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[QUOTE=M17ArnoBaloch;710699]EvilPorkistani is banned or can't quote him but I will still answer him because he will find a way to see my post.
So even if a Pakistani Journalist for example like Najam Sethi or Hamid Mir oppose the Pakistani rule of Balochistan and give them the right to Independence, they are automatically fags? Or American puppets. You have a great formula of thinking capacity I must say. Instead of calling these journalists fags or American puppets first pick up a Book and read about the Issue of Balochistan and when you have researched for years and have years of experience in the field (i.e Balochistan) only then you are able to make a positive and unbiased consensus like Hamid mir or Najam Sethi, but they are fags to you just because they raise a voice for Balochistan opposing ISI and their kidnappings/military operation in Balochistan.
Everyone is a fag to you if they want Balochistan to be independent. Because you see, you have "feelings" and you play with your feelings. You are a "proud Pakistani". You want others to feel just like how you feel about Pakistan. you don't want Pakistan to break and will spurt out tons of crap against any Freedom movements whether it is terrorist organization or a non-voilent organization because it hurts your feelings as a Pakistani.
Every patriot behaves this way. There's nothing special about you.
Every patriot is butthurt when certain part of its country wants to break free.
Every patriot is emotional
Every patriot will do whatever it takes to persuade or brainwash others with bias or persuade others with information that are specifically targeted on keeping its country breakfree even if it's a horrible and an unjust country.
Nothing special about you or your views, every Pakistani holds this view.
This does not implies on me since I will go back to Balochistan sooner or later.
I can't believe you're comparing yourself to America. Same goes for you. America annexed this, america annexed that, I can't believe your comparing yourself to Americans, How dare you bit*h you compare yourself to Americans and when I compared ourselves to Palestinians your howling like a coy retard. Its completely fine for you to compare your nation to a Kafir nation like America and America's annexation on other nations But when it comes to me comparing ourselves to Palestinians I am a sheltered b*tch? Technically by giving examples of America's annexation on other nations and justifying it you are walking on America's footsteps and contradicting your own speech where you called others American puppets. Who's the real puppet here?
It's might be ok for your nation to Annex other people's land and claiming it there's but its not okay for us.
When are Palestinians not allowed to live in their land? They are allowed to live in their land as mentioned by the Israeli President as long as they don't violently target the Isrealis and as long as they respect their Jewish counterparts by not blowing bombs up or doing Jihad against them. But the Palestinians won't back away from their land. They are blowing bombs, throwing rocks, targetting Jewish people (rightfully) and killing Jews in Isreal and Palestine. And not backing away from their land coms with a price. The Jewish army open fires at the violence targetted at them. Palsetinians are allowed to live in their land as long as they are peaceful not involving any violent activities. They are allowed to live in their land since if they wouldn't have, they'd all be moved out of Palestine and banished. But are they? The Jewish army targets freedom fighters who want Palestine to be free from Isrealis. If the Balochis do the same thing. Meaning if Balochis do these massive violent activities against panjabis the same way as Palestinians are doing against Isrealis, I guarantee you the Pakistan army will build a giant wall to segregate all balochs from the rest of Porkistan and will do exact same thing as Isrealis. Guaranteed.
No, Because having a trade and travel embargo means Blocking Nato's safe passage in Afghanistan and Balochistan/Khyber interferring their safe routes because your Pakistani governement is a puppet of the United States it won't happen. Also having a trade and travel embargo in Balochistan would disrupt Panjabi Organizations investing in Balochistan and stealing their resources out of Balochistan. They will have a hard time stealing the resources if the there is a travel and trade embargo. Not to mention the travel & trade embargo will anger the Baloch even more and the desire to freedom will spread their hearts even more. Large protests will take place and the situation will go worse since Pakistan is full of other trouble, having openining another door of trouble would increase their trouble even more.
Just in case your pathetic mind fails to understand scenerios and fails to absorb recent news, Palestinians do have the right to vote. They just "don't" vote because it goes against them. The Israeli government ahs allowed them to vote but they won't even think about voting. Learn about Balochistan first you pathetic waste of space, have years of experience and knowledge, than make a consensus about what's right or what's wrong. Nothing but nonsense full of trashy bias comes from you.
