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Default Pakistan's extremists whip up frenzy over Burma's Muslims - 08-04-2012, 08:42 PM

Pakistan's extremists whip up frenzy over Burma's Muslims

The exaggerated version of truth about violence in Myanmar propagated by religious groups in Pakistan to recruit and fund their own agendas.

Pakistanis are mounting protests online and in the streets of cities like Lahore and Peshawar over the ill-treatment of Muslims in Myanmar, a situation that Islamist groups here are distorting to raise money and potentially win recruits.
The international community has raised concerns about human rights abuses against Muslim Rohingyas in Myanmar. Clashes in June between Rohingyas and their Buddhist neighbors, the Rakhine, left 78 dead, according to the Myanmar government. A new Human Rights Watch report calls the number "grossly underestimated" and charges that security forces failed to protect Rohingyas, and in some cases opened fire on them.
But on the streets of Pakistan, the rhetoric runs much hotter with protesters claiming "thousands" of Rohingyas are being slaughtered in western Myanmar (also known as Burma). Online, meanwhile, a series of doctored and misidentified photographs are circulating widely in Pakistani social media and beyond that purport to show violence against Rohingyas.
Investigations by social media watchdogs, and the respected Pakistani newspaper Express Tribune, have proven that most of these claims are exaggerated or entirely false.
For example, one photo posted on a Facebook page originating from Pakistan show Buddhists dressed in their traditional red robes standing in the middle of two rows of dead bodies. The caption reads: "Bodies of Muslims killed by Buddhists." In reality, this picture is from an earthquake incident in China in 2010, where Tibetan monks came to help with the rescue efforts.
Islamist groups are exploiting the whipped up sentiments in Pakistan to raise money, ostensibly for the Rohingyas, at a time when political parties are also building up campaign coffers in anticipation of upcoming national elections. One militant Islamist group, the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan, even threatened the Myanmar government, saying it will avenge the blood of Muslims being killed in Myanmar.
Shahzad Ahmad, the Pakistan country director for the global online activism group called Bytes for All, says stories of Muslim victimization around the world are exaggerated in Pakistan by Islamist groups on the Internet.
“They use such campaigns not only to fund themselves but also to gain more political ground and recruit people for their cause. Our research shows that there are many fake photographs being used to propagate [stories of] atrocities against Muslims on many of the Facebook pages which originate from Pakistan,” says Mr. Ahmad.
Hundreds of pages in support of the Rohingya have appeared on the Internet over the past few months, he says.
“While there is no denying there are human rights violations in Myanmar against Muslims, such exaggerated online campaigns may attract those who want to promote terror and collaborate with extremist groups which operate openly in Pakistan,” adds Ahmad.
Among the groups involved in stirring the activism are Jamat-e-Islami and Jamiat-e-Ulema Islam, two Islamist groups which hold significant street power in the country.
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Jamat-e-Islami and Jamiat-e-Ulema Islam are political parties with a strong presence in rural areas of Pakistan. They believe in a conservative Islamic ideology and propagate the same in their political vision. Jamat-ud-Dawa, the political arm of the Islamist militia group Lashkar-e-Toiba, is a charity organization banned internationally and is under strict watch in Pakistan as it has been accused of being involved in the 2008 Mumbai attacks, an allegation it denies.
In a conversation with Ayub Munir, the head of foreign affairs at Jamat-e-Islami, one of the oldest Islamist parties in Pakistan, Mr. Munir repeatedly referred to the situation in Myanmar as a genocide of Muslims. “Our biggest concern is the mass killings of Muslims there. This genocide should immediately stop,” says Munir.
Like others, Jamat-e-Islami has announced they are collecting charity for the affected Rohingya community.
“We have opened a bank account, and we have received immense response,” Munir says.
But, as of yet, he does not know how they will be sending this help to Myanmar. “No one can access that area. So we have been unable to send anything. But we plan to talk to the United Nations to help us send food, medicine, and tents,” the Jamat-e-Islami representative adds.
According to him, Muslims have been pushed out of their homes and are living in the jungle, and therefore they need immediate shelter. “We have some workers on the Bangladesh side, and we have asked them to reach out to the Rohingya community,” he claims.
The recent TTP threat to carry out attacks in Myanmar is even more logistically unlikely. Analysts in Pakistan say the aim of the message is more to raise their global brand and attract recruits.
SEE ALSO: UN envoy visits Myanmar as ethnic clashes test reforms
An intelligence official working on counter-terrorism, who is not authorized to speak to the media, says such issues are raised by extremists to gain popularity. “This gets them in the goods books of the Pakistani masses,” the official added. He further said that he has come across evidence where groups in Pakistan doing social welfare work in the country have been involved in funding international "jihad," as he liked to refer to it.
But the romance of "ummah," or the unity of the global Muslim community, has been historically pervasive among South Asian Muslims, says Raza Rumi, a noted columnist.

