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  • #61
    Originally posted by Forreigner View Post
    You seem to hate Westerners so much but look around dude, they have a point...you arabs are so proud of your primitive culture, yet

    Just because you live in the West doesn't mean you have to hand them your testes in a jar and grovel before their feet. I like the West, doesn't mean I don't see their flaws and weaknesses too. I'm not a Desi who blindly accepts everything.

    Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


    Originally posted by ذو الفقار
    don’t try to be smart.

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    • #62
      I personally think people should be free to pursue polygamy if they want. They also practice polygamy in parts of the West. Look up Utah, USA.

      Whether it's right or not is subjective, and you are free to make your own decision on that, and conduct yourself accordingly.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Elite Pakhtun View Post
        I personally think people should be free to pursue polygamy if they want. They also practice polygamy in parts of the West. Look up Utah, USA.

        Whether it's right or not is subjective, and you are free to make your own decision on that, and conduct yourself accordingly.

        Well fundamentally there's nothing inherently wrong with polygamy; this narrative that polygamy is "less civilized" than Western models of relationships is culturally biased and also disingenuous since Western society marriage itself has become desecrated and "open relationships" are a big trend among Millennials and 30-somethings, along with promiscuity. Of course not all Westerners endorse those things, but it;s very prominent in the Radical Left circles.

        That withstanding there are practical problems with unchecked polygamy;like limiting the availability of marriageable women; considerably older men hoarding women, considerably younger women, who are developmentally at two different poles. This has to be addressed before a healthy relationship with polygamy is possible. But I would never BAN polygamy, but I would regulate it,

        Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


        Originally posted by ذو الفقار
        don’t try to be smart.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
          Well fundamentally there's nothing inherently wrong with polygamy; this narrative that polygamy is "less civilized" than Western models of relationships is culturally biased and also disingenuous since Western society marriage itself has become desecrated and "open relationships" are a big trend among Millennials and 30-somethings, along with promiscuity. Of course not all Westerners endorse those things, but it;s very prominent in the Radical Left circles.

          That withstanding there are practical problems with unchecked polygamy;like limiting the availability of marriageable women; considerably older men hoarding women, considerably younger women, who are developmentally at two different poles. This has to be addressed before a healthy relationship with polygamy is possible. But I would never BAN polygamy, but I would regulate it,
          No i am not accepting everything Westerners view as 'right'...

          Polygamy is wrong since for most obvious reason that ugly men hoard all the women.....hence why you Arabs are generally ugly people....its because all these ugly fat sheikhs are hoarding all the women and passing on their ugly genes....

          Polygamy is also a good way to inbreed your population as well which is another reason why you Arabs are so retarded and primitive beside being a generally unattractive race...

          If Polygamy must be implemented, only attractive men shall be allowed to hoard women (as nature perhaps originally intends) to make the population better looking...but again it will lead to inbreeding of a population as it overtime eliminates variety, since only few men pass on their genes over the majority of men.

          Polygamy overall doesnt belong in an advanced society though...every member of society must be sexually and romantically satisfied otherwise there will be problems...
          Last edited by Forreigner; 11-07-2016, 04:17 AM.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Forreigner View Post
            No i am not accepting everything Westerners view as 'right'...

            Polygamy is wrong since for most obvious reason that ugly men hoard all the women.....hence why you Arabs are generally ugly people....its because all these ugly fat sheikhs are hoarding all the women and passing on their ugly genes....

            If Polygamy must be implemented, only attractive men shall be allowed to hoard women (as nature perhaps originally intends) to make the population better looking...

            Polygamy overall doesnt belong in an advanced society though...every member of society must be sexually and romantically satisfied otherwise there will be problems...
            Personally I believe that societies and peoples that practice polygamy should have no qualms about practicing polyandry as well.

            Fair's fair no? As they say for a scooter ad in India - why should boys have all the fun?

            Although considering that each woman comes with a mother-in-law gratis as part of the package deal, I wonder who's actually having more fun.

            Cheers, Doc
            Last edited by vsdoc; 11-07-2016, 04:27 AM.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Forreigner
              who gives a **** about race in this age....i am indian myself, and I am planning to marry a white girl...

              If you live in the West, there is probably no point in trying to keep your race "pure" by marrying someone of your own race as it most likely will be absorbed by the majority group eventually..
              I knew a couple of Russian sisters once. Olga and Ina.

              I could consider Olga as a mate. Ina was too big and aggressive.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Forreigner View Post
                ]Polygamy is wrong since for most obvious reason that ugly men hoard all the women.....hence why you Arabs are generally ugly people....its because all these ugly fat sheikhs are hoarding all the women and passing on their ugly genes....

                Actually according to evolutionary socio-biology/anthropology, Almost all modern Humans are descendants of Polygamist/Polygynist Unions. The men who were able to get more wives/partners were the most capable and resourceful men of the species, and this is what lead to our brain development and ability to innovate and use tools. It's quite a fascinating analysis.

