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    I've been keeping up with the history, heritage, society and politics of my country (Afghanistan) and as a result I've thought of an ideology which could be the only proper, correct and logical option which can save Afghanistan and the natives of Afghanistan from being doomed by war, loss of identity, poverty, degeneration, underdevelopment, lack of progression, lack of education and division. This ideology is beneficial for all natives of the country.

    Here it is:

    This land (Afghanistan) belongs to the Tajiks, Pamiris, Pashtuns, Balochis, Nuristanis and Pashayis.

    I want all these ethnic groups to unite because we are of the same ethnolinguistic origin. We are the original owners of this land. The original name of our land is Aryana which includes all of Afghanistan, all lands up to the Indus River (Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Gilgit-Baltistan, Balochistan), all of Tajikistan, Tashkurgan, Samarkand, Bukhara, Surkhandarya and Qashqadarya. This is called Aryana - the land of Aryas. In these lands - the Aryas are the majority and we are the natives. Enough playing around - enough division - enough of being puppets - time to stitch our land and people together for a united, developed, progressive, peaceful, educated, strong and independent Aryana.

    Here are my views:

    1) To remove artificial borders created by the British and Russians which divide Pashtuns, Tajiks and Balochis:
    No border between Pashtuns of Afghanistan and Pakistan. No border between Tajiks of Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, China and Pakistan. No border between Balochis of Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iran.

    2) To remove tribalism:


    We don't need tribalism. Especially among Pashtuns. You are only dividing yourselves even more - we need unity - not more division. If you carry on with these silly tribal affiliations - you will only divide which is bad because by division we are weaker thus prone attacks and subjugation. Say no to tribalism - no Durrani, Ghilzai, Ahmadzai, Yousafzai et cetera. By the way - most of these tribe names are artificial like Ahmadzai and Yousafzai. You are Aryas (Aryans) - not sons of Ahmad (Muhammad) the Semite or sons of Yusuf the Semite. Be proud of your true identity. Genetics, linguistics, history, culture, customs and religion proves this simple fact. Pashtuns are glorious proud Aryas (Aryans) - not Semites.

    3) Remove ethnic exonyms such as "Afghan", "Pashtun", "Tajik", "Nuristani" et cetera:


    Our ancestors called themselves as "Arya" and only "Arya" - nothing else. Only when we fell to foreign empires and thus subjugated - we then lost some of our original identity. And if you go through history - you will learn that the reason why Afghanistan and the surrounding countries are in big trouble today is because of what happened in history - the Arabs, Mongols and Turkic invaders is the main cause of our country's base problems - it's like a domino effect - we are experiencing them one after the otherEvidence for our original ethnic name "Arya":

    Our ancestors called their language and ethnic group as "Arya" and we must do the same. Enough of these exonyms and time to call ourselves by our endonym. The Bactrian language (a Middle Arya language) inscription of Kanishka the founder of the Kushan empire at Rabatak, which was discovered in 1993 in an unexcavated site in the Afghanistan province of Baghlan, clearly refers to this Eastern Arya language as "Arya".

    The term "Ariya" (Arya) also appears in the royal Old Persian inscriptions in three different contexts: 1) As the name of the language of the Old Persian version of the inscription of Darius the Great in Bagastana (Behistun); 2) as the ethnic background of Darius in inscriptions at Persepolis and Susa (Dna, Dse) and Xerxes in the inscription from Persepolis (Xph) and 3) as the definition of the God of Arya peoples, Ahuramazda, in the Elamite version of the Behistun inscription. For example in the Dna and Dse Darius and Xerxes describe themselves as "An Achaemenian, A Parsa (Persian) son of a Parsa (Persian) and an Arya (Aryan), of Arya (Aryan) stock". The Avesta (sacred texts of Zoroastrianism) clearly uses Airya (Arya) as an ethnic name (Vd. 1; Yt. 13.143-44, etc.), where it appears in expressions such as airyāfi; daiŋˊhāvō "Arya lands, peoples", airyō.ڑayanəm "land inhabited by Aryas", and airyanəm vaējō vaŋhuyāfi; dāityayāfi; "Arya stretch of the good Dāityā", the river Oxus, the modern Āmū Daryā.

