maata la jannata kabul khkukay dey..

[Shehbaz Khan]

What definition of Islam do Mullahs give that is different?

Alot of times.. Let for example be the hatred of one sect towards another. The seeds of these are inculcated by the Mullahs around on the other hand what the religion teaches is love for humanity and mankind. Our Prophet PBUH was even kind to non-muslims today the Mullah is telling me that if I go to the mosque of another sect I'm a Non-Muslim?

Ma pa gul ki woleed che ta ye na weni kitab ki,
Ay mullah! da neem kitab mi waoredo rabab ki

[Shehbaz Khan]

And thanks for that Takkar's video - listened to it after a very long time enjoyed it !

Takkar pa yao interview ki wayel che ma na Ghani Khan tapos oko che ta zama da ghazali wayi pa di da pukhtana pohegi? Nu wai ma warta wayl che na ji na pohegi ! wai dier zyat pa khanda sho ma ta e wayl aao kana ka dwi poheday nu dasi ba wo !

[khushal]

first of all, this man's name is sardar ali takkar, not haroon pachaa. secondly, the language used is basic pashto and the song is about someone who is giving valid reasons for the choice he has made. your choice is obviously a different one than his. what i don't understand is why you or the other idiot did not stop listening to it after the first three lines of the lyrics if you find it so offensive. the other thing that i don't understand is why you are offended by the choice that he has made for himself. it's not like he is tying a bomb around your neck and forcing you to commit sins so you too could go to hell with him the way individuals that you hold in your highest regards do to people to force them in to going to heaven with them.

What are you ranting about? I never said his name is haroon pacha. I never claimed I was offended by him. I asked a simple question, can you explain the lyrics.

Try for once in your life to talk like a human being.

[DaZahroJaam.]

What are you ranting about? I never said his name is haroon pacha. I never claimed I was offended by him. I asked a simple question, can you explain the lyrics.

Try for once in your life to talk like a human being.

if it's not the substance behind his lyrics then what the **** are you asking me the meanings to?? do you not understand pashto??

there is something inside you about your conscious that needs constant justification. when i insult you, it feels like a martyr but when i don't, you force it to believe that it has been insulted. it's called GUILT. deal with it.
and next time, when you feel insulted, quote me on the part that you find insulting.

[DaZahroJaam.]

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[khushal]

if it's not the substance behind his lyrics then what the **** are you asking me the meanings to?? do you not understand pashto??

there is something inside you about your conscious that needs constant justification. when i insult you, it feels like a martyr but when i don't, you force it to believe that it has been insulted. it's called GUILT. deal with it.
and next time, when you feel insulted, quote me on the part that you find insulting.

Stop getting mad and calm down.
explain it when he says "janatoona de jahan sha"

@shehbaz khan you could also put your two cents in please.

[DaZahroJaam.]

i already did and you called it ranting, you dumbass. you speak pashto, explain it to yourself on your own.

[khushal]

i already did and you called it ranting, you dumbass. you speak pashto, explain it to yourself on your own.

you said he is giving "valid" reasons for the choices he has made. his valid reason for drinking "sharob" is "zwanai mastay de jor sha," that's not a valid reason, that's an excuse.

And you are the one who said they are misunderstood and now your criticizing me because I want to understand.

@shehbaz khan
What is your opinion?

[DaZahroJaam.]

you said he is giving "valid" reasons for the choices he has made. his valid reason for drinking "sharob" is "zwanai mastay de jor sha," that's not a valid reason, that's an excuse.

And you are the one who said they are misunderstood and now your criticizing me because I want to understand.

@shahbazkhan
What is your opinion?

valid as in accurate. he is not being deceiving or sly about it. he is not denying God's promised heaven, he is simply saying he wants to celebrate it on earth rather than waiting for the judgment's day. in that he is wrong because he has chosen a different option than others would but he has chosen it for himself. he is not forcing it on others.
i don't recall ever saying that these people were misunderstood but as it seems, they are misunderstood. i have never been a fan of ghani khan but it's most definitely not because i don't understand him as is the case with you. i will not be bias towards him either just because i don't agree with him.
to understand someone and to agree with them are two different things. refusing to understand someone from the fear of ending up agreeing with them is bull like dumbassedness which is very likely of someone with your character. that about summarizes everything that i have to say to and about you. good day to you.

[khushal]

valid as in accurate. he is not being deceiving or sly about it. he is not denying God's promised heaven, he is simply saying he wants to celebrate it on earth rather than waiting for the judgment's day. in that he is wrong because he has chosen a different option than others would but he has chosen it for himself. he is not forcing it on others.
i don't recall ever saying that these people were misunderstood but as it seems, they are misunderstood. i have never been a fan of ghani khan but it's most definitely not because i don't understand him as is the case with you. i will not be bias towards him either just because i don't agree with him.
to understand someone and to agree with them are two different things. refusing to understand someone from the fear of ending up agreeing with them is bull like dumbassedness which is very likely of someone with your character. that about summarizes everything that i have to say to and about you. good day to you.

you keep insulting me on every post while I have not insulted you on any and you question my character. OK what ever makes you happy.

But back to the song.
So your and ghani khans definition of heaven is to drink "sharab" and "mastee?" Is that what you think heaven is? And he is denying Janat because he believes it does not exist, and that it is" here," it is in the "drink" that gives the illusion of janat. He talks about how the mullah tells him to go to the mosque and his answer is that there is no sharob there meaning there is no janat there. He is equating janat with sharab. This is deceiving the young. He is no different than the rappers that promote smoking dope and bagging women who sell that lifestyle as janat.