                I can't speak on their looks; but if we're talking about advantages; generally polgyny offered species advantages for humans, Ideals of male appearance have changed and is subjective, back then they were more rugged and probably hairier, but I'm pretty sure they matched the standards of their environment. Probably very muscular or agile and symmetrical, as those are universal markers.

                Also what you're claiming is absolute nonsense; no evidence shows polygamy leads to "inbreeding". Besides you're the one who keeps talking about the pure race stuff and not mixing outside your ethnicity. That means staying within a RELATED population Pool. Come on. That's more likely to cause inbreeding than polygyny. In polygyny you don't HAVE to marry from the same pool. This is why this association is nonsense, because there's no necessary outcome of this.

                The hoarding issue I already address, but it's something we can overcome and regulate to prevent that. So also not a necessary outcome.

                WHat are you talking about man? People do Polygamy all the time in these so called "bullsh8t" culturally self patronizing label of "Advanced Societies". They just call it Serial Monogamy.

                Just blindly tossing around the word "Advanced" or "Civilized" means nothing.

                Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                don’t try to be smart.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by vsdoc View Post
                  P.

                  Fair's fair no? As they say for a scooter ad in India - why should boys have all the fun?
                  Men and women are sexually dimorphic so not really. It wouldn't work since women can only get pregnant by one man during a reproductive period. where as men don't have that cap.

                  Also from evolutionary anthropology understanding; polygyny with women had supportered our species advancement; polyandry did not. so it shows polyandry would not have been beneficial for society over all.

                  Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                  Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                  don’t try to be smart.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Forreigner View Post
                    belong in an advanced society though...every member of society must be sexually and romantically satisfied otherwise there will be problems...
                    Even in a society where there's "no polygamy" as you see it, it doesn't happen. Not everyone gets a partner. And it's common that people share partners LOL

                    Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                    Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                    don’t try to be smart.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
                      Men and women are sexually dimorphic so not really. It wouldn't work since women can only get pregnant by one man during a reproductive period. where as men don't have that cap.

                      Also from evolutionary anthropology understanding; polygyny with women had supportered our species advancement; polyandry did not. so it shows polyandry would not have been beneficial for society over all.
                      A woman has needs just as a man does. It's not only about procreation. And if a man can spread his seed across multiple women, to push his bloodline forward. So can a woman spread her ova among multiple male partners to accentuate different positive traits and maintain the heterogeneity of the gene pool.

                      Multiple male mates means few can go hunting and to protracted military campaigns, while she's at home still satisfied and bearing different babies.

                      Cheers, Doc

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                      • #71
                        I must compliment u guys. Pleasantly surprised and not a little impressed.

                        By this stage of such a discussion on PDF some mulla would have come up with multiple Hadith, and/or chopped my d**k off, and/or asked me why my mother/wife/daughter/sister did not do what I was arguing or suggesting.

                        Kudos Pashtun cousins.

                        Cheers, Doc

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
                          I love the sad eyes of North African women, some Pashtun and Desi ladies have that too.. The eyes of the lady you picked are alright. I do like desi eyes though.


                          These are some Indo-Mauritian woman. The first one and the 4th one down are totally women I'd be attracted to, especially the first one. LOVE Curly hair.

                          Where do your find women like the first one, are they too rare mixture?

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by vsdoc View Post
                            A woman has needs just as a man does. It's not only about procreation. And if a man can spread his seed across multiple women, to push his bloodline forward. So can a woman spread her ova among multiple male partners to accentuate different positive traits and maintain the heterogeneity of the gene pool.

                            Multiple male mates means few can go hunting and to protracted military campaigns, while she's at home still satisfied and bearing different babies.

                            Cheers, Doc
                            Women have needs of course; but they're not necessarily in the same character.

                            LOL Well obviously, woman can't spread their ova. What you're talking about is physiologically unfeasible. You're right however about women in mate-selectivity. But Evolution has made physiology and anatomy as limiting factor. The old "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus passage". All the factors culminated that males are better suited for polygyny and women for monogamy, although, crossovers have and do exist, they're the extreme cases and have been surpassed by the normative male-female dichotomy we usually see.

                            Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                            Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                            don’t try to be smart.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Forreigner View Post
                              Where do your find women like the first one, are they too rare mixture?
                              I don't know, I think she's Mauritan. I've seen African girls (East African) that have her features, but she's clearly of Indian origins.

                              Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                              Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                              don’t try to be smart.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
                                I don't know, I think she's Mauritan. I've seen African girls (East African) that have her features, but she's clearly of Indian origins.
                                It seems that Indians and Africans need to mix more often....

                                Makes me wonder what people will look like someday in the distant future when the world eventually becomes one united state and moving around becomes unrestricted, cheap, easy and fast....makes you somewhat envy a little those who will be born in 1000 years from now

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