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Question US changes account of al-Qaida leader's death - 05-03-2011, 12:10 PM

Osama bin Laden: US changes account of al-Qaida leader's death | World news | guardian.co.uk Osama bin Laden: US changes account of al-Qaida leader's death

US counter-terrorism officials correct earlier claims that al-Qaida chief fired a weapon and that his wife was killed


  • Haroon Siddique
  • guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 3 May 2011 16.38 BST <li class="history">Article history A building in Osama bin Laden's last refuge, the compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, where he was killed by US troops. Photograph: KeystoneUSA-ZUMA / Rex Features

    The US has backed away from its initial account of the killing of Osama bin Laden, which claimed that the al-Qaida leader was carrying a weapon and fired at US troops before he was shot dead.
    On Monday, John Brennan, a counterterrorism adviser to Barack Obama, said Bin Laden was "engaged in a firefight" with his assailants and he did not know if he "got off any rounds". Other US officials briefed that he was firing at members of the US navy's elite Seal Team Six.
    However, subsequent briefings by US officials suggest that, when confronted at the high-security complex in Abbottabad, Bin Laden did not have a weapon and did not fire at his assailants. With some questions being raised as to why Bin Laden was shot dead, and whether he was executed, rather than taken into custody, Brennan said: "If we had the opportunity to take Bin Laden alive, if he didn't present any threat, the individuals involved were able and prepared to do that."
    Officials have continued to imply he offered resistance before he was shot but have not clarified the extent of that resistance, given that he apparently did not have a weapon. Bin Laden was shot once above the left eye and once in the chest. The Obama administration is considering whether to release photographs of his burial at sea.
    There were additional changes to the original narrative offered by US officials. Reporters were initially told that one of Bin Laden's wives was killed while he was using her as a human shield, prompting headlines such as "Osama bin Laden killed cowering behind his 'human shield' wife". But it has since been clarified that Bin Laden's wife was shot in the calf and did not die in the assault, although another woman was killed. This change of account has also raised questions over whether Bin Laden's wife - or anyone else - was being used as a human shield.
    One US official told Politico: "Two women were shot here. It sounds like their fates were mixed up. This is hours old and the full facts are still being ascertained as those involved are debriefed."
    As well as amending the condition of Bin Laden's wife, US officials have also changed the name of which of his sons was killed during the raid. The dead son was initially named in press reports as Hamza, described in one article as Bin Laden's "presumed heir" to the leadership of al-Qaida, apparently based on the official White House transcript of a Brennan briefing. However, Brennan said during the briefing that it was another son, Khalid, who was killed.
    Qualifying the narrative of the assault that he offered to reporters, Brennan explained that some of the information came from live video feeds of the raid. "I wasn't there," he said.

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Osama Bin Laden Images May Be Released To Show His Burial At Sea, Claims A US Official | World News | Sky News
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Default 05-03-2011, 12:19 PM

Very interesting - these are barely the first round of contradictions.
Why don't journalists ask even a few tiny layers deeper?
Why do they ASSUME immediately that it WAS he ?
After all it could have been ANYONE or a fake dummy !!!!
These journalists are totally ruled by evil forces.
The fact that no mainstream paper has addressed
the most obvious question:
who was this?
And why on earth the man would choose to live in
Abbotabad !!
It's crazy....
If the Pakistan Army were keeping they would move him somewhere
else, not put him there right near them.
Duh !

Images of burial at sea: so what ? Any old wax figure could be dumped.
I sure liked the RT analyst who said it
was a MAFIA action to dump a victim into the ocean.

Of course no mainstream media in the West would DARE venture
such a quotation of the MERELY OBVIOUS ....
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Default 05-03-2011, 12:26 PM

At this stage no one knows anything, whether he even existed or not, whether this was some 10 year attempt to control Afghanistan which has resulted in complete failure?

At this stage, its safe to say that everything is in question.
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Default 05-03-2011, 12:34 PM

Well yes ! You are wise to remain a distance and objectivity.
One has to QUESTION everything these days with such sophisticated
propaganda machines developed in the West; Russia has the same.

Did you see the video posted in Hujra by Manzareh?
That was SO funny - !
So maybe he never did exist....
or changed from khaki fatigues into a presidential business suit ?
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Default 05-03-2011, 12:35 PM

one ridiculous report said they landed tha helcopters an the compound then 'snuck' into the house. duuuhhh.! like how would osama not have guns to protect himself?
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Default 05-03-2011, 12:43 PM

I believe that OBL was probably shuffled into the compound quite a large lenth of time ago...probably cover of night. Like when Hussein was found in that hole in the earth and was given weekly rations by someone.

He probably lived there for quite a long time and never left the "facility." Which in part, would be the reason why no outsiders ever noticed him.
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Default 05-03-2011, 01:14 PM

^ Yes that would be obvious - IF it had been THE REAL McCoy.
he would have to have never left the compound -
But there's no way he would have stayed in Abbottabad - that is
preposterous.
It's the same as how they keep insisting that Mullah Omar is
drinking tea in Quetta = as even the RT expert maintained in
yesterday's video.
That was the only obviously faulty part of his answers to the
interviewer.

Osama wasn't alive; I'm almost sure of that.

Any old dummy can be set up and a conveniently dramatic story
staged about wives, in order to create that Orientalist fascination
with the multiple wives/ harem lifestyle...
That's MY take on that part.

Just to give average Americans something to jabber about "did you hear
about the wife" - and notice how the story was originally set up to paint
the purported leader as a COWARD, so all Americans could jeer.

It would take their mind OFF of the serious problems facing the country
and individual financial difficulties which have never been so bad
since the Depression.

This is all a big CIRCUS to entertain. It's not that far from a video game.
They say many Americans are addicted to those;
so it shows how desperate the need IS
to get away from the trials of real life at this juncture.


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Default 05-04-2011, 05:48 AM

So you believe he was already killed. Do you think natural causes or killed.Who did the job? Why not disclosure then?
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