your own business...

              I just put the Islamic ruling forward, where in Islam nobody is told to do that. I think as muslims we should acknowledge wat our faith requires of us and this is not a requirement.
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              • #52
                ^ Sayih dai to teach people what is said ...there's nothing wrong with that...

                I just felt like people were being judged on something they're doing that isn't harmful or wrong... and it doesn't make sense to dwell over such things ...at least not to me.

                Btw wearing a scarf isn't such a burden

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                • #53
                  Ok thats your opinion, other girls might disagree...
                  Last edited by Saifullah; 08-24-2010, 02:39 PM.
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                  • #54
                    ^ And they're more than welcome to ... those who do disagree will make sure they don't burden themselves

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                    • #55
                      Once the Prophet (SAW) stopped eating honey because he went to one wife and then the next. She smelt the honey and i forgot the story...but then he stopped eating honey. Then Allah told him why are you forbidding something for yourself that was made halal for you. So i think we should not be arrogant and think we are being more pious when Allah has allowed something for us! TO make our lives easier.

                      Another example for you Iqra, on travelling Allah said shorten your prayers. But some ultra pious people say oh i will pray fully coz i can and its not a burden upon me. Do you know how much that act Allah will hate of that person that he has made life easy for him to pray 2 rakats on journey instead of 4...yet he thinks he is pious by praying 4??

                      Its about maintality and i have seen pashtun/afghan maintality many times, they over complicate things and wish to seem that they are being more respectable or pious by doing these acts. They forget the major stuff and tell their kids oh do this it is disrespectful, do this and that...but they don't tell them about the main things that constitute respect! Do not lie and so on.
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                      • #56
                        ^ Saif... that honey story was because God knew that whatEVER the Prophet avoids, Muslims will start consider it haraam (this is already the case with so many Muslims, some on PF as well). If the Prophet ate honey, people would believe it's okay to do so; if he didn't, even though he just didn't like it, people would think it's haraam or SOMETHING must be wrong with it that's why he didn't it.

                        It's just like his favorite perfume: He preferred musk, and so today, Muslims loooooooooooooove musk just because the Prophet did. Hello?! It's about liking and interests. Then we find justifications for why he must have liked musk and why we should as well -- and how OUR liking it makes it sunnah. Seriously?

                        So if you're serving as an example for over a billion people, then by all means do only what you're supposed to do and nothing more. But that's not the case with us.

                        Why should I start showing my hair or arms in front of my father all of a sudden just because I am "allowed" to by Islam?

                        If something's WRONG with a certain practice AND it contradicts Islam, I would understand why you'd wanna remove it from your culture. But if there's nothing wrong with it and there is in fact some good in it, then why remove it?

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                        • #57
                          Oh, and you're confusing commands with suggestions. If God says something just to make our lives easier, it's a general *suggestion* to us so that we don't complain about it and blame God for everything. It is by no means a requirement that we MUST do this just because it's intended to make our life easier. Where's the ease in it if I'm gonna VOLUNTARILY pray the full namaz while on a journey when I can just pray a shorter version and be punished for doing so?

                          We're told not to cross our limits -- although the limits are defined differently by different scholars. But it's completely illogical and unreasonable to say that "Since it's intended to make your life easier for you, go ahead and pray only 4 rakats instead of 10." And you go, "Thanks for the permission. I still feel comfortable praying the normal 10 because that's what I am used to, and I feel more at peace when I've done it the normal way than the recommended way."

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                          • #58
                            Well my point is fathers should not demand such a thing...because i have seen fathers demanding this of their daughters back home. If a GIRL chooses to do something which is allowed and feels comfortable or whatever thats another story.

                            If you wanna show your hair in front of your family you are ALLOWED, therefore nobody can tell you to cover unwillingly. Some of my relatives i know keep telling me we are fed up of this practice...but they do it coz they have to
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                            • #59
                              Shlombay back home women show their rear ends in shalwar kamis more than in any other clothes...even when they wear scarf
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                              • #60
                                Girls (in general) do wear jeans back in Afghanistan. When out to the city, girls wear jeans, and a long top that it is buttoned up, kinda like a light coat or sweater, i dont even know what it is called. But it covers their chest and back area. Then they wear a scarf with it. Or they wear shalwar kameez, but with a black coat over it. If you wear shalwar kameez in the city, most likely men will bother you (i experienced it all).

                                At home they wear shalwar kameez with chadar or hijab on. when i was there, even girls wore head covering around their maharams and even when ladies were alone with other females.

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