This proves how Imbecile you are, I already wrote about the attrocities of Pak army on Balochistan but you didnt read it and ignored it because you are a secluded pussy.
Just whatever it takes to get rid of Panjabi rule.
We have no problem with the pashtuns, only panjabis. Your pathetic mind fails to understand it and me repeating it everytime just would make me look coy.
The problem with pashtun people is that they are religious instead of secular. Even if you pick all these pashtuns and put them into indonesia or turkey, they will call themselves proud Indonesians or proud turks, why? Because these countries are an islamic country. but we all know Pakistan isn't an Islamic country. Porkistan is a muslim country, but not an islamic country. Those pashtuns who go into the Napak army and kill their own people and Baloch with the help of ISI, i spit on them. They are not our brothers. Shame on them. Tuff.
Except those pashtun soldiers who are brainwashed to think that joning Pakistani army means Jihad and are brainwashed by Panjabis/Pakistanis to believe that whatever they are carrying out is fine. Except those, except those who have ill knowledge of them being pashtuns and what it means to be a pashtun and who panjabis (the ruling elite) and what Pakistan is.
KPK joined Pakistan by a referendum in July 1947 and Baluchistan(minus kalat) joined Pakistani with an agreement a few months later, and you can't deny that an agreement took place, after that everything was history and you're now Pakistani!
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That's exactly what I was saying before about your pathetic self. You haven't studied Balochistan history, they didn't agree to join Panjabistan, they were "forced" to join it. Kalat was forced as well. You clearly haven't studied history and you are pathetic enough to believe one peice of information you read on the internet without pondering whether the information that you are reading is correct or not. As I mentioned before you are a butthurt patriot nothing more.
Look at this nutjob forcing me to be Porkistani. LOOL.
1- You failed to answer my question when I asked you how BLA managed to beat the Pak army with helicopters and equipments when they are not even powerful enough to beat the Frontier Corps (FC)? How could they beat an army 10 times stronger than FC and be able to beat them but not the FC? If they would have wanted to send relief packages they would have done it in no time.
2- Where did you get this picture from? Show me the article please? For all I know this picture could be a picture of a random relief packages picture found on the internet with a fake caption, just to promote brainwashing and showing people what Pak army has done.
3- Look at this recent article published on dailytimes.pk where the article states about the shortage of food of the earthquake victims in Balochistan. Read the article where the article states that the victims were not given enough relief to even last for a few days.
Source: Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan
If the Pak army had given them relief they wouldn't have this shortage. 46% have no food at all while the other 45 have no more than a week of food stocks.
Read you filthy soul, read.
Save your comments on somebody who gives a shiit about your Porkistan.
Your Gallup pole is "termed" as a bias, unrelevant, unrealible poll. Don't believe me? Just do a quick search and you will see tons of articles exposing the Gallup reality not to mention the article that you sent was writing by a porki Ansar Abbasi, typical porki name.
Gallup pole recording 37% Balochis want Independence is ridiculous. Have you experienced the situation of Balochistan? Those who say Azad balochistan in streets of Quetta or anywhere in Balochistan are not seen the next day. The situation is so worse that there was a guy who had a flag of Balochistan in his cellphone and was kidnapped the other day because he lend his cellphone to his friend who happened to be a secret agent. The situation is so worse people dont want to open their mouths or else they will be kidnapped like their counterparts, their location would be unknown for months and years, will be whipped, mutilated, electricuted, set on fire and their dead bodies thrown in open pits of the city for the whole city to see. The situation is so worse, no one opens their mouth and those who would have said we want to be with Pakistan in the poll would have done it to prevent any trouble knocking their door.
What do you know? ask those tens and thousands of families who lost their young sons, whipped and their faces so extremely mutilated that even their parents couldn't recognize them. This is hidden from your news channel because they dont want you to know what goes on the other part of the nation, its all hidden. The situation is very bad, no one opens their mouths anymore. I do, its because I live in Canada. I have a right to, and I am free to do whatever I want. It was reported that almost Every single parent has lost at least 1 son in entire Turbat. Approximately 1900 Baloch were abducted since 2001, and that's just those who were abducted and brutally tortured and killed, numerous others who were killed in operations their heads chopped off, their bodies amputed, what do you know? Your just an insecure butthurt patriot who just wants to back Pakistan up for the sake of patriotism ignoring atrocities and massacre.