"There have been instances in our history when funds for Islamic causes have been raised even in the early 20th century when a movement to save the Turkic Caliphate was launched in undivided India," Rumi added.
Fund raising however has acquired a new dimension given the spread of political Islam in this region since the 1980s. Most Islamist organizations have been involved in cross-continental transfers to support various causes.
"On the issue of Burma there is a concerted campaign in place now which is collecting funds without a clear ideas as to how these funds reach the persecuted minority in Myanmar," said Rumi. In fact, one major area of concern is that Pakistan's weak enforcement of rules, which in theory allow the government to restrict banned or controversial groups from raising funds, allows such groups to operate and "raise funds with impunity," Rumi adds.
"This is a cause of concern for many rational Pakistanis who want more effective controls on extremist outfits." opines Rumi.

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What a bunch of blind idiots.

Muslim Baloch men and even children here are being kidnapped, tortured and their bodies are mutilated to such an extent that they're identified through DNA and not their faces. Yet the mullahs stay silent. The Pakistani army has killed an incalculable number of civilians through its artillery barrages and "precision" airstrikes in FATA. Yet the Mullahs remain silent. And what about Karachi's Muslims?

According to most estimates, around 100 Burmese Muslims have been killed in Burma's communal riots. The fight is more about nationhood and land than it is about religion.

This is very typical of Pakistanis. People will be slaughtered in their own backyard but they'll still be fixated about Palestine, Libya, Burma and Chechnya.


"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

"Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".
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1.Every killing, every genocide, all atrocities must be condemned by all irrespective of religion, race or political ideology. A Chitrali, a Balochi, a Kashmiri, a Gujrati Muslim, an Assamese Muslim or a Rohingya Arakanese Muslim are all human beings.

2. If the victim is a Muslim then it is enjoined on him/her to resist. It is also enjoined on all Muslims to assist him/her.
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This is the standard tactic of the so-called Muslim elites on the Indian subcontinent.

- It is in their vested interest to keep the masses ignorant, poor and uneducated; so that their grip over the political power remains unchallenged in the future.

- Paradoxically, the Mullah brigade also seeks to keep the Muslim masses in the dark, as they realize that if poor Muslims find out that their is no clergy/'scholar class' described in Holy Quran, than they will be the first to be booted out.

- So there exists an uneasy alliance between the two, in order to deflect anger arising out of the cesspit of poverty and misery in which the masses live in.

- This is done by inflating the alleged 'atrocities' happening against the Muslims in kuffar lands. This keeps the masses constantly on edge and grateful for belonging to a Muslim majority country. Any mass leader who dares to challenge this brainwashing/narrative/siege mentality is denounced for spreading fitna amongst pious Muslims and killed off.

To Conclude: here is a member from presumably well educated and wealthy family from the poorest country on Indian subcontinent, can he enlighten us what he is doing for improving the conditions of thousands of poor Bangladeshis who die because of poverty, disease, and hunger? Can he also tell us why, millions of Bangladeshis prefer to be 'oppressed' in bhookha, nanga India rather than practicing their faith freely in Bangladesh ?

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To Conclude: here is a member from presumably well educated and wealthy family from the poorest country on Indian subcontinent, can he enlighten us what he is doing for improving the conditions of thousands of poor Bangladeshis who die because of poverty, disease, and hunger? Can he also tell us why, millions of Bangladeshis prefer to be 'oppressed' in bhookha, nanga India rather than practicing their faith freely in Bangladesh ?
1.According to Sashi Tharoor, Indian diplomat/politician/writer/intellectual India is Super Poor, not a super power.

2. According to Indian PM half of India is under the Maoists. Add Kashmir and NE to that and the Brahmonic oligarchy of Delhi is left with one-third of Hindustan to rule.

3. According to IMO one million illegal Indians enter the West every year.

4. The poverty in India is so acute that last year, according GOI figures, 14,000 farmers were forced to commit suicide. That's an improvement GOI says. The year before it was 15,000 farmers.

5. According to Indian Nobel Laureate Amartya Sen BD has the most thriving economy and Human Development Index in SA. He advised Indian planners to go to BD and learn from them.

