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Default Pashtanai qabilay - 07-28-2012, 06:22 AM

I invite knowledgeable members to ascertain accuracy of this document:


http://www.scribd.com/doc/15687191/P...ukhtun-Tribes-

It is a tribal structure map in list format.

Please comment on accuracy with particular emphasis on:
Baitane bracketed as Ghilji
Sarban bracketed as Durani
Correct place of each subtribe under relevant main tribe
Omissions and Additions

For instance:
1)Under Gharghast tribe, the subtribe (12)Sapai (safi) appear.
I can confirm from other sources (Khyber.org) that safi belong to Gharghast tribe.

2)under Sarban(Durani), the subtribe (31) Momand appear.
I can confirm Momand appear correctly placed under Sarban tribe, however the intermediate sub-tribe Ghoria Khel linking Sarban to Momand is not indicated (www.freewebs.com/mohmands)

3)bracketing of Sarban as Durani - no evidence available to confirm or refute.

4)Under Sarban, sub-tribe (18) is Saakzai. No evidence to support this. However ScimitarX has claimed sakzai to be Ghilji.

So please look at the structure see if you find any anomalies.

Manana

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Default 07-28-2012, 06:30 AM

There are some wrongs i have seen in some of these structure maps regarding paktyawal tribes...for others i can't say much.


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There are some wrongs i have seen in some of these structure maps regarding paktyawal tribes...for others i can't say much.
Thanks. Please comment what is incorrect, give me specific detail. I'll compile it and after some time map out a new tribe tree.
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Brother your link is not working properly.


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Brother your link is not working properly.
Try now. Move the slide tool t bottom to see pages 1 through 8.
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Default 07-29-2012, 02:41 PM

Yes,i overlooked it,and it is all fine til now,inshaAllah i will check with other sources,if i find anything not suiting i will report,but good job mashaAllah.


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Default 08-10-2012, 02:46 AM

There is a far superior Pashtun Qabiley book written by Dr. Latif Yaad. It has been recently updated as well.

You can download the PDF e-book from Khyber.org:

http://www.khyber.org/books/latifyada.pdf
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Default 08-10-2012, 02:01 PM

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There is a far superior Pashtun Qabiley book written by Dr. Latif Yaad. It has been recently updated as well.

You can download the PDF e-book from Khyber.org:

http://www.khyber.org/books/latifyada.pdf

thanks!!!!
i will look into it. the books i have seen are by the english who were in india, not what i am looking for.
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Default 08-11-2012, 03:51 AM

Dr. Latif Yaad's book is a lot more in detail and adds footnotes on prominent figures that are not known by the Western World. You will like it a lot better.
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Default 08-11-2012, 09:31 PM

midnightsun, latif yada book stops after 'kaaf'. where is the other part? you know, 'laam, meem, nun . . . '
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