This shows you haven't experienced ANYTHING, you dont know ANYTHING about Balochistan, whatever you are doing, backing panjabistan like that is the sole reason that you are a patriot. And Every patriot is patriotic like you, their @ss is always butthurt whenever someone talks ill of their country, they always whine like pigs, they just can't tolerate it, Gosh how dare he talk about pakistan like that! How dare he insult my mighty Porkistan.
You don't know anything about Balochistan. You are not a historian, you are not a journalist, you haven't read anything nor have you experience anything for a LONGER period of time, you dont have grounds, you are a cold bit*h.
Panjabis = Indians.
Panjabis came from India, before Pakistan they were Indians. 60 years ago they were Indians and belong to indic stock. Period.
I am tlaking about Pakistani panjabis not Indian panjabis alright. Pakistani panjabis and Indian panjabis have no difference because they are same race and came from each others. They are indians. I know panjabis hahaha. I have seen panjabis.
It's not dumb. It's true. If you go to let's say America or Canada or U.K. they will ask your original place of Origin, even if you were born in Canada or a Canadian. Why do they call them "African Americans", why not just "Americans", is that dumb, racist and backward thinking too?
Indians born in America are called Indian americans, people will always question their original place/country of origin no matter what. Same goes for everyone around the world. That's how it works.
I wasn't bullied as a kid, but thousands have. My father wasn't persecuted but thousands of fathers were persecuted. My father wasn't beaten by Pak/killed by pak soldiers but hundreds and thousands of fathers were. My house wasn't stolen by Pak soldiers but tens and thousands houses were. And yes I was forced to live in poverty by the government. Do you seriously know the amount of natural resources that were and are stolen by the Panjabians? Do you Honestly know? Balochistan is the poorest province among all Panjabistan. A province so RICH yet so POOR? Why? Because its not given its right and its natural resources are abused and violated by incomming panjabi intruders. And Its ridiculous implying me as a person and ignoring the tons of Baloch/Pashtuns go ask them one by one they will tell you, they have hundreds of stories more than me why they hate Pakistanis or Panjabistanis. My people were subjected to violence that's why have a grudge against panjacki daalkhoras. They should be wiped off and our once independent country should be given back to us.
White wannabe? So everyone that opposes the word Desi is a white wannabe? What a great formula. I tuff on your desi people, Tuff Tuff Tuff.
Republic of Shiit-istan should be wiped off.
Sorry to burst my bubble, when did I say other people don't have history? It's just that other people living in Pakistan were never undependent before in History except for Balochistan (Including Sistan-va-Balochistan). And for your kind information, Sindhis do want a Sindhu-desh despite that fact that they were never independent in history. There are large amount of speratist sindhis that wanted Sindh to be independent. Altaf Hussain wanted to break Karachi away from Pakistan. But not just that, some sindhis do actually want an independent Sindhu desh, just google sindhu desh. They also have a Sindhu-desh flag already made just in case. They will play their game too just like Bengalis. Not to mention the Bengalis hated the Panjabi rule so much that they seperated, they faced daily mockery and persecution and eventually broke free. Pashtuns? Even Pashtuns want an independent Pashtunistan, they already have a flag too, there is a significant population of Pashtuns in Afghanistan who want loy Afghanistan and as well as in Khyber Pakhtunkwa that want a Pashtun only state called "Pashtunistan" free from panjabi and outside rule. Even though these people never had an independent country in history, they still want to be independent because the crude smell of Panjabi chaudhry fart drives everyone away. A significant population of Kashmirs also want an independent Kashmir, you may want to be with Pakistan but there are tons of your counterpart "kashmiris" who want an independent Kashmir free from Pakistani or Indian rule. Muhajirs are the only people that don't want indepedence since they are poor people who escaped India to inhabit Pakistan to have a better life and are also subjects of mockery by the Panjabi people. I don't blame them. They are nice.
Panjabis don't want an independent Panjab because they already have an independent country called Panjabistan/Pakistan. They rule Pakistan, they started Pakistan and the rest of the land that they have is occupied or annexed land (except Sindh) of different ethnic groups of people.
Indic stock or Indic race is a word used to describe people originally originating from India.
I don't wax my eyebrows don't change subjects. Yeah sure I am owned, says the immature imbecile ignorant creature that there are/were no military operations in Balochistan ever.