    The Old Persian and Avestan evidence is confirmed by the Greek sources. Herodotus in his Histories remarks about the Arya Medes that: "These Medes were called anciently by all people Arians" (7.62). In Armenian sources, the Parthians, Medes and Persians are collectively referred to as Aryas. Eudemus of Rhodes apud Damascius (Dubitationes et solutiones in Platonis Parmenidem 125 bis) refers to "the Magi and all those of Arya (لreion) lineage"; Diodorus Siculus (1.94.2) considers Zoroaster (Zathraustēs) as one of the Arianoi. Strabo, in his "Geography", mentions the unity of Medes, Persians, Bactrians and Sogdians: "The name of Ariana is further extended to a part of Persia and of Media, as also to the Bactrians and Sogdians on the north; for these speak approximately the same language, with but slight variations." - Geography, 15.8.

    The trilingual inscription erected by Shapur's command gives a more clear description. The languages used are Parthian, Middle Persian and Greek. In Greek, the inscription says: "ego ... tou Arianon ethnous despotes eimi"("I am lord of the kingdom (Gk. nation) of the Aryans") which translates to "I am the king of the Arya people". In the Middle Persian, Shapour states: "ērānڑahr xwadāy hēm" and in Parthian he states: "aryānڑahr xwadāy ahēm". In the post-Islamic era, one can still see a clear usage of the term Iran (Arya) in the work of the 10th-century historian Hamzeh Ispahani. In his book the history of Prophets and Kings writes: "Aryan which is also called Pars (Persia) is in the middle of these countries and these six countries surround it because the South East is in the hands China, the North of the Turks, the middle South is India, the middle North is Rome, and the South West and the North West is the Sudan and Berber lands". All this evidence shows that the name Arya was a collective definition, denoting peoples (Geiger, pp. 167 f.; Schmitt, 1978, p. 31) who were aware of belonging to the one ethnic stock, speaking a common language, and having a religious tradition that centered on the cult of Ahura Mazdā.

    Unlike the various terms connected with the term Arya in Sanskrit, the
    Avestan term has solely an ethnic meaning and there can be no doubt about the ethnic value of ancient Aryana. arya (Benveniste, 1969, I, pp. 369 f.; Szemerényi; Kellens). The word Arya is still Arya in Eastern lands such as Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Pakistan and India but in Western lands it lives in the ethnic names like Alan, New Persian: Iran, Ossetian: Ir and Iron. The word Iran has been in usage since the Sasanian times. Before the Sasanian times the Western Aryas also used the word Arya. The word Arya was used during the Sasanian times too but only by the non-Persian Aryas such as Parthians.

    4) One ultimate language for Aryas - the Arya language:


    If you are not already aware - linguists predict that approximately 50% of the world's languages will become extinct by the year 2100 - correct me If I've mistaken. Now we don't want to lose our languages or allow our languages to become befouled by importing words from foreign languages like Arabic, English, Uzbek et cetera or god forbid, replaced. So in order to maintain and keep our languages alive whilst keeping unity - we must create a new purified and unified language called the Arya language - again like our ancestors whom called their language and ethnicity as "Arya". We need to take words and features from Pashto, Pashayi, Dari, Nuristani and other native languages to create this ultimate unified Arya language. If you do not do this - I predict more division, hatred, and loss of heritage and identity.

    5) Fresh native script for the Arya language:


    Why not? The current script we use for our languages is made by Arabs for the Arabic language. As an Afghan national who knows how to read and write Dari and Pashto, I have to say, I'm sick of the Arabic alphabet. It just doesn't work for our languages. You can already see our people naturally switching to the English alphabet on the internet as it's more convenient and superior due to that fact that it has more features that Arabic hasn't.

