THIS ruining pashtuns????

[king-zazai]

its a sad reality to say this but its true that THIS so called entertainment is ruining our pashtuns and our minds of human beings

as Muslims yes this is haram like what a big waist of life for example: you get on a bus 30min bus ride you put on your mp3 when you reach home....then...?....then what NOTHING! you get nothing out of this expect slow mental brainwashing walllahi its sad to say how addicting this music is and how much a waist of life this is...

as for ruining AFG i believe it is WHY because you make income from haram (selling cd's concerts so and so) you waist your nights on this songs and dancsing and stuff...

so for your own sake and Afghanistan sake and your here after lets not listen or spread this corrupt music...

[kakargirl]

its a sad reality to say this but its true that THIS so called entertainment is ruining our pashtuns and our minds of human beings

as Muslims yes this is haram like what a big waist of life for example: you get on a bus 30min bus ride you put on your mp3 when you reach home....then...?....then what NOTHING! you get nothing out of this expect slow mental brainwashing walllahi its sad to say how addicting this music is and how much a waist of life this is...

as for ruining AFG i believe it is WHY because you make income from haram (selling cd's concerts so and so) you waist your nights on this songs and dancsing and stuff...

so for your own sake and Afghanistan sake and your here after lets not listen or spread this corrupt music...

true wror may allah swt give us the strength , to follow islam like it should be followed .

[Michin Khel]

The chronicles of King-zazai the great

[Manzareh]

i say blame it on

[Pakhtunzai]

^Music is harram whether we like it or not, King Zazai is right. Even though I listen to it sometimes I shouldn't. I'm trying to stop inshallah..

Islam isn't pick and mix where we choose not to follow one thing and follow the other...But nobodys perfect, keep striving my brothers and sisters..

[graveyardofempires]

music is haram ,true!

but what we are facing is like this : when someone is on death bed and is about to die you shouldnt tell him "kalima we waywa,kalima wewaywa" cuz he might just say something which may be the opposite.

right now there is alot of music and by saying "music is haram ,stop it" people will only get defensive and might defend music.

so instead of condemning people for listening music its better to explain to them with love and try to give them an alternative.

[graveyardofempires]

can you give me any proof that music is haram from Quran and sunnah? how can music which promotes love, virtue, good morals and convey basic human feelings and emotions be haram?

note: I am talking about music alone, in its purest form, not mixed with foul poetry or lyrics and no dancing and drugs. don't give me the example of bollywoo, western music and other types of obvious haram music examples. we all know thats haram.

wrora
its not so much about the lyrics as it is about the sounds.
offcourse there are some things which are permisable.

in this video Sediq Afghan explains it a bit
YouTube - EXCLUSIVE VIDEO! sedique afghan refutes "sufi intellectual" 2010 (HD)

[graveyardofempires]

^

thats really irrelevant, he doesn't talk about music being haram, and he is wrong to say maulana brought dancing to islam, dancing or hadra was there since the time of sahabas, he is really confused. i don't doubt he is good at maths but this is not his forte, he is not a scholar.

ok
you just dont want to know i guess.

i admit i listen to music as well and just cuz i listen to it doesnt make it permissable.


he did say about music and yes mawlana brought dancing and made it part of religion to get "closer to god".

[*Mahzala*]

wrora
its not so much about the lyrics as it is about the sounds.

Most sounds in music are inspired by that which comes from nature, and most of its wording is inspired or created to either celebrate that nature or destruct it. It's words that have an impact on our lives, not sounds.

[Fahd]

ok first of all music is haram ? yes

Hazrath Anas (R.A.) reports that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) said: “There will certainly be people from my Ummah who will attempt to legalize fornication, the wearing of silk (for males), the consuming of wine and the use of musical instruments” (Al-Jaamius Sagheer - Pg. 139). Indeed this prophesy of Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) is glaring before us. Despite the clear prohibition of the use of musical instruments, great efforts are being made to “legalize” their use. While some people wish to declare all music permissible, others are opening the door slowly by declaring that only the use of the “duff” is permissible. Thus it is necessary to examine the reality of these claims in the light of the Qur’an and Sunnah.

In Surah Luqman Allah Ta’ala declares:

“And among the people are those who purchase idle talk in order to mislead others from the path of Allah in ignorance.”

Hazrath Abdullah bin Masood (R.A.) states emphatically that this verse was revealed regarding singing and musical instruments. The same has been reported from Hazrath Abdullah bin Abbas (R.A.) and Hazrath Jaabir (R.A.) (Tafseer Qurtubi). Thus when these illustrious students of Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam), who witnessed the revelation of the aayaat (verses) of the Qur’an are clear that this verse prohibits music and musical instruments, the “view” of any twentieth century “scholar” to the contrary holds no weight.


BLOCK OUT SOUND
Various Ahadith also clearly prohibit music and the use of musical instruments. Hazrath Abdullah bin Umar (R.A.) reports that once Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) heard the sound of the flute of a shepherd. He immediately placed his fingers into his ears (to block out the sound) (Musnad Ahmad). How tragic it is that our beloved Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) blocks his ears to the sound of music but his Ummah opens their ears wide to the same sounds. In another narration Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) is reported to have said: “ Verily Allah Ta’ala has sent me as a guidance and as a mercy to the Believers and He has commanded me to destroy musical instruments” (Musnad Ahmad).