Great conclusion about Baloch being bi-sexual. With the same conclusion you would also say that majority of pashtun people are bi-sexual/gay as well. Makes me wonder how accurate your predisposed courtesy is. Great job.It's been proven that those two journalist receive funding from RAW and the CIA, they're sell outs and traitors.So even if a Pakistani Journalist for example like Najam Sethi or Hamid Mir oppose the Pakistani rule of Balochistan and give them the right to Independence, they are automatically fags? Or American puppets.
Haha true, but those aren't my words, according to Ahmer Mustikhan a Baloch separatist living in America, the majority of Baloch men are bi sexual, and he's know's more about Baloch culture than I do, so i'll take his word.Everyone is a fag to you if they want Balochistan to be independent.
Not true, it's the other way around, the IDF is killing Palestinians(both Muslim and Christian), so they're retaliating, you can't compare the situation in Palestine and the one in Baluchistan, they aren't the same, nothing about the situation in Baluchistan is similar to the situation in Palestine at all.They are blowing bombs, throwing rocks, targetting Jewish people (rightfully) and killing Jews in Isreal and Palestine. And not backing away from their land coms with a price.
Yes it is racist and backward, you don't see white people stating their "country of origin" even though their ancestors came on a boat from Europe, cause they're seen as "normal" and "default", but that's a different subject I don't want to get into.It's not dumb. It's true. If you go to let's say America or Canada or U.K. they will ask your original place of Origin, even if you were born in Canada or a Canadian. Why do they call them "African Americans", why not just "Americans", is that dumb, racist and backward thinking too?
Was there ever a trade and travel embargo on Baluchistan before 9/11?I'm sure there wasn't.No, Because having a trade and travel embargo means Blocking Nato's safe passage in Afghanistan and Balochistan/Khyber interferring their safe routes because your Pakistani governement is a puppet of the United States it won't happen.
How is the rest of Pakistan stealing Baluchistan's resources?The only resource being extracted from Baluchistan is natural gas from Sui, and that is supplied to all over Pakistan, and the people and businesses of Pakistan pay a bill, then whatever money Sui Gas corp gets, they pay a royalty to the Baluchistan provincial government, but that government is corrupt and so is Sui gas corp.Also having a trade and travel embargo in Balochistan would disrupt Panjabi Organizations investing in Balochistan and stealing their resources out of Balochistan.
Baluchistan is now running out of natural gas and that's why Pakistan has to import gas from Iran.
The Baluchistan government receives the most amount of money from the Federal Government than any province, proportionally.
They give those funds to your Sardars for development, but then your Sardars keep them in offshore bank accounts.
You're wrong about Baluch history, you didn't say anything about this infographic:That's exactly what I was saying before about your pathetic self. You haven't studied Balochistan history, they didn't agree to join Panjabistan, they were "forced" to join it.
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Apart from Kalat no other part of Baluchistan was forced to join, and Pakistan bought Gwadar from Oman.
No matter what you say it won't change the fact that fascists like Brahamdag and Hybyar Marri want to make Baluchistan a Baluch-only province, they've stated that many times, no matter how much you profess you homoerotic love for Pashtuns, it won't change the fact that your terrorist brethren want to exterminate them.We have no problem with the pashtuns, only panjabis.
I never said that the BLA beat Pakistani troops, all I said was that they tried to sabotage the army's relief effort after the earthquake, they also stole and destroyed many supplies, from ordinary Baluchis.1- You failed to answer my question when I asked you how BLA managed to beat the Pak army with helicopters and equipments when they are not even powerful enough to beat the Frontier Corps (FC)? How could they beat an army 10 times stronger than FC and be able to beat them but not the FC? If they would have wanted to send relief packages they would have done it in no time.
The BLA uses IEDs, they plant them everywhere, one in awhile they go off killing people.
Rebels threaten aid efforts as Pakistan quake death toll reaches 357 - latimes.com
That's the LA times^, not any Pakistani site.
That picture is from APP(Associated Press of Pakistan) and they most likely got the pic from ISPR.2- Where did you get this picture from? Show me the article please? For all I know this picture could be a picture of a random relief packages picture found on the internet with a fake caption, just to promote brainwashing and showing people what Pak army has done.