    For example: The way to write "Sky Fall" in Dari is "اسکای فال" which transliterates into "asky fal" but is pronounced as "eskaay faal". When I asked my friend why it's not just spelled "سکای فال" (without the ا in the beginning), I was told it would then be pronounced "sekaay faal" because there are no vowels and Afghan nationals have to guess the vowels.

    Another example: The name "Hamid Karzai" (current president of Afghanistan) is spelled "حامد کرزی" which transliterates into "Hamd Krzy" once again, because there is a lack of vowels. The Arabic alphabet must be abandoned.

    If we, for example, change to the Latin alphabet:

    "Sky Fall" would be spelled "Skây Fâll" so we don't have to guess the vowels, the vowels will all be there.

    "Hamid Karzai" would be spelled "Hâmid Karzai" so we can know the pronunciation of each vowel.

    This, which shows what the Latin alphabet can do for us, is just an option - I'm going a step further by advocating that it's better if we create our own specialized native script. We need our own specialized native script for the future Arya language. It's possible. I value my identity and heritage thus I believe that we deserve to have our own unique script for our language.

    6) Governing:

    The form of government will of course be a type of an ethnocratic state or something similar that is beneficial for our people - the Arya people. Of course this is not my finalized choice - but I'm giving you an idea of how our government should be.

    7) Racialism:


    Yes, we are different like every other human races - we have to right to remain homogeneous. Don't judge fast - I am not saying we are superior or inferior to any other nations on Earth - I just believe that we must stay homogeneous because I am proud of my Arya heritage and looks like many other people - so I wish to look the same as my ancestors and my children to look the same as me - there is no harm in that. We have borders because we are different - different languages, cultures, religons and genetics - even species of dogs and monkeys don't like to be with each other because they're different - some species are violent and some are peaceful - and in our case, we have a different language, culture, religion, customs, clothings and genetics to other human ethnic groups and races on Earth.This ideology is already practiced among Afghan nationals as you may already know - the natives mostly do not marry the immigrants like the Hazaras (Mongols).

    Here is a quote about racialism which is exactly like my view on racialism:


    Text version (just in-case the image hosting ends):
    "German racialism has been deliberately distorted. It never was an anti-"other race" racialism. It was a pro-German racialism. It was concerned with making the German race strong and healthy in every way. Hitler was not interested in having millions of degenerates, if it was in his power not to have them. Today one finds rampant alcohol and drug addiction everywhere. Hitler cared that the German families be healthy, cared that they raise healthy children for the renewal of a healthy nation. German racialism meant re-discovering the creative values of their own race, re-discovering their culture. It was a search for excellence, a noble idea. National Socialist racialism was not against the other races, it was for its own race. It aimed at defending and improving its race, and wished that all other races did the same for themselves." - Léon Degrelle.

    8) Traditionalism:


    We have different thinking and believes. We don't need our traditions to be befouled by an influx of foreign traditions (mostly American) - for example being part of the LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender) people is against the tradition of Aryas - we believe the natural order of things like our ancestors - it's even mentioned in the holy texts of Zoroastrianism. Oh and Zoroastrianism - the Arya religion - was created in ancient north Afghanistan.

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    Yeah - that's all I remember so far - If I remember more of my ideology I'll post it.

    By the way, I believe if the natives of this soil do not a
    ccept and practice my ideology - they will be no longer and they will keep suffering from all sorts of problems like they currently are.

    Frequently Asked Questions:


    Q: Are Germans and other Europeans Aryans?
    A: No - they only stole our heritage but we are part of the same greater ethnolinguistic group called the Indo-Europeans.

    Q: Why not also unite with Iranians too?
    A: Because they are not genetically Aryas - the people before them were - but they are not anymore, as proven by genetic studies.