DUFF
As for the duff, it is also a musical instrument and therefore it will primarily be included in the above prohibition. However, some concession was given for the use of the duff on the occasion of a Nikah. The Sahaaba (R.A.), who were the direct students of Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) understood the commands of the Qur’an and Hadith far better than we can ever hope to understand. It is reported regarding Hazrath Umar (R.A.) that if he heard the sound of a duff he would immediately send somebody to investigate. If it was found to be the occasion of a Walima, he would not do anything. Otherwise he would go for his whip (i.e. he would forcefully stop the playing of the duff) (Fathul Qadeer - Vol. 6, Pg. 389).


EXTRACTING LAWS
Nevertheless, to extract the laws of Shariah directly from the Qur’an and Sunnah is possible only for one who is a mujtahid [in the calibre of the four great Imaams viz. Imaam Abu Hanifa (R.A.), Imaam Malik (R.A.), Imaam Shaafi (R.A.) and Imaam Ahmad bin Hambal (R.A.)]. Together with an expert in-depth knowledge of the Qur’an and hundreds of thousands of Ahadith, they had also mastered all the numerous sciences pertaining to the Qur’an and Sunnah.
According to the Zaahirur Riwayah (the most authentic narrations) of the Hanafi school of thought, the use of the duff is completely disallowed. Latter day scholars who have attributed a restricted permissibility to the Hanafi school have erred. This complete disallowal is based on the Juristic principle of “saddan lil baab” i.e. to restrict an act that would invariably lead to impermissible actions.
The Shafi’ee Ulama have permitted the use of the duff only on the occasion of a walima subject to several conditions. Allamah Ibn Hajar Makki, Shafi’ee has detailed the various conditions, among which is that the duff should not be beaten in a manner that produces a musical sound, but rather just a simple beating which does not produce any tune or melody. Only the palms may be used to beat the duff and not the fingers. It should also be beaten only for a short while. Having stated this he says that “in our era it is makrooh to beat the duff” (since people cannot fulfil the stringent conditions).
Therefore in the light of the above one should not listen to such nazams which are accompanied by the playing of the duff.


BACKGROUND ZIKR As for the “background zikr,” this should be considered very carefully. What is the purpose of having people say “Allah” in unison in the background? Is it for the purpose of zikr itself? If yes, then why in the background? If the purpose is to create a background effect to make the nazam more entertaining, in the manner that background music is used, this is an extremely dangerous thing. It is abuse of the name of Allah Ta’ala. The name of Allah Ta’ala is not for the purpose of entertainment. If it has been deliberately made to resemble the beating of drums, it will be even more serious and even dangerous for one’s Imaan. One should totally refrain from listening to such nazams.

i think its clear that music is haram and any one say its not he's blind !!
and again i do listen to music most of the time but yes its haram and damn i cant stop listening to music :p

[king-zazai]

can you give me any proof that music is haram from Quran and sunnah? how can music which promotes love, virtue, good morals and convey basic human feelings and emotions be haram?

note: I am talking about music alone, in its purest form, not mixed with foul poetry or lyrics and no dancing and drugs. don't give me the example of bollywoo, western music and other types of obvious haram music examples. we all know thats haram.

yes there are MANY proofs regaring music as haram even in the quran i dont no how much knowledge you have but a muslim must have the most upright respect and take the sahabas as heroes and here are some proofs...

But there are, among men, those who purchase idle tales, without knowledge (or meaning), to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah and throw ridicule (on the Path): for such there will be a humiliating Penalty." [31:6]
Ibn Abbas (radhi Allahu anh) said idle tales in this verse "lahu al hadith" is evil and music.

Mujahid (rahimahu Allah) said idle tales in this verse "lahu al hadith" was the drum.

Hassan AlBasri said this verse was revealed about music and musical instruments. Alsady included in this evil talk and musical instruments.

Ibn al Qayyim (rahimahu Allah) said, "The interpretation of the sahabah (companions) and Tabi3een (their followers) of idle tales in this verse "lahu al hadith" is sufficient in that it means music.

Abu Alsahbaa' said I asked Ibn Masoood about Allah's verse. He said, "Wallahi the one and only one its music - repeating it three times." (this is authentic in being attributed to Ibn Masood and Ibn Abbas)

Ibn Umar (radhi Allahu anh) also said it means Music.

Therefore, if you take time to observe around you you will see that music is a path to adultery and fornication. It plants the seed of hypocrisy, the seed of polytheism. When people turn to music, like it and get addicted to it, it becomes the alcohol of the mind. One turns away from the Qur'an more than anything else once their hearts become addicted to music.

Allah says, "..for such there will be a humiliating Penalty ." for those who replaces the Qur'an with idle tales.


there are many other proofs to i will post on a diffrent thread inshaallah read that link ok