That's cause Pakistan is a third world country, there are obviously going to be food shortages, there were shortages during the Kashmir Earthquake, and floods in Punjab and Sindh.3- Look at this recent article published on dailytimes.pk where the article states about the shortage of food of the earthquake victims in Balochistan. Read the article where the article states that the victims were not given enough relief to even last for a few days.
Gallup is trusted all over the world, if this poll stated 63% of Baluchis wanted independence you would have believed it right away, now you're whining that it isn't your way, Gallup is based in America, they will obviously be anti-Pakistan, and they benefit from breaking Pakistan up, but they tried their best they still couldn't skew the percentage of separatists above the 50% threshold.Your Gallup pole is "termed" as a bias, unrelevant, unrealible poll. Don't believe me? Just do a quick search and you will see tons of articles exposing the Gallup reality not to mention the article that you sent was writing by a porki Ansar Abbasi, typical porki name.
The article was written by Ansar Abassi, but that isn't the only news site that published that poll.
So you never suffered any abuse, nor have your parents been persecuted, nor do you know anybody that has been discriminated against or persecuted by the Pak army but you hear these stuff on the news and the internet, so you believe them cause you have a victim mentality and that appeases you.wasn't bullied as a kid, but thousands have. My father wasn't persecuted but thousands of fathers were persecuted. My father wasn't beaten by Pak/killed by pak soldiers but hundreds and thousands of fathers were. My house wasn't stolen by Pak soldiers but tens and thousands houses were. And yes I was forced to live in poverty by the government. Do you seriously know the amount of natural resources that were and are stolen by the Panjabians? Do you Honestly know? Balochistan is the poorest province among all Panjabistan. A province so RICH yet so POOR? Why? Because its not given its right and its natural resources are abused and violated by incomming panjabi intruders. And Its ridiculous implying me as a person and ignoring the tons of Baloch/Pashtuns go ask them one by one they will tell you, they have hundreds of stories more than me why they hate Pakistanis or Panjabistanis. My people were subjected to violence that's why have a grudge against panjacki daalkhoras. They should be wiped off and our once independent country should be given back to us.
You have never had a bad experience while living in Pakistan, but you think you had?Or you heard some troll on the internet talk about "evil Daalkhors"
killing your people?
Sindhudesh movement is almost non-existent, most Sindhis especially the Urban ones are pro-Pakistan, many of my Sindhi friends voted for PTI not PPP because they no longer care about ethnic differences, but the rural people that are illiterate ended voting for their tribe/ethnicity, but PPP is also pro-Pakistan.Sindhis do want a Sindhu-desh despite that fact that they were never independent in history. There are large amount of speratist sindhis that wanted Sindh to be independent. Altaf Hussain wanted to break Karachi away from Pakistan. But not just that, some sindhis do actually want an independent Sindhu desh, just google sindhu desh. They also have a Sindhu-desh flag already made just in case.
Altaf Hussain doesn't speak speak for all Muhajirs, most Muhajirs also voted for PTI in the recent elections, but the MQM rigged it.
There are small movements for separation in almost every country, but they are usually too small to be deemed a threat.
The majority of Kashmir is under Indian occupation, so our #1 priority is get freedom from the Indians, as far as Pakistan is concerned, without Pakistan support Kashmir will never give independence, so a strong Pakistan is in Kashmir's interests.A significant population of Kashmirs also want an independent Kashmir, you may want to be with Pakistan but there are tons of your counterpart "kashmiris" who want an independent Kashmir free from Pakistani or Indian rule.
The Pakistan part of Kashmir is divided in to two parts AJK and Gilgit-Baltistan, the people in AJK are pro-Pakistan and support the army cause they want a free Kashmir from India, the people in Gilgit-Baltistan are also pro-Pakistan and really patriotic, and want to stay with Pakistan.
The people in AJK are getting a bit frustrated now from the Pakistan army, cause they haven't done anything since Kargil, that's why 43% of Kashmiris in Pakistan want independence, but they're still a minority.
