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Default 12-05-2011, 11:40 PM

I like this baloch song, video is stupid

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Default 12-06-2011, 05:19 AM

I never met an Baloch in real life, but in Southern Afghanistan you can find them, my father says that they look like arabs, but culturaly and some of the words in there language looks like ours. And what is sardar??
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Default 12-06-2011, 06:32 AM

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Is it true that these sardars dont allow their people to be educated? or is that a myth?
These sardars and wadarais themeselves are highly educated and many have studied from foriegn. They are clever, they know if their "mazarais" become educated then their influence over them will be lifted. I dont know whether it is myth and truth, but in television dramas they depict such situation..it is a fact that most backward and illiterate regions in pakistan are baloch regions and rural sindh. Urdu speakers were highly educated, and on merit sindhis were unable to compete with them in every field. Thats why bhutto introduced quota system which is kind of unfair.


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I never met an Baloch in real life, but in Southern Afghanistan you can find them, my father says that they look like arabs, but culturaly and some of the words in there language looks like ours. And what is sardar??
Sardar means chief


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Is it true that these sardars dont allow their people to be educated? or is that a myth?
That is one of the most disgusting and oft-perpetuated lie about the Baloch and their leaders.

The truth is that almost all the districts of Balochistan lie under the direct control of the provincial and federal government and not the tribal leaders. The tribal leaders cannot force people to not send their kids to school. It is, in fact, the government in Islamabad that has left the Baloch uneducated by draining their land of its resources and giving them peanuts in return. The fact is that the Baloch are so deprived that in most cases, they cannot afford to send their children to school. The rural Baloch are amongst the most wretched people on earth.


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That is one of the most disgusting and oft-perpetuated lie about the Baloch and their leaders.

The truth is that almost all the districts of Balochistan lie under the direct control of the provincial and federal government and not the tribal leaders. The tribal leaders cannot force people to not send their kids to school. It is, in fact, the government in Islamabad that has left the Baloch uneducated by draining their land of its resources and giving them peanuts in return. The fact is that the Baloch are so deprived that in most cases, they cannot afford to send their children to school. The rural Baloch are amongst the most wretched people on earth.
Tell me why pashtuns of balochistan are more educated then balochs even though their areas are as backward as baloch areas?


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Default 12-06-2011, 07:55 AM

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I never met an Baloch in real life, but in Southern Afghanistan you can find them, my father says that they look like arabs, but culturaly and some of the words in there language looks like ours. And what is sardar??
It is because they apparently (Baloch) came from Mesopotamia (current Iraq) centuries ago. Their traditional dresses are also similar to the Assyrian ones as I remember.
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Default 12-06-2011, 08:11 AM

I have seen on pictures many Baloch that look quiet more Dark than Arabs, more like ethiopian with curley hair and also some very clear Baloch, looking like persians.
They all look so different.
I think Baloch included Genetically very different groups.
There was once an article I read by n Armenian Iranist, he was researching the differences between Baloch and Pashtuns, and Balochized Pashtuns.
He stated That Pashtuns are a tribal society with strict ruels and a strict tibal system based on Pashtun descendant while Baloch peoples are more free in this sense, they do not follow so much descendant and easily include Pashtuns, Brahvis and even the farest foreigner inside their group as long as he follows Baloch identity.
He stated that being Pashtun is very much related to origin and to being Pashtun following the Pashtuns lifestyle but being Baloch is mor liberal without such a strict elder system, and not based ot origins so that Baloch included and include recently many non-Baloch peoples.
Further he told that some Pashtuns , for some social reasons finding difficulties to stay with their tribe joined some Baloch groups, that didn't care so much to their social problems.


Please do not judge my opinion, as I have no opinion on that subject, I only stated what I read , so it is on You to comment it(unfortunately I cannot post the riginal article).
I do not want to offend anybody but only stated that I read this kind of article.


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Default 12-06-2011, 04:07 PM

no difference
they are both muslims.


why do you always look for differences in people?
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