    If you have any questions - feel free to ask.

    Extra content:


    Depiction of Aryana:




    Thanks for reading. Looking forward for the replies.
    www.aryasociety.info

  • #2
    LoL

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    • #3
      Shouldn't the replies be placed under not above?
      www.aryasociety.info

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      • #4
        What is your plan/idea regarding the borders. How will you eliminate the borders and unite the people.
        Don't quote me or speak to me if you hate Afghanistan, you be ignored.

        People with identity crisis will be ignored as well.

        ''When you cant make them see the light, make them feel the heat''
        Ronald Reagan

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7cmZyOrUA0

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9sz0nPePI

        Pashto dictionary:
        http://thepashto.com/index.php

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        • #5
          Such a pathetic thread. This seems to be posted by one of the old AfghanForum members who keep getting on here and come back with new accounts.

          Seriously, just a big WTF to this thread from me.
          "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

          -Old Pashtun proverb




          "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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          • #6
            I came accross this thread before

            I want a Pashtunistan where PAshtuns seperate from other Iranian peoples... honestly

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
              Such a pathetic thread. This seems to be posted by one of the old AfghanForum members who keep getting on here and come back with new accounts.

              Seriously, just a big WTF to this thread from me.
              He/She forgot a lot of problems first. We are one of the most poorest people, we are still being occupied and need deal with WAR, puppets, foreigner cultures, spies, watan forosha, and those borders can't be easy changed with so much mix raced people inside the drawn borders of your map. With today's specially identity crises people. And why do you think, yesterday Aryans are today's mix raced arabs, turks-mongolian, panj baboons and Greeco-macedonians???

              Funny part he/she wants to create a new language, by melting foreign language with almost pure Aryan language, that is PASHTO!!

              For now Calm down, you want your dream come true? Work hard and educated your fellow Pashtuns/Afghans in the future maybe your grand grand children will finish your dream. Because with DNA-Genetic policies, this hard task of today will seems to be a walk in the park work in near future. You will have your Aryana back purified, but you might not like how it will turned up! How do you think mix raced arabs-mongol-turks-panj baboons etc will behave if they know you will purify the Aryana lands?

              If these kind of people knew your policy officially they will end you in 1 sec. Work behind the curtains, like a true powerful force, and you will have no problem achieve your dreams in so 100 years, if Israelis has not blown up the whole planet with nukes.
              To Paradise, with Pakhto, I will go.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Loy Afghanistan View Post
                He/She forgot a lot of problems first. We are one of the most poorest people, we are still being occupied and need deal with WAR, puppets, foreigner cultures, spies, watan forosha, and those borders can't be easy changed with so much mix raced people inside the drawn borders of your map. With today's specially identity crises people. And why do you think, yesterday Aryans are today's mix raced arabs, turks-mongolian, panj baboons and Greeco-macedonians???

                Funny part he/she wants to create a new language, by melting foreign language with almost pure Aryan language, that is PASHTO!!

                For now Calm down, you want your dream come true? Work hard and educated your fellow Pashtuns/Afghans in the future maybe your grand grand children will finish your dream. Because with DNA-Genetic policies, this hard task of today will seems to be a walk in the park work in near future. You will have your Aryana back purified, but you might not like how it will turned up! How do you think mix raced arabs-mongol-turks-panj baboons etc will behave if they know you will purify the Aryana lands?

                If these kind of people knew your policy officially they will end you in 1 sec. Work behind the curtains, like a true powerful force, and you will have no problem achieve your dreams in so 100 years, if Israelis has not blown up the whole planet with nukes.
                Well said, most Pashtuns are suffering from lack of education, poverty, leadership and he/she is speaking of unification of central asian states like it can just magically happen. So you basically want what, Russia's old backyard in your pan-afghan state without giving the natives a chance to decide if they want to become part of it?

