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Default 10-10-2012, 02:07 PM

America power will not decline at least for the coming few decades. Till the time American society is based on democracy, liberalism, secularism, human rights and development they will never fall.

Their aggression is against dictators like Saddam, Qaddafi and terrorists like Omar and Osama. So far they have not occupied any state like Iraq or Afghansitan. They dont need to kill their own men and women just for resources. They dont need resources at the cost of life. They buy resources why to lose lives.

Still in the larger interest of their nation they can do what they want. Arabs started from Mecca and Madina and occupied the whole known world of that time. Was that not an aggression? Pashtuns occupied the whole India. Why we dont blame them.
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America power will not decline at least for the coming few decades. Till the time American society is based on democracy, liberalism, secularism, human rights and development they will never fall.

Their aggression is against dictators like Saddam, Qaddafi and terrorists like Omar and Osama. So far they have not occupied any state like Iraq or Afghansitan. They dont need to kill their own men and women just for resources. They dont need resources at the cost of life. They buy resources why to lose lives.

Still in the larger interest of their nation they can do what they want. Arabs started from Mecca and Madina and occupied the whole known world of that time. Was that not an aggression? Pashtuns occupied the whole India. Why we dont blame them.
what the

i had a mini stroke just reading this jibberish.


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Default 10-11-2012, 04:39 AM

I don't understand why some of you are so happy that US power declines, the nation that will take US place is no better maybe even worser than US.......
The sad truth is that again whith the decline of another superpower muslims nation still gona be opressed by the newcoming one.
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I don't understand why some of you are so happy that US power declines, the nation that will take US place is no better maybe even worse than US.......
The sad truth is that again with the decline of another superpower Muslims nation still gonna be oppressed by the new coming one.
Exactly and the same happened when Russians left Afghanistan, Alqaida took over it and which became the reason for he entry of USA. Now if USA leaves Afghanistan the vacuum will be filled by another power. Before Afghanistan itelf become a regional power USA may not leave Afghanistan.

This is an opportunity Afghans strengthen themselves against any other aggressor. USA is a blessing which is suggesting democracy, development and human rights for Afghanistan not like others who either brought communism or extremism.
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Exactly and the same happened when Russians left Afghanistan, Alqaida took over it and which became the reason for he entry of USA. Now if USA leaves Afghanistan the vacuum will be filled by another power. Before Afghanistan itelf become a regional power USA may not leave Afghanistan.

This is an opportunity Afghans strengthen themselves against any other aggressor. USA is a blessing which is suggesting democracy, development and human rights for Afghanistan not like others who either brought communism or extremism.

you sound like a western mouthpiece. aq taking over afghanistan after the russians left? what? afghanistan becoming a regional power while under the american boot? what? america won't even respond to US funded paki military attacks in kunar and border incursions but you think afghanistan is on its way to regional power....what in the hell.

if america is your model for human rights and development, you need to put down that spiked american kool aid and read the quran. you can sell your own soul because its yours to do what you want with, but don't think the pashtun nation will do the same.


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Default 10-18-2012, 02:20 PM

USA has a positive aspect which we may appreciate objectively that whenever they intervene or even invade they talk of democary, human rights and development. they are not like communists to impose the inhuman system of communism nor like Arabs to promulgate strict inhuman barbarian Islam of Taliban.

If we shun for a while our hatered against USA and ponder over its contribution in the war against terror in Pakistan and Afghansitan then we are honestly compelled to appreciate their role. Now we have demoartic intitutions in Afghansitan and Taliban are practically out of power and influence. If some one prefer the rule of Taliban to the present situation then its ideological difference and we cant debate here.
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Default 10-19-2012, 05:38 PM

facebook, blue jeans, and iphones are not a positive aspect.

thank you america for not only creating this mess in afghanistan with the russians in the 70s, but now occupying the country and killing the people that were created by your hand.


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Default 10-19-2012, 05:44 PM

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America power will not decline at least for the coming few decades. Till the time American society is based on democracy, liberalism, secularism, human rights and development they will never fall.

I live in the USA, people who are actually concerned about these things (versus mainstream media/entertainment addicts) are talking about the "End of the Empire", how we should split into two autonomous countries with red states (anti-liberalism, anti-secularism) vs blue states (anti-democracy and anti-human rights, in practice). So you have one camp that knows things aren't right and are 'Hoping' for 'Change' and that everything will get better, another camp that wants nothing to do with this and thinks we've changed way too much already, and the majority who don't care where the US ranks in the world as long as the electricity stays on, cable/internet works, and supermarkets shelves remain at a surplus.
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