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View Poll Results: Given a choice, would you:
Be guided by conscience if it meant breaking the law 4 100.00%
Follow the law, because a break leads to anarchy 0 0%
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Default Conscience or Law? - 04-01-2011, 11:19 AM

Conscience or Law?

What are you guided by? Would you compromise one to follow the other?

Considering that some great people and some fabled people were known to have actively broken laws because of their beliefs, how right/wrong were they?

Consider people like Robin of Sherwood who reputedly stole from the rich to share amongst the poor, Nelson Mandela who was incarcerated for a significant part of his life under terrorism charges, Gandhi who was instrumental, despite periods of time in jail, for leading a civil disobedience programme and our beloved Bacha Khan, who driven by conscience spent 1/3 of his life in prison.

Arguably, all broke the law at some point. Would you be prepared to do that for something you believed in?



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Default 04-01-2011, 11:31 AM

haha... tor_khan, predictable results.
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Default 07-14-2012, 11:48 PM

Interestingly enough, I do not follow any of the two.

Laws I disobey, unless its Shari`ah or the exact law also exists in Shari`ah.

Conscience I do not have.


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Default 07-14-2012, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
Fine, I will be the first to spill the beans.
I am allergic to authority figures. You dont even have to enforce the law on me or remind me of the rules. The minute I realize they exist I get this desire to defy them. It doesnt even have to satisfy my coscions or reward me otherwise.
I know I am setting a bad example and I might die over a silly reason and that this post may offend you people but I dont see the point of pretending to be remorseful when I am not. And I am not saying this because people deserve to know them truth. This is simply how it is.
I also do not accept any authority over me but I don't get the urge to break rules for the sake of it.


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Default 07-15-2012, 12:34 AM

This is a really good topic, tor khan, but I feel you picked some unfair examples for people to compare to. All of them revolve around great injustices and, as such, do warrant for behavior that would qualify as being outside of the law. After all, even as Muslims, we are required to combat injustice and do our best to prevent it.

However, I strongly believe that in standard conditions, the rule of law must be held to be supreme. It is of no consequence that countries, not unlike the ones we hail from, are suffering the most, simply because people fail to uphold the law.

As an example, consider Intellectual Property laws. Afghanistan has no laws on copyright. Furthermore, it is not a member state in any kind of treaty with regards to Intellectual Property. This means that any literary, musical, architectural work, as well as software source code produced in Afghanistan is not only unprotected within Afghanistan itself, but can also be freely taken to any other nation and used there, without paying the original creator (in Afghanistan) a single penny.

Of course, the root cause of this all is the fact that Afghanistan has not implemented any laws of this sort within its boundaries, but what makes it worse is that people would ignore laws of this kind even if they were implemented.

The fact that one's work would not be protected (preventing one from receiving one's due credit/payment for it) is highly discouraging for anyone. This leads to less innovation in a country, which leads to less manufacturing, less industry, and so on and so forth.

Protecting Intellectual Property is just one example. I am sure everyone can think of several analogous concepts.

So in short, I strongly believe that upholding the law is paramount to the success of a nation.
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Default 07-15-2012, 08:00 AM

conscience is preferable but still it depends on the situation. You can't ignore laws all the time for conscience.
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Default 07-15-2012, 03:24 PM

I'm not surprised that 100% of the voters have chosen to follow their consciences as opposed to the law. Pashtun society is inherently individualistic which, no doubt has its pros, is also hindering at the same time.

We're plagued by everyone wanting to be the leader, and pave the way as they see fit. It's like the saying, "Too many chiefs, not enough Indians."

If everyone chooses to simply follow their own consciences, there is too much fragmentation, which leads to a poorer infrastructure in society. Again, this is something our society suffers from, and something that only (people adhering to) the rule of law can remedy.
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Default 07-28-2012, 02:17 AM

Why does it have to be one or the other? Wouldn't conscious be a sort of personal law or principles?
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Default 07-28-2012, 01:38 PM

Conscience is a subjective feeling/perception whereas law most of the time embodies/expresses the collective moral-ethical view/stance of the society, which, therefore, is likely to be more objective. So, I will obey the law of the land. However, there can be the possibility that something in the law is not right(for many people). I will try to change that through political means/ways but will not break the law.

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Default 07-28-2012, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by حکیم خان اورګونی View Post
I also do not accept any authority over me but I don't get the urge to break rules for the sake of it.
This is the sort of free spirit commended in a video I saw earlier this week on the arbitrary nature of state authority I'm Allowed to Rob You: I'm Allowed to Rob You! - YouTube


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