6. We are the world leaders in RMG. We have many other exports. There is absolutely no unemployment. The literacy rate among the under 30 is almost reaching 100%. That includes female also. For years we have been self-sufficient in food with a population of 160 mlln. We have even been exporting some aromatic rice, potato and other food items.

7. Now why the hell will our citizens risk crossing Indian border barbed wire fencing and the trigger-happy animals called BSF? We are a peaceful society with plenty of work and no shortage of essentials - which is just the opposite to what Hindustan has. Why should we go to a land of infidel kafirs from a Dar ul Islam? Why should a Muslim go to a hell where Muslims are massacred at every opportunity?

8. Has anyone ever seen/heard of a single illegal BD citizen being identified, rounded up and pushed back from India? Not even once. Never. And why? Simply because there isn't a single BD citizen foolish enough to leave his peaceful happy home to a hell hole called Hindustan full of insurgents, killings, bombs and frightful looking sadhus with pierced cheeks and tongues. We love beef and in some Indian states cow slaughter is a capital punishment. Spare us, we don't want to go to such a dreadful place.

9. Indians are big mouths and blabber a lot. They are nothing. Just hollow from inside. The Muslims of SA await the arrival of another Ahmed Shah Baba.
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^ Blah blah .. who said anything about a superpower, typical verbal diarrhea by an uneducated BeeDee who can't read when I described India as bhookha nanga.

So, Mujahid miyan, you didn't answer my question . Why do razakarites like you don't do anything about the hundreds of thousands of poor BeeDees who die in your country which has the lowest HDI figures in the Indian Subcontinent ? Shouldn't you improve the condition of your compatriots before lecturing other countries how to treat their own citizens ?
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5. According to Indian Nobel Laureate Amartya Sen BD has the most thriving economy and Human Development Index in SA. He advised Indian planners to go to BD and learn from them.

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Again typical Razakar liar, read the UNDP report. BD languishes at the bottom of the SA
http://hdr.undp.org/en/media/HDR_2011_EN_Complete.pdf

Sri Lanka has highest HDI.
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1.According to Sashi Tharoor, Indian diplomat/politician/writer/intellectual India is Super Poor, not a super power.

2. According to Indian PM half of India is under the Maoists. Add Kashmir and NE to that and the Brahmonic oligarchy of Delhi is left with one-third of Hindustan to rule.

3. According to IMO one million illegal Indians enter the West every year.

4. The poverty in India is so acute that last year, according GOI figures, 14,000 farmers were forced to commit suicide. That's an improvement GOI says. The year before it was 15,000 farmers.

5. According to Indian Nobel Laureate Amartya Sen BD has t most thriving economy and Human Development Index in SA. He advised Indian planners to go to BD and learn from them.

6. We are the world leaders in RMG. We have many other exports. There is absolutely no unemployment. The literacy rate among the under 30 is almost reaching 100%. That includes female also. For years we have been self-sufficient in food with a population of 160 mlln. We have even been exporting some aromatic rice, potato and other food items.

7. Now why the hell will our citizens risk crossing Indian border barbed wire fencing and the trigger-happy animals called BSF? We are a peaceful society with plenty of work and no shortage of essentials - which is just the opposite to what Hindustan has. Why should we go to a land of infidel kafirs from a Dar ul Islam? Why should a Muslim go to a hell where Muslims are massacred at every opportunity?

8. Has anyone ever seen/heard of a single illegal BD citizen being identified, rounded up and pushed back from India? Not even once. Never. And why? Simply because there isn't a single BD citizen foolish enough to leave his peaceful happy home to a hell hole called Hindustan full of insurgents, killings, bombs and frightful looking sadhus with pierced cheeks and tongues. We love beef and in some Indian states cow slaughter is a capital punishment. Spare us, we don't want to go to such a dreadful place.

9. Indians are big mouths and blabber a lot. They are nothing. Just hollow from inside. The Muslims of SA await the arrival of another Ahmed Shah Baba.
And Bharati baba waits the natural extinction of bangladesh
Razakar , liar hypocrite


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^ Blah blah .. who said anything about a superpower, typical verbal diarrhea by an uneducated BeeDee who can't read when I described India as bhookha nanga.

So, Mujahid miyan, you didn't answer my question . Why do razakarites like you don't do anything about the hundreds of thousands of poor BeeDees who die in your country which has the lowest HDI figures in the Indian Subcontinent ? Shouldn't you improve the condition of your compatriots before lecturing other countries how to treat their own citizens ?
Who wants to argue with a guy whose Father of the Nation was a GANDOO?

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And Bharati baba waits the natural extinction of bangladesh
Razakar , liar hypocrite
Poor chap can't see what he is writing. There is no power.


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