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Arrow Deadliest month for U.S. in Afghanistan marked by riots outside embassy - 07-31-2010, 11:16 AM






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July is officially the deadliest month for U.S. troops in the 9-year-old war in Afghanistan. President Obama is set to review his war strategy in December.
Washington - The U.S. monthly death toll in Afghanistan rose to its highest level in nine years of war yesterday as Afghans rioted outside the American embassy in Kabul.

NATO officials said six U.S. troops were killed in several incidents Thursday and yesterday, raising the American death toll in July to 66. The previous monthly high was in June, when 60 were killed.


Total U.S and allied deaths in July reached 89, compared with 102 in June - the first time NATO monthly fatalities have reached triple digits.


In the latest incidents, a U.S. service member died in an insurgent attack and two others were killed by a roadside bomb in southern Afghanistan.


U.S. military officials also confirmed that three U.S. troops were killed Thursday in the south in two separate roadside bombings.


In Kabul, local police fired their weapons into the air to disperse a crowd of Afghans chanting "death to America" as they rioted outside the U.S. Embassy.


The Afghans threw stones and set two vehicles ablaze after a NATO SUV driven by two U.S. contractors was involved in a traffic accident that killed four Afghans.


DynCorp International confirmed that its employees, working on a program sponsored by the State Department, were involved in the accident.
In a statement, DynCorp said "Our condolences go out to the families of those who were killed or injured. An investigation is under way."


The Associated Press reported that Ahmad Jawid, an Afghan at the scene, asked: "Are we not Muslims? Are we not from Afghanistan? Infidels are here and they are ruling us. Why?"


As the tempo of the allied war effort against Taliban insurgents has escalated in recent months, U.S. commanders have warned that American casualties were likely to increase.


President Obama has ordered a comprehensive review of his war strategy in December after Gen. David Petraeus, the new commander in Afghanistan, has reassessed the situation on the ground.


Obama wants to begin withdrawing some troops next summer, but some commanders believe that would be unwise given the strength of the insurgency.
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Default 07-31-2010, 11:23 AM

there are some Pashtun Nationalists who will claim that the protestors in front of American embassy were ISI spies and Saudi sponsored wahhabis.
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Default 07-31-2010, 11:30 AM

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there are some Pashtun Nationalists who will claim that the protestors in front of American embassy were ISI spies and Saudi sponsored wahhabis.
Well,
Pashtu ke yow matal dai "Gwara gwara kawa, khola ba de khwaga wee"
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Default 07-31-2010, 11:46 AM

^^ good point,
Not the US FORCES though, because US forces were never busy making infrastructure to being with, they killed and rapped. US civilians should stay and clean the mess up, under the supervision of Afghans....Either way, they are going to leave like their fore-fathers did, with their tails between their legs.
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Default 07-31-2010, 12:18 PM

Taliban didn't claim to be the advocates of democracy and Reconstruction macho men, the US did and that's why they bombed and killed 100x thousands of Afghans . Have you paid attention, everyone pointing towards the Taliban era. This is wrong, Taliban never destroyed Afghanistan, their ideologies might have been mixed up, but the left Kabul in better position than they got it. Afghanistan had been through years of soviet-war and civil wars when Taliban took over, anyone else would have had the same results. People tend to make Taliban look like they are responsible for the ruins or Kabul etc. They were a party like any other Mujahid factions, except for that the Taliban were new and didn't believe in materialism up to most extreme (which was also wrong).
Who says in Taliban era there were no schools? I went to school during the Taliban era, there were problems with women's education. But, that was prior to the Taliban also, there was no infrastructure or balance when the took over. The country was divided into 5-7 parts, with each part being controlled by different ideologies and non cared about the well being of Afghans. Do you remember the peaceful atmosphere during the Taliban era? With the crippled economy of theirs they started to build the Kabul-Kandahar highway (untill their machinery and team got bombed by US b-52s).
The US might say we spend 40 billion or what not. But, that doesn't mean we're going to nod our heads and agree. US is spending all that money IN Afghanistan, not on Afghans but rather their own soldiers. Do you know what their daily military expensis are? $ 100 million dollars a day both Iraq and Afghanistan. We are not responsible for how they spend their money, just because they spend billions on their miltary killing Afghans, doesn't mean the cause is good and the money goes into good hands. The aid money is no where to be seen. you think a couple of 10 story buildings in Downtown kabul, herat, Nangarhar, Kandahar, Khost or Mazar means rebuilding? NO. And, even those are controlled by certain groups that are based off of US (Karzai and Rahim Wardak family). The sums that we hear or see on media doesn't even make it past words and paper, everything goes back to US and the circle goes on. Look at women's rights, orphans, widows, poverty, violence, bloodshed and the list goes on..Who to hold responsible? SOMEONE caused this, and someone has to clean after this mess (regardless, if they are going to or not, THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE from every angle). Because, they destroyed the so called "Islamic Emarate" promising people with happier and brighter lives, where is all that good talk?
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Default 07-31-2010, 12:25 PM

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Zarawar lets be realistic.

the US has spent almost 40billion in Afghanistan.

in Taliban era there were no schools now we have a record number of students in school.
Realistic? How about you waking up from your barbie-doll fantasy.

The 40 billion was spent on this:

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Default 07-31-2010, 12:52 PM

deera kha news di, Its about time they leave our people alone and get lost.
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Default 07-31-2010, 08:24 PM

The video clip is so awful. They are LAUGHING at the destruction and killing while they are on a bombing mission?

The mentalities of the Americans who are deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan is dangerously sick.

Never believe any of 'em care about providing a good life for Afghans.
I bet they never once socialized with a single Afghan family outside of official duties during their stay in-country.

All that talk is to boost their supposed raison d'etre there.

From top generals down to the lowest enlisted personnel, the NATO forces have no interest in any reconstruction beyond the minimum required to save face before the world.
Watch how fast they get out of any reconstruction work. There will be lots of generous-SOUNDING words, ribbon cuttings at openings of projects splashed all over the media.

But some excuse will be found to abandon all these efforts and leave Afghanistan's civilian life barely any different than it will be when the military withdraws.

The school improvements are probably essentially showcase projects to gain support from world opinion and the American audience. "Everyone" agrees on the need for education.

However, did Americans help with any religious endeavors? I bet not, because they would rather religion be stamped out.

Any relatively developed country in the world can install brand new educational institutions; it doesn't have to be America. That can be done any time when there is enough peace.

More important, I assume, though as an outsider, would be to ensure security, power, and such basics.
After all, students CAN study textbooks at home, but they can't do without critical essentials of life.

Does not sound like much progress has been made overall with regard to these in an incredible NINE YEARS!
This lack of progress underlines the fundamental insincerity of the American rhetoric of being in Afghanistan to ensure better lives for Afghans.

If this little clip is a yardstick, they will have merely deprived Afghans of their lives....
But what goes around comes around, so some day this same treatment may be visited upon American officialdom and those who participated in this horrible war with such cavalier attitudes.

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