Then there are people in the kashmiri diaspora like me, and all we want is freedom from India, and thereafter it doesn't matter if Kashmir becomes independent or becomes Pakistan's 5th province."If you're not ready to die for it, put the word 'freedom' out of your vocabulary." -Malcolm X
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Your argument is a fail because if Hamid mir was considered a RAW agent or a traitor he wouldn't be running around and anchoring Pakistnai talk shows which are controlled by the ISI and monitored. Hamid mir has good points about Balochistan and should be worth listening, you should look at his points and note his arguments instead of calling him a RAW agent or a traitor. Showing proof and arguing with solid proof does NOT make you are traitor. Everything requires proof, he shows proof before he talks. Same goes with Najam Sethi. Anyone showing solid proof about Balochistan and it's situation is a traitor or an agent. Great formula.It's been proven that those two journalist receive funding from RAW and the CIA, they're sell outs and traitors.
How is that racist? It's simply a classification. To classify a Black american, you would call him an African American because he indeed, meaning his ancestors indeed came from the pits of Africa and its not racist to call him an African since he's black and his ancestors came form Africa. It's not racist at all to call a black person, a black person because he is a black person. That's why everyone calls them African Americans because it's not racist at all.Yes it is racist and backward, you don't see white people stating their "country of origin" even though their ancestors came on a boat from Europe, cause they're seen as "normal" and "default", but that's a different subject I don't want to get into.
Not true about "normal" and "default". The Quebecois of Canada consider themselves "French" instead of Canadian. They speak french language and they indeed came from France. Europeans comming and immigrating to Ameirca are not called Americans either and are called immigrants. So for say, if an Irish dude immigrates to America, he would be called an Irish American. And Irish people do look different than Americans, you can classify them, you can also classify Russians even though they are white, polish people and german people, czech people, just by looking at their facial structure, nose, lips, eyes, etc.
Why would there be? Why would Pakistan open a new door of trouble for no reason? No one wants to go and look for trouble for no damn reason, it's stupid for a person and would be classified an idiot or mentally retarded if he goes around and wrestles a bear telling people its a fun thing to do. That's stupid.Was there ever a trade and travel embargo on Baluchistan before 9/11?I'm sure there wasn't.
The reason Isreal established a trade and embargo is because Palestinians are not backing away from their land and they are doing rightfully Jihad against them on a daily basis. I told you before If the Balochis do the same thing. Meaning if Balochis do these massive violent activities against panjabis the same way as Palestinians are doing against Isrealis, I guarantee you the Pakistan army will build a giant wall to segregate all balochs from the rest of Porkistan and will do exact same thing as Isrealis. Guaranteed. Travel and trage embargo will happen just a few days later, guaranteed.
That's exactly why I told you to read a book. You are an idiot for saying that. That's why I told you to go invest in a book, books have more knowledge. They will tell you how rich Balochistan is and what kind of treasure it holds and how every single day rich minerals and expensive resources are taken away from Balochistan and are invested and put in Panjab. Why is Balochistan so poor, its population so poor, they have no proper schools, no where to sit or even homes or roof above their heads dispite living under diamonds and rubies? Simply because there are tons of secret mines and resources which are dug from Balochistan without the public's eye and are being given to Punjab. This is zulm.How is the rest of Pakistan stealing Baluchistan's resources?The only resource being extracted from Baluchistan is natural gas from Sui, and that is supplied to all over Pakistan, and the people and businesses of Pakistan pay a bill, then whatever money Sui Gas corp gets, they pay a royalty to the Baluchistan provincial government, but that government is corrupt and so is Sui gas corp.
Panjabis pay a bill? Forget bill, yesterday my aunt told me that since the new government has started Nwaz Sharef has extracted electricity from Balochistan and has powered Punjab. There is no electricity in Balochistan how it once was because he took all the electricity and now powers Punjab. Can you believe this? This is zulm. Our resources are spent on other daalkhor provinces and our own plates are empty. How on earth, who gives him the right to take our electricity, make us suffer with no light and them with loads of electricity? This is just one thing, sui gas, minerals, resources and development in other daalkhor provinces is another factor which will take loads of time to elaborate on.
My ass. Please take your bullsh*t somewhere else.The Baluchistan government receives the most amount of money from the Federal Government than any province, proportionally.
This picture is made by a Paki dude expert in Photoshop. I'll make tons of. Pictures don't provide relavance because pictures are made in 10 minutes while books take years to write and are researched. Books have REAL relevance. Switch to books, I guarantee you, you will change your perspective.
