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Thumbs down Benefits of Democracy : Iraq has executed 65 people in 2012 alone - 02-09-2012, 12:24 PM

Iraq executed 14 people on a single day this week, most of them Al-Qaeda members, a senior justice ministry official said on Wednesday, bringing to at least 65 the number of executions so far this year.
"Fourteen Iraqis were executed yesterday (Tuesday)," the official said, asking not to be named. "They were convicted of terrorism and other crimes committed in 2006 and 2007."
"Most of them are from Al-Qaeda, among them the wali (leader) of Mosul," the official said.

The hangings bring the number of people executed in the first six weeks of this year close to the total of 68 for all of 2011.
Iraq executed 17 people on January 31, Justice Minister Hassan al-Shammari was quoted in a statement at the time as saying.
Before those executions, ministry spokesman Haidar al-Saadi said the authorities had so far hanged 34 people this year, including two women and a Syrian.

UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay has expressed shock at the number of executions, criticising the lack of transparency in court proceedings and calling for an immediate suspension of the death penalty.
"I call on the government of Iraq to implement an immediate moratorium on the institution of the death penalty," she said last month.
"Even if the most scrupulous fair trial standards were observed, this would be a terrifying number of executions to take place in a single day," said Pillay, a South African high court judge.
Death sentences in Iraq must be signed by the country's president, currently Jalal Talabani, but the chief executive may delegate that authority to either of the two vice presidents. As Talabani is an ardent opponent of the death penalty, that is what he does.


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Default 02-09-2012, 12:29 PM

What about the benefits of Sharia in Saudi Arabia where women get lashed for being raped, women get lashed for driving a car, now a Saudi writer called Kashgari writes his own views on Islam, and hes been called to have his head removed.

Iraq is plauged with religious sectarism, not the fault of Democracy, but the fault of Clerics who you admire Afghanistan2010.

If NATO did not invade, it would have not been long before those Islamists from Sunni and Shia backgrounds would have taken the fight further, with the Kurds yearning for freedom too so the future of Iraq would have been dim anyway.

Afghanistan2010 you like to always point the fingers at the West and the Non-Muslims, but why dont you fess up, be a man and speak out against the Muslims who go into Markets and blow themselves up all over IRAQ because a Cleric told them to do so.
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Default 02-09-2012, 12:31 PM

Look at your Akhi Al Arab....he admires Osama and hates Shia's........there are 1000s of them in Iraq! your telling me Iraq would be peaceful with such vile hateful people like Al-Arab....no wonder he wants to go Afghanistan, so he can break it more and infest it with people like you.......we need more containers and more dostums.
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Default 02-09-2012, 12:56 PM

Oh how beautifully you lied !

There were no sectarian wars in Iraq before the U.S invasion.


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Default 02-10-2012, 02:48 PM

Brother Afghanistan2010.

This is unfortunately the new reality of Iraq at the hands of the Rafidah puppet Al-Maliki. This has been going on for long.

I can only say that autrocities against Sunni Arabs and Kurds are happening daily by the hands of these puppets in prison where they have been apprehended.

When the bodyguards of our vicepresident, Tariq al-Hashimi can be apprehended because of false lies of terrorism then nobody who opposes the regime is safe.

We hear about the Arab Spring in Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Yemen etc. but this so-called Spring did initially also happen in Iraq but was brutally stoped by force.

We are facing in many ways a worse rule than in most Arab countries because of the secterian violence (inflicted by Rafidah Iran) and openly anti-Sunni and anti-Kurd stance by the new regime.

These 65 executions (90 percent were Sunnis who were "accused" of "terrorism") is a little drop in the ocean of what has been happening for years now since the 2006-2007 civil war.

Soldat-communist:

Stop insulting Almighty Allah (swt) law. You should know better than write such stupid posts on a Pashtun forum where most users are devout Muslims and respect their traditions and values something you apparently has lost due to too much drinking of beer in England I suspect and brainwashing by your western masters.

Again you hear only about Saudi Arabia through Jewish controlled Western news. What do you expect to hear?

This Kashgari is an criminal and is well known. He is not even Arab but of Iranian descent.

You have completely no idea of why secterianism has started in Iraq.

Kurds had autonomy even under Saddam and a lot of Kurds were in the government and since 2003 they have their autonomy still. But they are a small part of the population (15 percent) and their autonomy is on very little territory. (under 10 percent of Iraq's territory)

You also like to twist my words when I talked about OBL.

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The 9/11 was nothing in comparison of what the usa government has been doing for decades. It is just a little drop of rain in a big sea in comaparison.

It was only big news because it was usa, new york and because the attack exploited how weak the security of usa really was.

You can hate or like OBL but there is no doubt that he was a man of principals that fought for a greater cause and not his own greed unlike all the former and current puppet regimes in the Muslim world. For that and other things he will have my respect although I condemn attacks on innocent civilians.

As the western saying says (I think) one man's terrorist another man's freedom fighter.

If people really knew how greedy, evil and murderous the us government
has been for decades then they would understand the attack and applaud it as some of the oppressed Muslims in the Ummah did.

I see no big condemation in the west when Israel kill civlians Palestinians or when so-called "carriers of democracy" and it's soldiers kill civilian Iraqis and Afghans for the fun of it.

Where is the outcry because of the Haditha, similar massacres in Afghanistan or the massacres done by us puppets in the Arab and Muslim world?

Only when it does not suit them they help remove their old friends as
recently seen (Egypt, Tunisia, Libya etc.)

And this discussion is not about this subject so please do not derail this thread.
I was talking about him as an person with clear principals that were understandable and noble as a consequence of american foreing policy and their mass killings of Muslims and destruction of Muslim countries due to their policy. And also as an person who was not a puppet of anybody and did sacrifice his life for a bigger cause than just being an regular rich Arab in the Middle East preaching Islam but gooing to Beirut in the weekends to get drunk like the Al-Saud did and do.

But of course you will not understand this and prefer to be a puppet of your Western masters because you have been brainwashed by them.

You will also not understand why resistance groups have a very strong support in Sunni Arab parts of Iraq. This is due to the unjustice and killings they have suffered from since 2003 by the americans and puppet government. They are wise enough to see where their country is heading to (Rafidah Iranian influence).

But Alhamdulillah Saudi Arabia and Qatar and it's population (apart from Al-saud) are helping us and preventing this from happening in every aspect together with the UAE and other wealthy Arab countries.

The secterian violence started when the usa, much like in afghanistan, made an deal with Iran to stir up secterian violence and then blame the Sunnis so they become marginalized. After that they put a puppet government in power that was both friendly towards usa and Iran and now both usa and Iran are happy as both countries have influence in Iraqi politics and future.

Just like usa and pakistan initially made a deal to divide Afghanistan.

I and brother GraveYardofEmpires proved that policy when we provided links.

But people like you are stupid to believe american and iran propaganda and don't question the fact that secterian violence was unheard of in Iraq (at the scale we have seen since the Iraq war) and that many families intermarried despite being Sunni or Shia because both are Arabs and Iraqis.

You blame us Sunni Iraqis for standing up against the american and iranian plot by the resistance? Ever wondered why the Shias only had a few resistance group apart from the Mahdi Army?

It is easy to understand. Simply because the current Iraqi puppet government suit them and their agenda of a closer relationship to their Rafidah brother's in Iran and therefore a marginalization of Sunnis that consists 50 percent of the population (when Kurds are included).

You the person who talk about Pakistan and their interference in Afghanistan should know the same is happening in Iraq just with Iranian influnce.

It is simple divide and rule policy.
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Have you run away as always Soldat?
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