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Default 04-14-2012, 09:59 PM

should we tell him?
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Default 04-14-2012, 10:09 PM

do it



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non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.
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Default 04-14-2012, 10:16 PM

lol, no. i prefer to see him floundering. it is too entertaining ;-) after all, he is my pet remora, the 'sucker fish'.
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Default 04-15-2012, 12:02 AM

technically speaking dying like this makes a muslim a shaheed. Ina lil lahi wa ilihi rajioon
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technically speaking dying like this makes a muslim a shaheed.
The reward of martyrdom is contingent upon proper belief, sincerity, perseverance and thankfulness to Allah SWT.

Just like the South-East Asian tsunami didn't made hundred of thousands of Shaheeds.

Also, that doesn't erase the suffering of their mothers, fathers, wives and kids...



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Default 04-15-2012, 12:30 AM

i don't believe that every paki soldier has the mindset of killing innocents and enslaving unwilling populations. that distinction is reserved for the generals and politicians. most are simpletons who enlisted for money to support their families and have probably never seen combat in their lives. they should know better than to join a corrupt institution, but i don't take pleasure in their deaths.


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i don't believe that every paki soldier has the mindset of killing innocents and enslaving unwilling populations. that distinction is reserved for the generals and politicians. most are simpletons who enlisted for money to support their families and have probably never seen combat in their lives. they should know better than to join a corrupt institution, but i don't take pleasure in their deaths.
neither do I take pleasure in those deaths, my friend

however, I do believe that this is a sign

not for them, since they're dead, but for us and those around them

if you feel like ignoring it, then just do it

I do believe that everything happens for a reason

and I do believe that it happened for a reason

now just imagine if it's actually a sign and you ignored it


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wut ?

And the black people living in the USA who were given education and can read, why do they act infinitely worse than completely illiterate Senegalese people in Africa ?

And my people who live in mountains, why didn't they sided with the French and Spaniards against other muslim Arabs ?

And why don't the pagans Aborigines in Australia burn women's faces with acid ?

And the righteous people who lived before Jesus Christ (pbuh) was born and were way more illetrate than any Pakistani in 2012, why didn't they act the same way ?

Allah SWT punishes the people who disobeyed to Him and it's clear that Pakistan is one of the worse country in the world because of this.

It comes from the lack of Islam, not the lack of literacy. If you don't believe that Islam can cure these things, then it's clear that you have no faith in your religion. And don't tell me that they are ignorant in matters of religion. They know perfectly what Islam teaches but their heart rejects it.

There are many good muslims in Pakistan but there are also the worst traitors I've ever seen, even worse than Saudi Royal Family.
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Default 04-15-2012, 02:23 AM

lol Hanif al-Arab-in-denial...

These men were from the Northern Light Infantry, which means they were overwhelmingly recruited from Gilgit and Baltistan. Most of the people from that region are Shi'ite and Ismaili. So maybe they were punished for being Shi'ite?

Secondly, why would God punish the poorest and the most wretched of Pakistanis, most of whom have nothing to do with policy-formulation. Zardari's, Musharaf's and Sharif's wealth multiplies while the meek suffer the wrath of the heavens. Justice. Old Testament style. Arab style.

Thirdly, the overwhelming majority of Pakistanis, especially those from the lower classes, are very conservative and religious. They observe purdah, they pray on a regular basis and Islam is the most important aspect of their lives. But of course, for you, the best source of information is a YouTube comment. lol so much for standards. Secular Pakistan is restricted to the special enclaves of Islamabad and the Defence Housing areas of Karachi and Lahore.


"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

"Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".
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Default 04-15-2012, 03:27 AM

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lol Hanif al-Arab-in-denial...
Ntch sngh ad siwoulr stmazight lougha ino. I chk ? Ma tsnt atsiwoul slougha bak ?

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These men were from the Northern Light Infantry, which means they were overwhelmingly recruited from Gilgit and Baltistan. Most of the people from that region are Shi'ite and Ismaili. So maybe they were punished for being Shi'ite?
Maybe.

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Secondly, why would God punish the poorest and the most wretched of Pakistanis, most of whom have nothing to do with policy-formulation. Zardari's, Musharaf's and Sharif's wealth multiplies while the meek suffer the wrath of the heavens. Justice. Old Testament style. Arab style.
Do you know Las Vegas aka Sin City ? Women, sex, strip-clubs, gambling, alcohol, drugs, usury, showing-off, etc... basically all what is forbidden in Islam.

Well, it is a very rich city, with very high living standards, people there live like monarchs and there is plenty of beautiful lights.

You have to choose between this life and the hereafter.

Allah SWT will give to some disbelievers plenty of good things in this life (money, beauty, power? etc.) for many reasons. One of them being testing the believers.

Eventually, when we will all be dead, everyone will be retributed in accordance to their own deeds.


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Thirdly, the overwhelming majority of Pakistanis, especially those from the lower classes, are very conservative and religious. They observe purdah, they pray on a regular basis and Islam is the most important aspect of their lives. But of course, for you, the best source of information is a YouTube comment. lol so much for standards. Secular Pakistan is restricted to the special enclaves of Islamabad and the Defence Housing areas of Karachi and Lahore.
Being very conservative and religious would imply that they strictly adhere to the Sunnah.

Which is completely false.

It's the exact opposite.

People from the lower classes follow their culture and traditions instead of Islam.

They worship their country and their racial lineage instead of worshipping Allah Almighty.

I've seen a lot of pictures of Pakistani women with their faces being completely burned by acid.

These pictures were real, I didn't read that in a youtube comment.

If they were following the sunnah, such things would never be so widespread.

If these Pakistanis were actually following the sunnah, they wouldn't vote for political parties which are against pure Sharia.

What is the reality ?

The reality is that Pakistan is filled with fortune-tellers everywhere.

Most Pakistanis worship their country and Jinnah, they don't worship Allah SWT.

They love their country as an Idol even if it's one of the worst countries on earth.

Just take a look at the Pakistani flag, you see that it has a pagan symbol on it.

You can also read what Toramana, haviZSultan, PakistaniAtheist and SoldatAmir wrote there.

Muslims are supposed to be the best example of humanity, the pinnacle of human behaviours should come from muslims and all what I can say is that Pakistanis failed big time.

Of course, you can ignore it like the Jews ignored the holocaust as a divine punishment, you're not the first people on Earth to ignore the signs. Allah SWT exterminated several generations before.

Instead of returning to Islam, Pakistanis tend to pursue further in their disbelief.

They failed to do what Islam teaches in the first place and then refuse to blame their failures on their blatant lack of Islam. When they are punished, instead of learning from what happened as a lesson and try to please Allah SWT and ask for forgiveness, they instead tend to go further in their disbelief and try to find other solutions in Liberalism, Democracy and other man made Ideologies.


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