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Lol My family is very conservative so any type of dancing, including attan is kind of discouraged.Originally posted by Kaushika
majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.
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Is the Khattak dance (the one with swords) truly a traditional attan? It looks like a choreographed performance dance to me, unlike other attans which are much more natural and spontaneous.Originally posted by salman47 View PostHave you seen Khattak attan? Klashinkov attan?Last edited by maneatinglizard; 10-03-2017, 01:08 AM.
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Forgot to mention this before, but Zinzeer is spelled ځنځير in Pashto. So depending on your dialect you may pronounce it "dzandzeer" instead.Originally posted by Traveller View PostI know that. But what does Zanzeeri mean? Some people in the comments were saying that it meant chains and that the song was talk about a woman who couldn't reach her lover. The song in general makes sense but I couldn't understand the line after "khat me zanzeeri"
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Dunno, to me it looks like a very old atan not practiced anymore because swords became old-fashioned. You can say it is from 'Pashtun Culture Museum'.Originally posted by maneatinglizard View PostIs the Khattak dance (the one with swords) truly a traditional attan? It looks like a choreographed performance dance to me, unlike other attans which are much more natural and spontaneous.
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Lol. Don't you know that Pakistani shalwar kameez is our khat partug. Pakistanis adopted itvfrom Afghans(Pashtuns). Indians wore dhoti instead of partug (shalwar) before Afghans introduced the kurta khat and shalwar.Originally posted by Traveller View PostI've always been curious about those dresses. The women in my family never wear them(I can't think of a time where I've seen anyone from my family wearing one) them and instead wear Pakistani designer clothes. It seems to me that the tradition has largely died out among many Pakistani Pashtun women(which is a shame because I think they look really elegant). Afghans still frequently wear them.You are from Pishin, right? It seems it might be more common in your area as you know a lot about this stuff.
Also what exactly is the Pashtun bridal dress? In our family women wear the red dress other Pakistanis wear.
Elderly women in our village and other villages still wear them. Also taraki/kochaan wear them as well.
Bridal dress of Pashtuns is the same same dress kochaan/taraki women wear, with more embroidery on it. Pashtuns our side don't stick to one custom. The bridal dress is a matter of preference now. So it's upto the family or bride herself whether she wants te wear Pashtun bridal dress or some Pakistani bridal dress or even a white gown on her wedding.If you talk to a man in a language he understands, that goes to his head. If you talk to him in his language, that goes to his heart.
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Khattak dance (the one with swords) is not Khattak "Attan", the latter is like traditional Attan. The other varieties of dances of Khattaks, as told to me by Khattaks themselves , are balbala, shadola,tamseeli dana, qamar balbala etcOriginally posted by maneatinglizard View PostIs the Khattak dance (the one with swords) truly a traditional attan? It looks like a choreographed performance dance to me, unlike other attans which are much more natural and spontaneous.
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The Afghanistani girls in the western countries doing Attan in the manner of men , is amusing to watch. They should be educated that its not how Pashtun females do attan on weddings back in native areas. They cant vigorously spin and jump around like men, there has to be feminine grace to it. It should be done in the style shown in the following video ;
Hazar buz are Mohmands from Nangarhar, they are traders. But with the same style female Attan is performed in my area, much distant from Ningarhar so i am sure thats how its done throughout Pakhtunkhwa.Last edited by Samandri; 10-11-2017, 08:01 AM.
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I’ve seen women preform attan in different styles. The wanna-be transvestite attan of Western women is as you said, a male version of the dance. Women in traditional Pashtun environment don’t dance like that.Originally posted by Samandri View PostThe Afghanistani girls in the western countries doing Attan in the manner of men , is amusing to watch. They should be educated that its not how Pashtun females do attan on weddings back in native areas. They cant vigorously spin and jump around like men, there has to be feminine grace to it. It should be done in the style shown in the following video ;
Hazar buz are Mohmands from Nangarhar, they are traders. But with the same style female Attan is performed in my area, much distant from Ningarhar so i am sure thats how its done throughout Pakhtunkhwa.
But there are some traditional styles of attan where the women do the same moves as men do.Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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Attan use to a part of Pashtun culture and identity when Pashtuns use to be a proud martial people.
We are now subdued and humiliated and that’s why our cultural expressions are also vulgar and perverted.
The homo-fagget dancing you see now in weddings reveals how we are no longer a proud and self respecting community. We have reduced ourselves to nothing but shallow and characterless people who have no substance and no values.Originally posted by FirdousiNever talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.
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thats a really nice attan i love it..Originally posted by Samandri View PostThe Afghanistani girls in the western countries doing Attan in the manner of men , is amusing to watch. They should be educated that its not how Pashtun females do attan on weddings back in native areas. They cant vigorously spin and jump around like men, there has to be feminine grace to it. It should be done in the style shown in the following video ;
Hazar buz are Mohmands from Nangarhar, they are traders. But with the same style female Attan is performed in my area, much distant from Ningarhar so i am sure thats how its done throughout Pakhtunkhwa.
..and also lol at the fights in the comments....
...and the song is hilarious in a good way "kena pa datson ke che de yosam khpal watan ta" LOL!Last edited by kunatawar; 10-11-2017, 02:02 PM.
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The big guy with kandahari cap is very talented and every step of him match’s with the rhythm. Never seen a better performance than this one.
afghan best attan 2011 pak (lahore) - YouTube
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"The past is not my concern. The future is no longer my concern either. One minute. One minute of everything at once. And anything before is nothing. Everything after nothing. Nothing in comparison to that one minute."
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but in the song the girl is holding it to lessen heaviness of dowra.
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