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Default 09-07-2017, 09:53 PM

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There is another Sahih Bukhari hadith people bring up saying there is a contradiction.

Narrated by Abdullah ibn Umar (RA): Once the Prophet led us in the 'Isha' prayer during the last days of his life and after finishing it (the prayer) (with Taslim) he said: "Do you realize (the importance of) this night?" Nobody present on the surface of the earth tonight will be living after the completion of one hundred years from this night." -- Sahih Bukhari (1.116)

People will say this contradicts the Quranic verses about Gog and Magog

He said: ‘That (wealth, authority and power) in which my Lord has established me is better (than your tribute). So help me with strength (of men), I will erect between you and them a barrier.

Give me pieces (blocks) of iron,’ then, when he had filled up the gap between the two mountain-cliffs, he said, ‘Blow,’ till when he had made it (red as) fire, he said, ‘Bring me molten copper to pour over it.’

So they [Ya’jooj and Ma’jooj] were made powerless to scale it or dig through it.

(Dhu’l-Qarnayn) said: ‘This is a mercy from my Lord, but when the Promise of my Lord comes, He shall level it down to the ground. And the Promise of my Lord is ever true.’”

Surah Kahf 18:93-98

There is no contradiction as the Prophet (peace be upon him) clearly says surface and not the unseen or beneath a barrier. Just brought this up as an example.
I haven't really read too much about this or discussed it.
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Default 09-07-2017, 10:26 PM

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Kiash, I'm a layman so I don't know.

According to the Hadith, The prophet(pbh) was Affected by Magic so therefore, according to the Ayat, one concludes that the wrongdoers are right. From this line of thinking, people that challenge Islam would also make claims that if the prophet(pbh) was affected by magic, then how can we know what ayat is correct and what ayat is the work of magic.
If there was more instances of the Prophet (PBUH) being affected by anything they would be more hadiths about it. This was one instance, and only one narrator. There are numerous hadiths that are the same with different narrators

If you read all the hadiths, all the Prophets (PBUH) saying are consistent and their isn't any that could be out of character.

The Quran is also consistent with it's message. There isn't a verse where someone can even point to it and say this person is under magic, insane or even intoxicated.

edit @maneatinglizards also posted an informative pdf about this topic https://ia902707.us.archive.org/2/it...iUsmaniRah.pdf (starting on page 510)

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Magic is not real.
You dum niggahs need to grow up.
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Magic is not real.
I agree with you. Magic is unreal. Magic cannot even effect an ordinary person much less a Prophet of God. The story about Prophet ﷺ being affected by a magic spell are all concocted fabricated tales. I have written extensively on this topic in my blog رَبَّ جِبْرِيلَ وَمِيكَائِيلَ وَإِسْرَافِيلَ أَعِذْنِي مِنْ حَرِّ النَّارِ وَعَذَابِ الْقَبْرِ: Magic
I mentioned in my intro that I am highly influenced by Allama Ahmad Said Chitrori (rahmatullah alaih). He too denied the reality of magic and said anyone who believes in it is guilty of Kufr. Regrettably, the major masalik like Deobandi, Barelwi and Ahle Hadith all believe that magic is real and that the Prophet ﷺ was affected by a magic spell from a second-rate Jewish sorcerer. They blindly follow some isolated Hadith of Bukhari and ignore the plain verdict of Holy Quraan and Sunna. Allama Ahmad Said Chitrori once challenged all the magicians and sorcerers of the world to gather and do their worst magic on him, they will not even be able to make a single hair fall off of his head! Magic is nothing but deception and illusion as illustrated in the story of the duel between Prophet Moses and the pharaonic magicians. The satanic industry of amulets and talismans is based on the doctrine of the reality of magic. The only way to shut it down is to persuade the public that magic is unreal and they are selling their Faith by hanging such idolatrous amulets to ward off from magic spells.

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