Soldout's conversion to Orthodox Christianity - 08-02-2012, 02:51 PM
"CONVERTED", it means a big affair.
Not just a flirtation with the IDEA of converting.
It means he actually went through the ritual of
three-times immersion in a baptismal font [basin]
depending on how traditional the church he went to is.
Minimum he had to say a big statement about how
his previous beliefs were WRONG and
he is so happy to be "NEWLY ILLUMINED" as an
It is a major ritual where he is sprinkled with water,
many prayers repeated. Not a minor ceremony but a huge one.
He probably did this on a lark, out of boredom, perhaps.
But it's a formal rejection of Islam and a
very serious entrance into a completely different realm
So Soldout, did you venerate the icons in that probably
Serbian Orthodox Church in London, or wherever?
You must have received Communion ?
Don't you realize that you will have not only billions of Muslims
but millions of Orthodox Christians enraged at
your sacrilegious behavior ?
But you know, you love theatricality so maybe if you could
just keep up the act of being Orthodox,
they just MAY canonize you as a Saint for your daring "conversion"
from Islam -- you wouldn't be the first.
There was Ahmed the Calligrapher of Istanbul a few centuries ago,
still admired by them today.
So here's your chance for that celebrity you've been scheming
for all these years !
Go on tour and give speeches to Orthodox communities
and believe me, you will be fawned over by press and public
as a great hero. So, are you going to sell your soul to the
Devil yet again and do this ?
08-02-2012, 07:38 PM
This thread does not really deserve to sit in the Religion section of the forum, which by and large contains articles that further our knowledge of Islam and other comparative religions. But, for what its worth, right now this thread stays - at least to offer the subject the right of redress.
In my opinion most of the "billions of Muslims" mentioned in Ms Sher's post are trying to scratch their livelihoods together to 'enraged' about a mindless posting on the internet that cannot really be verified against a genuine action. Whether Soldat has gone through a formal conversion or whether it was all just bravado to seek approval - he knows best. His 'error' probably lies more in the latter, but I still smell a rat.
The flip-flop approach to religion lacks a certain maturity, so I stick to my opinion about one individual coming across as slightly confused. I didn't attribute this directly to him, but mentioned that this news was being picked up by others via social media.
But that isn't the rat. The rat is the intention of the person who set up this thread. On the one hand, (and whilst I don't agree with his tactic) it could be said that the Member who flip-flops his religious/anti-religious identity on a frequent basis is at least not hiding this matter. However, the person who sets up this thread and writes that billions of Muslims on this planet are "enraged" has NEVER ONCE been publicly honest about their own religious identity vis-a-vis Pashtuns nor their justifications for trying to inflame others into reaction.
08-02-2012, 08:16 PM
conversion is one thing, but i dont understand why he feels the pain of russians and serbians so much and not others. what about the thousands and thousands of innocent bosnian families killed by serbians or what about the millions of people from afghanistan to chechnya killed by russians?
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08-03-2012, 07:52 AM
please ....call them serbian terrorists,i only know a few who can admit the atrocities.Everyone who deny,hit him on his nose,that it (bone) shatters later if he bleeds,hit him in his face until you are tired and your hands tainted with his blood.
08-03-2012, 11:59 AM
What about Albanians or the people of Kosovo?
Anyway, since Soldat lives in England and seems to have renounced his Pashtun identity and does not live under Islamic law then I guess he can do what he pleases. What is unnecessary is to lie about what he says or believes it. Then don't tell anything at all. How hard can it be?
Anyway I don't think he will change his approach to Islam and Muslims. It seems that he has strong opinions from whatever sources.
Anyway I understand that some Pashtuns find him and his views as a disgrace towards Pashtuns but let me tell you this. He is not the first or last Pashtun to have such beliefs. Similar can be found in all Muslim countries especially in the West.
Some people tell me that Muslims in the West are becoming like Westerness (less religious or sometimes not religious at all but more cultural).
Ultimately he is responsible for himself in this life and that which will follow no matter what we do.
I saw some of his videos long ago and some of the articles he posted but they were filled with wrong information and he was also caught. Since then it has been the same rhetoric.
I guess he is still strugling with his identity that's a pretty normal thing.
As I once said, he sometimes have true and good points but the second after he tells those few points the rest of his speaches are filled with hatred/bias etc. which destroys the good he says.
Yes, Soldat-Amir please call me what you like as you use to do and call Iraq and Saudi Arabia the same names as you always do. It only reflects on yourself and nobody else if you read this and reply.
08-03-2012, 12:03 PM
well , what should i say to this .
i really have to apologize to some people on the board here , because i defendet him on some times here .
i was wrong , thou even some of the things he said were true to some degree ,
i thought his islam bashing was the result of lack of education or awareness and confusion ....
but that he converted to orthodox christianity , not enough that he converted to christianity but of all this christian sects orthodox one , i can not even find the words to describe it .
on the first moment i had to laugh , on the second i was really shocked how the hell he came to be an icon woreshipping russki.....
i could have understand that he became atheist , even his islam bashing was out of question wrong !!!!
but to become an orthodox christian and then bash islam is some kind of sick ....
i looked up his facebook account and found this pic
a military chest rig , with a british flag on !!!!!!!!
the flag of the enemies of our forefathers .......
i can not belive that this person is sane or in mentally healty state of mind ....
08-03-2012, 12:31 PM
LOL, that's the case with most of such people I assume.
Has he become "famous" (LOL) in the Pashtun internet community outside of Afghanistan? It looks like so. Maybe that's his goal. To provoke people.
Khostai: You should see his intial claims of being in Iraq and Checyna and killing so-called terrorists/fanatics there. Said he was a member of spetznatz (or how it's spelled) and that he was in some kind of regiment in Iraq and was in a division that killed an local Al-Qaeda member or something along those lines.
Would you believe it, LOL.
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