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| Check what out? That non-Pukhtoons call themselves Afghans? Then it's only a good news because an identity which they felt was forced on them in the beginning is starting to sound loving in their ears. Aren't you happy for us? ![]() You asking me for forum links? Don't tell me the image Pakistanis got of Afghan Pukhtoons is all because of forums!? Besides, I don't even need to show you forums; Target killing in Karachi, displaced Swatis who weren't let in in Punjab, etcetera is more than enough. Even Pakhtunkzai from this forum told me how ill Pukhtoons in his village in Punjab are being treated. Ask him yourself. Quote:
As I said, you as a Pakistani wouldn't know that because you have got NO idea how much time Iranians have! There was even this entire Iranian group who actually went through Afghan members' channels, observed who talked ill of Iran and commented on their page that Afghan member as a 'Iranian hater', LOL. That's how much they have got! Quote:
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What exactly was said right by him? The fact that Pukhto has no importance in Kabul?; Which is false. The fact he says Pukhtoons are still being mistreated in North?; Which is false. The fact he says Afghans never ever tried to fight for Pakhtunkhwa?; Which is false. The fact he says he hates Pakistan but never ever stated why he hates Pakistan and nor made any comment against them?; Which is another lie. How exactly has he ever been right, except for insulting and frustrated? |
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The Pakhtuns of Pakhtunkhwa are not comfortable with this group. This is at par with the Punjabi group in Pakistan. Btw who will you choose to be your partners if asked? |
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Your argument would have held weight if we were confined to a tajik state and panjab state on both sides. However this is not the case. Neither historically nor contemporary. I am from Pashtunkhwa too...I think I do have some right to represent myself. They are not at par with Pakistan, they have no army, no bureacracy, no intelligence, not even a concept of foreign policy. Are they good? no. Are they the same as the state of Pakistan? no, never. They have to be treated separately. |
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How can you develop your areas when your Afghan government is ruled by Tajiks, obviously they will choose their own first and Pashtuns third. The ethinic issue has to be taken seriously if you want to take pashtun issues seriously. Do you think its good to tell Pashtuns to divide from Pakistan but your citizens continue to give dari the upper hand and darizubans better positions in government while pashtuns are left with nothing. How can you bring a Issue of a ethinic called Pashtuns without discussing other ethinic groups? Afghanistan is not a country, it had its prime time and that was all used up by the Durranis when they controlled and only gave the benefits to their own tribe. Now times have changed, all pashtuns should be seen as equals and our identity is Pashtun, Nationalities come and go and its time both Pakistani and Afghan should be placed with the Past. We need to move on with life. no one is buying into this Lar o Bar Afghan when infact where was this slogan when Afghans sold us for 12 lakh a year. I dont mean to be offensive or rant on in any way but these are solid facts, Afghanistan for the last decades have done nothing for the unification of Pashtun, the whole Pashtunistan issue only came when Paksitan become a established state, so where was the concern before it, afghanistan had on my occasions great chances to reclaim its so called land but it didint and not its too late. Kind Regards |
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The Peshawer Seven were not forced by Pakistan to offer its services.When Pashtuns of Pashtunkhwa were serious in their Pashtunistan cause, you guys as usual betrayed us and left when the issue got serious and hot, then your own nationals and clerics formed the peshawer seven. You wont let go of those Terrorities inhabited by non Pashtuns in afghanistan, you favor Tajiks over Pashtuns so why should we in Pakistan prefer to join Afghanistan or accept you as one of us? Iam being logical here. You can do the blaime game all you want, but the cultural capital of all Pashtuns is Pashtunkhwa not Pasnhir valley nor Kabul. There has been nooooo serious action taken by Afghanistan to reclaim those so called areas it wants. It only uses the Pashtun card when it feels like and then does one when it gets serious. I am in process of writing an article on this very soon and i will post it with clear evidence of this betrayl. |
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A 60 percent of Afghan Parliament being Pashtun is false. How can you use a few government positions as your source just because they are Pashtun. 50 percent of your country speaks Dari, Pashtuns in afghanistan choose dari over Pushto, so you will use them as your source also? There are 1000s of Pashtuns in Afghanistan who prefer Dari over Pushto even Dawazai said Pashtuns dont want to learn Pushot they prefer Dari. The media and the educational board teach afghans in Dari which is the language of the Tajik. No matter how many souces you use this wont ignore the fact that your ruler and king sold half of pashtuns out to the British. Pashtuns of Pashtunkhwa realised that they are not accepted as afghans, what gives you the right to re write history just because your country is failing and been abused by pakistan at your own will so you want all this unity talk all this lar o bar non sense, where was lar o bar when Pakistan went to war with India? or when Faqir of ipi was fighting for a Pashtunistan? |
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