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Default Decision on Durand Line Belongs to Afghans, Faizi Says - 10-24-2012, 03:56 PM

http://www.tolonews.com/en/afghanist...ans-faizi-says

President Hamid Karzai's spokesman on Wednesday said the Durand Line dividing Afghanistan and Pakistan is a matter for the Afghan people to decide, dismissing statements by American officials on what the demarcation means under US policy.

Aimal Faizi said the comments of foreigners on the Durand Line will not have any effect on the verdict of the Afghan people, to whom the decision belongs.

"Whatever their position is, it will not affect the Afghan people and government. The Durand Line is a historic matter and it is up to the people of Afghanistan to decide about this," Faizi said at a press conference in Kabul.

The Durand Line Agreement was drawn up by the British in 1893 to divide the Pashtun region between what was then British India and the Kingdom of Afghanistan.

Pakistan inherited the agreement after its partition from the British Raj in 1947 but there has never been an official ratification of the line between Islamabad and Kabul.

Faizi's statement comes US special envoy for Afghanistan and Pakistan Marc Grossman triggered a renewed debate on the demarcation with his comments in an interview on a private television network in Kabul on Sunday.

"Our policy is that border is the international border," Grossman said on October 21. "I think it is time to lift everybody's vision here to a regional conception of what the region could be."

US State Department spokesperson Victora Nuland reiterated Grossman's statement on Tuesday in the US after she was asked by a reporter about the matter.

"Well, our policy on this has not changed. It was correctly stated by Ambassador Grossman that we see this as the internationally recognised boundary," she

said.
The Afghan government has already responded to Grossman's comment with a statement on Tuesday from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs saying it "rejects and considers irrelevant any statement by anyone about the legal status of this line.


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Default 10-24-2012, 06:27 PM

Afghan government got their propriety wrong ,we Afghan should recognize the line as international boarder ,today Pakhtuns in Pak are truly integrated part of pakistan apart from a very limited number of pakhtuns in KP the overwhelming majority Pakhtuns are patriot pakistanis they are more Pakistani then Ali Janah himself ,we Afghan should accept the fact that we are now two different people,we should get over the idea of reunification ,it's impossible because Pakhtun on the other side don't want it , Afghan government must stop their silly and imbecilic wild goose chase and spend the resources on more important issues we daily facing down here in Afghanistan .

I can't for the life of me understand what in common I would have with a Niazi from Miawli ,we even don't speak the same tongue.

We Afghan should get down off our high horses and face the music,start work for own population instead of idiotic policies.


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Default 10-24-2012, 06:44 PM

it is all for the sake of bravado. the afghan gov't as well as all past governments know that this is an international border that is recognized the world over. i think afghans from afghanistan have gone as far as they can go when it comes to pashtun nationalism and the durand line issue. besides some pashtun nationalist parties who are tied to the hip with the paki government but whisper afg unification on the side, there is no real partner in pakistan. the afghans in afghanistan have had the same stance throughout various governments during the decades, while there has been no positive collective response from the paki pashtuns. unless the paki pashtuns have anything to say about it, id say its a dead issue.


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Default 10-24-2012, 08:56 PM

Sad indeed…was hoping for a statement from so called “nationalist” parties in Pashtunistan in support of Afg gov…but so far they all playing mute…. Certainly, there’s much need change by how we think or preserve the ground realities..… Sentiments must be put aside…but then worst case scenario Durand can be used as a bargain with Punjabian.


ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو
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Default 10-24-2012, 11:39 PM

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Sad indeed…was hoping for a statement from so called “nationalist” parties in Pashtunistan in support of Afg gov…but so far they all playing mute…. Certainly, there’s much need change by how we think or preserve the ground realities..… Sentiments must be put aside…but then worst case scenario Durand can be used as a bargain with Punjabian.
Waa Waa looooll... da kuni tha wegoraa; chana wahee Panjabyaan sara zmenzh mzakeey aw wataan la paraa. Zghalaa kor tha aw khonna key patsha da Telai Bibi Harami! Looool. Dena Makhka Rusyaan darqe konaa warqaa; aw bya Saleh Bibi darkay kona wa seekho, aw bya Bush darqey wemendel... aw tharossa ghap ghap dha spee pa raqam key.


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Default 10-24-2012, 11:47 PM

For those of you jujst joining the festivities... here is this fag-got proving he has NO basic knowledge of Pashto that an American soldier who spends three days in Afghanistan figures out:

http://www.pashtunforums.com/showthr...ighlight=spaag

You silly spee; da spee bacheeyaa... LOLLL. There are hundreds of words for dog in Pashto. The word, for your species in one dialect is Sagzh; NOT spaag you fu-cking idiot. I've already been informed about your roots by someone who has known you for some time. Time to pick up the Pashto books again.

The word you confused it with is SPEGA which is Yusufzai dialect for Louse. I agree that your species is some sort of hybrid between lice and dog... but please Azmal... quit insulting your own mother for our benefit.

So lets see..
if it walks like a duck (your loyalty to Saleh)
and it talks like a duck (your ass starts to itch when you feel your backers are threatened)
And it cannot even talk like a Pashtun first grader
Its definitly a Persian Mongoloid named Azz-smell


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Default 10-25-2012, 01:30 AM

Inshallah, Loy Afghanistan will be reunited and the Durand line will be broken for good. Pakistan is a haram state created by the British, hope our brothers on the other side realize this one day.


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Any chance of Afghanistan and Pakistan uniting with Peshawar as the capital?
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Afghan government got their propriety wrong ,we Afghan should recognize the line as international boarder ,today Pakhtuns in Pak are truly integrated part of pakistan apart from a very limited number of pakhtuns in KP the overwhelming majority Pakhtuns are patriot pakistanis they are more Pakistani then Ali Janah himself ,we Afghan should accept the fact that we are now two different people,we should get over the idea of reunification ,it's impossible because Pakhtun on the other side don't want it , Afghan government must stop their silly and imbecilic wild goose chase and spend the resources on more important issues we daily facing down here in Afghanistan .

I can't for the life of me understand what in common I would have with a Niazi from Miawli ,we even don't speak the same tongue.

We Afghan should get down off our high horses and face the music,start work for own population instead of idiotic policies.
completely agree. we wasted enough blood, treasure and time on this issue
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Any chance of Afghanistan and Pakistan uniting with Peshawar as the capital?
any chance that you are brain amputated ???



the point is not that the any current afghan goverment INCLUDING taliboon could manage to break the punjabos and take what is ours ,

BUT one should never give up a claim , especially not in international affairs !!!!

its not about wether we can get it or not , but the future may change , despite that the pakis would not stop their interaction in our affairs , regardless we accepted the border or not .

the point of sole selfcontainment of the pakis are already passed , they are not aiming for the integrity of their yahudi british state but they belive they can manage to conquer a fifth province ....

and sadly aslong dirtbags are out their who are more concernd about their own rule , regardless how they gained it and legitimising it by telling the people they bring islam , you can be sure the napaks will manage to keep us dependent
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