Stop comparing a picture to an actual book.Gallup is trusted all over the wright away, now you're whining that it isn't your way, Gallup is based in America, they will obviously be anti-Pakistan, and they benefit from breaking Pakistan up, but they tried their best they still couldn't skew the percentage of separatists above the 50% threshold.orld, if this poll stated 63% of Baluchis wanted independence you would have believed it
The article was written by Ansar Abassi, but that isn't the only news site that published that poll.
I already told you the reason behind that fake 63% bullsh*t. And I also told you that no one opens their mouths in Balochistan anymore. If someone says Azad Balochistan, they kidnap them and brutally torture them, and throw their bodies on roads so everyone can see and get a lesson. The pull is unfair. The situation is worse in Balochistan and even I would have said that I want to stay with Pakistan in Balochistan if a poll dude came to be asking whether or not you want it. You clearly don't know the situation I already wrote about it.
So you never suffered any abuse, nor have your parents been persecuted, nor do you know anybody that has been discriminated against or persecuted by the Pak army but you hear these stuff on the news and the internet, so you believe them cause you have a victim mentality and that appeases you.
Man you are really ridiculous and a pathetic soul. I dont blieve stories on the internet saying Pak army kills Baloch people or Pashtuns. Nor do I hear these stories from people that claim that they are torturing them. THIS IS A FACT. You clearly haven't experienced Balochistan much. They are REALLY abducting, you know what, screw you, you don't even believe me when I say they are kidnapping people, torturing them, doing military operations, wow lol, I don't wanna argue with you anymore, you are really misinformed. You also said there weren't ANY military operations in Balochistan. You are really ridiculous, please get a checkup. Sorry you have a pathetic illiterate mind when you talk about Balochistan. You lack millions of brain cells. So don't bother talking about Balochistan when you don't know shiit.You have never had a bad experience while living in Pakistan, but you think you had?Or you heard some troll on the internet talk about "evil Daalkhors"
killing your people?
But it's still existent. You said they don't want independent Sindh. They do if gotten the chance.Sindhudesh movement is almost non-existent, most Sindhis especially the Urban ones are pro-Pakistan, many of my Sindhi friends voted for PTI not PPP because they no longer care about ethnic differences, but the rural people that are illiterate ended voting for their tribe/ethnicity, but PPP is also pro-Pakistan.
Altaf Hussain doesn't speak speak for all Muhajirs, most Muhajirs also voted for PTI in the recent elections, but the MQM rigged it.
There are small movements for separation in almost every country, but they are usually too small to be deemed a threat.
Still there are 43% Kashmiris that want ONLY independence, half of your people dont want to be with Pakistan/Panjabis. And if gotten the chance, I guarantee you, You would want an Independent Strong Kashmir for only Kashmiri people to inhabit and rule. I guarantee you will want to be a Kashmiri and an indepedent Kashmir. 43% of Kashmiris want independence, just think about that. Screw Porkistan. Don't ever join it and pay the price with daalkhor Panjabis I tell you.The majority of Kashmir is under Indian occupation, so our #1 priority is get freedom from the Indians, as far as Pakistan is concerned, without Pakistan support Kashmir will never give independence, so a strong Pakistan is in Kashmir's interests.
The Pakistan part of Kashmir is divided in to two parts AJK and Gilgit-Baltistan, the people in AJK are pro-Pakistan and support the army cause they want a free Kashmir from India, the people in Gilgit-Baltistan are also pro-Pakistan and really patriotic, and want to stay with Pakistan.
The people in AJK are getting a bit frustrated now from the Pakistan army, cause they haven't done anything since Kargil, that's why 43% of Kashmiris in Pakistan want independence, but they're still a minority.
Then there are people in the kashmiri diaspora like me, and all we want is freedom from India, and thereafter it doesn't matter if Kashmir becomes independent or becomes Pakistan's 5th province.Last edited by M17ArnoBaloch; 10-27-2013, 04:58 PM.جی وا ترا بلوچ ، ذندان بلوچ ، کلو واتنییے
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LOL that shows the level of psychoness among some members here... when it comes to Pakistan or Punjabis. Too funny. Outstanding imaginations btw.Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View PostHe didn't say anything about killing Balochis, just that every child will fight to keep Balochistan as part of Pakistan.
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