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treu carya sher you'e given me a ood idea i think now when my father comes il do , sit and talk with him take notes too make a memo yeah lol i wont abbreviate lol you often forget what the abreviatiaion i will do this you've give me a excellent idea catya sher thank you my father is a walking talking history lol when i was a kid lol anything i needed to know oh il go from school and ask my father lol