                Thanks but no thanks, i'm all for unity but only of the Pashtun inhabited areas.
                "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                -Old Pashtun proverb




                "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                • #9
                  I agree with some ideas like adopting Latin alphabet and abandon Arabic script. This is feasible and already taking place at least in the virtual world.

                  The idea of Aryana as a mother civilization and culture is also not bad. But realistically speaking, this is the era of nation states so changing borders is not possible. However countries of Aryan background can pose an association or organization for political, cultural, educational and economic cooperation but cannot become one federation or confederation.

                  Pashtuns have evolved into a separate ethnicity with their own language, culture, history and identity so it cannot me merged with other identities but our racial stock being Aryans cannot be rejected.

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                  • #10
                    This whole plan is wrong on so many levels, you claim that Iranians are geneticaly diffrent from "us" but tajiks are also mixed, just look at them most of them look really mongolian, especially in tajikistan, all of us are mixed even Pashtuns, there is no pure Arya race left. We are at the start of another civil war becuase filthy tajikis can't handle there defeat, and you hear speak about uniting with them.
                    Thanks but no thanks, I rather stick to my own Pashtuns.

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                    • #11
                      Alright cool - I see this forum likes a Pashtun only unity.

                      Here is my view on what that would lead to: Division of Afghanistan. Then a small land for Pashtuns of Afghanistan and Pakistan. Then within yourselves, you will start fights and divide again based on Ghilzai and Durrani? Come on! You will not get Loy Afghanistan as depicted by most Pashtun nationalists - that imaginary Loy Afghanistan that takes Baloch and other non-Pashtun land will never happen. Balochis will get their own country if you try that. Tajiks will get the whole of North Afghanistan and unite it with Tajikistan.

                      So think twice - Afghanistan will divide in the future if we do not make my plan happen. You are falling for the trap of the enemies - divide and conquer. Lets unite.

                      By the way - you will be landlocked - only Balochis can see some realistic benefit from division - no one else. Economies of land-locked nations are very poor. Why should we Aryas divide? Lets unite - like our ancestors - we have more in common than we do in differences.
                      www.aryasociety.info

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mazdaarya View Post
                        Alright cool - I see this forum likes a Pashtun only unity.

                        Here is my view on what that would lead to: Division of Afghanistan. Then a small land for Pashtuns of Afghanistan and Pakistan. Then within yourselves, you will start fights and divide again based on Ghilzai and Durrani? Come on! You will not get Loy Afghanistan as depicted by most Pashtun nationalists - that imaginary Loy Afghanistan that takes Baloch and other non-Pashtun land will never happen. Balochis will get their own country if you try that. Tajiks will get the whole of North Afghanistan and unite it with Tajikistan.

                        So think twice - Afghanistan will divide in the future if we do not make my plan happen. You are falling for the trap of the enemies - divide and conquer. Lets unite.

                        By the way - you will be landlocked - only Balochis can see some realistic benefit from division - no one else. Economies of land-locked nations are very poor. Why should we Aryas divide? Lets unite - like our ancestors - we have more in common than we do in differences.
                        Pashtun racism and ethnocentrism will be Afghanistan's demise.

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                        • #13
                          I warned you guys of the future. You don't want to be in the situation I warned of - especially when you make this mistake and your future generations look back and feel sad that such thing happened to their land, identity and heritage.

                          If anyone likes this ideology - lets discuss it. I will keep returning to this thread to see if someone agrees with this ideology so we can get it started.
                          www.aryasociety.info

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
                            What is your plan/idea regarding the borders. How will you eliminate the borders and unite the people.
                            We must educate the natives about their identity via the education system, media and governmental policies. When they are older - they will establish the political side of this ideology - when it's physically ready to take place, they will simple revolt, destroy the artificial border, take military action and secure the new borders.
                            www.aryasociety.info

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                              Thanks but no thanks, i'm all for unity but only of the Pashtun inhabited areas.
                              You sir are anti Tajik, Uzbek and Hazara

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