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Default 02-13-2018, 09:36 AM

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For those who want to believe that Ashraf Ghaniís support was rejected, listen to the reaction when one of the speakers thanks Ghani for his support:

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The Pakistani reaction to this march was embarrassing. They practically ignored it until Ghani tweeted about it, then rushed in for damage control, and got some of their ghulam tribal elders to reject Ghani and make pro-Pakistani statements to calm the nerves of the nationalists. All this when anyone following the protests could see that it clearly wasnít a patriotic movement. The speeches were trashing the army and other government institutions. People got obsessed with that short ďlar aw barĒ chant when the entire protest was full of Pashtun unity talk.

All one needs to do is check out the twitters and Facebook of the organizers, and youíll se how they really feel. Hint: thereís no Pakistan Zindabad in sight.

I donít even like Ghani, at all, and yet itís still obvious to me that his support (as well as the support of Afghans in general, including non-Pashtuns) was huge for giving the march attention. Count up the number of news stories before he tweeted about it and after if you donít believe it.
The one in the twitter video is active member of ANP, his name is Muhsin Dawar. There are many Waziristanis in ANP.

The real sufferers i.e the Mahsuds and others whose family members are missing, were not there for irrelevant "lar o bar yo Afghan"" politics of ANP and PKMAP, they were not protesting for sake of Afghanistan........they saw the long march as a chance to put enough pressure on the government so that their people are released, that they are not killed extrajudicial and land mines are cleared from their area. If statements from Ashraf Ghani are helpful in achieving their goals, they will welcome it, if harmful then they will condemn it.
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The one in the twitter video is active member of ANP, his name is Muhsin Dawar. There are many Waziristanis in ANP.

The real sufferers i.e the Mahsuds and others whose family members are missing, were not there for irrelevant "lar o bar yo Afghan"" politics of ANP and PKMAP, they were not protesting for sake of Afghanistan........they saw the long march as a chance to put enough pressure on the government so that their people are released, that they are not killed extrajudicial and land mines are cleared from their area. If statements from Ashraf Ghani are helpful in achieving their goals, they will welcome it, if harmful then they will condemn it.
You are simply lying.
Even though I wouldn't say it was a good thing that ashraf ghani showed support but to say those people are in love with Pakistan is a false statement. I haven't seen one guy say long live Pakistan or waving the napak flag. Many him khans were quite during the protest to wave paki flag or go on with their diatribe against Afghans.
After the protest was over these cucks came out waving their flag and continue their regular napaki attitude.
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You are simply lying.
Even though I wouldn't say it was a good thing that ashraf ghani showed support but to say those people are in love with Pakistan is a false statement. I haven't seen one guy say long live Pakistan or waving the napak flag. Many him khans were quite during the protest to wave paki flag or go on with their diatribe against Afghans.
After the protest was over these cucks came out waving their flag and continue their regular napaki attitude.
Dear Killzai, they were not there to express their love for Pakistan or Afghanistan, they were there to protest about certain things (landmines, extrajudicial killings, missing persons etc) and force the state to stop it. Now why there were "Azadi" and "lar o bar yo Afghan" slogans but no "Pakistan zindabad" slogans in the long march? because they would have looked utter fools in shouting "Pakistan zindabad" in the protest which was against the state terrorism. When a Pakistani protest against load shedding , does he chant WAPDA zindabad?. As pointed out, most likely the flirtation with Afghanistan was done to put the pressure on the government.
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Dear Killzai, they were not there to express their love for Pakistan or Afghanistan, they were there to protest about certain things (landmines, extrajudicial killings, missing persons etc) and force the state to stop it. Now why there were "Azadi" and "lar o bar yo Afghan" slogans but no "Pakistan zindabad" slogans in the long march? because they would have looked utter fools in shouting "Pakistan zindabad" in the protest which was against the state terrorism. When a Pakistani protest against load shedding , does he chant WAPDA zindabad?. As pointed out, most likely the flirtation with Afghanistan was done to put the pressure on the government.
you are the guy that has this weird blog going on right where you claiming that pashtun tribes are turkic descent or crap like that and you take the claim from british or foreign sources.who ever this killzai is but looks like you are the bigger troll here.
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The one in the twitter video is active member of ANP, his name is Muhsin Dawar. There are many Waziristanis in ANP.