True Deception.

[khushal]

I always thought takar was a good singer but now I would look at him as those loser rappers. and ghani khan has shamed his family.

[DaZahroJaam.]

you are a ****ing moron and there is no hope for you. if anything, you should consider the fact that you were being communicated with for that while as a compliment. but God, you are an idiot!
this conversation is over.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Alot of times.. Let for example be the hatred of one sect towards another.

Hatred is sometimes justified. If someone claims to be a Muslim but worships dead people, hatred of such a person is an act of worship. Shirk is according to Quran the worst of all sins. Allah hates those who ascribe partners to him. Worshipping other than Allah is therefore a horrible crime. Therefore hatred of such a person is true to the core teachings of Islam.

Hatred of other sects for insignifant matters, like difference of legal opinions, is however not praiseworthy. In that I agree, Muslim clerics do misguide people by being hostile and intolerant to fellow Muslims. Scholars don't do that. Only ignorant people do that.

Hatred of non-Muslims for their disbelief is justified. But being hostile and intolerant without any reason is against the teachings of Islam. I agree, Muslim clerics who lash out at disbelievers for no reason are misguiding people. Most scholars don't do that. Only ignorant people would do that.


The problem is, Ghani Khan and his fellow zanadiqah insult every person who is a scholar or not. As long as a person preaches Islam and practices the sunnah, he is deemed a Mullah and therefore an enemy.

The Prophet Muhammad sal allahu alayhi wasalams inheritors are the scholars. But Ghani Khan and his likes insult scholars. Insultig scholars is insutling Islam because they are they are the representatives of our religion, they are our ambassadors.

[Shehbaz Khan]

I always thought takar was a good singer but now I would look at him as those loser rappers. and ghani khan has shamed his family.

Takkar still IS a good singer and may God grant him a long life. He will be.

Khushaal, to understand someone like Ghani Khan, Hamza Baba, Khushal Khan and Rehman Baba isn't that much easy. Ghani is tellin you the 'weakness' of humans. Who wants to wait for the heaven? Ofcourse you may disagree as DZJ said but he has a point. Even in the same video did you listen to 'Che di was da bado na wi .. sa ba ta sa ba di kha wi?' Go on and listen to 'Che masti wi aw zwani wi aao janan wi aao dak jam' or 'Da adam da nazar tol day' or 'Badshahi da jahan sa kay zan la wali zyatay gham'? I can go on and go on.. Like listen to 'Lewaniya zmaka sa da .. Mullah koar da yao aashiq day .. Lewaniya sajda sa da .. Mullah zan khawri kawal di .. da mastai da gulo haar da yar khpo ki achawal di' go on and listen to 'Sir pa zmaka bandi kegda pa raz pohe da asman shi .. stargi storo da kra porta che pa shan pohe da jahan shi' by takkar as well

Have you read/heard Ajmal Khattak's 'Da lweyo lweyo qudratono Raba' which was sung by Gulzar Alam? Or another poem of Ajmal Khattak in which he asks about Jannat from different people and get different answers?

So don't just take word to word meaning give it some time and understanding. There is a video on youtube with the name 'Abaseen Yousufzai about Ghani Khan' watch that sometime, I would have posted the link but I use proxy so my links won't work for you.

Ajmal Khattak once said (I guess about himself but suits Ghani Khan as well)

Ay da watan khawri
Sta da zaro shundo dua za yam
Pa zegedo bandi che fakhar kawi
Hagha sangeen bachay da sta za yam
Za kho raraa yam raraagani kala
Pa zanzerono ki taralay shi sok
Za kho faulaad yam fauladona kala
Pa khwla mandalay aao khwaralay shi sok

[Shehbaz Khan]

Hatred is sometimes justified. If someone claims to be a Muslim but worships dead people, hatred of such a person is an act of worship. Shirk is according to Quran the worst of all sins. Allah hates those who ascribe partners to him. Worshipping other than Allah is therefore a horrible crime. Therefore hatred of such a person is true to the core teachings of Islam.

Hatred of other sects for insignifant matters, like difference of legal opinions, is however not praiseworthy. In that I agree, Muslim clerics do misguide people by being hostile and intolerant to fellow Muslims. Scholars don't do that. Only ignorant people do that.

Hatred of non-Muslims for their disbelief is justified. But being hostile and intolerant without any reason is against the teachings of Islam. I agree, Muslim clerics who lash out at disbelievers for no reason are misguiding people. Most scholars don't do that. Only ignorant people would do that.


The problem is, Ghani Khan and his fellow zanadiqah insult every person who is a scholar or not. As long as a person preaches Islam and practices the sunnah, he is deemed a Mullah and therefore an enemy.

The Prophet Muhammad sal allahu alayhi wasalams inheritors are the scholars. But Ghani Khan and his likes insult scholars. Insultig scholars is insutling Islam because they are they are the representatives of our religion, they are our ambassadors.

You agreed partly. Now let's move to any street of Pakhtuns for example in Charsaddah and see how many Scholars are found? and how many of them are misguiding people? Ghani never named anyone? Did he? No! he just picked the term Mullah and attacked the wrong teachings of the Mullahs



Chaghi wahi ajal Mullah ta aaori ka na aaori,
Tasha khawra na da Ghani sanga ba shi khaori

Getting the point?