The real sufferers i.e the Mahsuds and others whose family members are missing, were not there for irrelevant "lar o bar yo Afghan"" politics of ANP and PKMAP, they were not protesting for sake of Afghanistan........they saw the long march as a chance to put enough pressure on the government so that their people are released, that they are not killed extrajudicial and land mines are cleared from their area. If statements from Ashraf Ghani are helpful in achieving their goals, they will welcome it, if harmful then they will condemn it.
I know they werenít protesting for Afghanistan. Thatís why I said people were making too much of the lar aw bar chants. My point was that they arenít Afghanistan-hating Pakistan lovers, which is how the Paki nationalists are trying to frame the protests. The fact that all of them are referencing some no-name news source (arabnews.pk? Iíd never even heard of it till now lol) just shows how desperate they were to fish for anything anti-Afghanistan.

And while the speaker in the video is an ANP member, the crowd cheered very loudly for Ghaniís support, and I doubt the crowd was all Afghans/ANP members. I donít think the crowd was doing that only to piss off the Pakistani establishment. Many Waziris took refuge in Afghanistan when the Pakistani military was destroying Waziristan, and those people were not treated like potential terrorists the way they are in Pakistan. I highly doubt those people hate Afghanistan, and itís likely they cheered because they do feel a sense of brotherhood with Afghans that maybe isnít as strong in other Pakistani Pashtuns who are more integrated into Pakistan.

The protests were aimed at the Pakistani establishment, demanding that they end the discriminatory treatment towards Pashtuns. I donít know how many Afghans interpreted the calls for unity between lar and bar Pashtuns as a desire for independence or reunification, but those gestures got the Paki establishment freaking out, so hopefully they take the complaints seriously. Apparently Manzoor Pashteen ended his last speech by warning that thereíd be no difference between Pashtuns and Baloch if the demands were not met, so it seems they arenít shying away from exploiting how worried Pakistan is about ethnic uprisings.
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do i look like the bacha bazi parsiwan that you call father?you parsiwan pakis can go to hell with your usa and your puppet afghan government.
Your experiencing what they call in the addict World is "liquid courage." Once the neesha wears out, you'll be afraid of your own shadow unable to control your farts and bowels.
You praise the Taliban in one post, then Pashtun nationalists in another post, talk like a homosexual and then bring up homosexuality in an irrelevant subject and then talk about parsiwan pakis.

Thats drug addicted homo selling his arse on the streets behavior.
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Your experiencing what they call in the addict World is "liquid courage." Once the neesha wears out, you'll be afraid of your own shadow unable to control your farts and bowels.
You praise the Taliban in one post, then Pashtun nationalists in another post, talk like a homosexual and then bring up homosexuality in an irrelevant subject and then talk about parsiwan pakis.

Thats drug addicted homo selling his arse on the streets behavior.
i like the taliban for their fight against the us american occupiers and their supporters in afghanistan nothing will change that and i know you paki parsiwans or pro americans with your liberal homosexuel attitudes dont like it but thats ok!there is nothing wrong with praising pashtun nationalists like mahmood achakzai or ismael yoon i am a proud pashtun.keep trolling about indics on this forum but i tell you the hindus the indians they have more honor than you parsiwans that dancing for over 16 years to american dollars bacha bazi.by the way i support those afghans that want just one language for afghanistan PASHTO.you salty liberals are a joke for me not better than those gul khans and gul shahs lol cry me a river
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i like the taliban for their fight against the us american occupiers and their supporters in afghanistan nothing will change that and i know you paki parsiwans or pro americans with your liberal homosexuel attitudes dont like it but thats ok!there is nothing wrong with praising pashtun nationalists like mahmood achakzai or ismael yoon i am a proud pashtun.keep trolling about indics on this forum but i tell you the hindus the indians they have more honor than you parsiwans that dancing for over 16 years to american dollars bacha bazi.by the way i support those afghans that want just one language for afghanistan PASHTO.you salty liberals are a joke for me not better than those gul khans and gul shahs lol cry me a river
You do realize that Pashtun nationalists and Taliban clash with each other and most Taliban don't really care about promoting the Pashto language, at least that's not what their fight is about. Also Indians and Parsiwans are allies.

Youre a confused homo drug addict. Stay off the drugs, stop selling your arse on the streets and get some education.
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You do realize that Pashtun nationalists and Taliban clash with each other and most Taliban don't really care about promoting the Pashto language, at least that's not what their fight is about. Also Indians and Parsiwans are allies.

Youre a confused homo drug addict. Stay off the drugs, stop selling your arse on the streets and get some education.
I have to disagree
The only time that Pashto was made into language of the government was during taliban. They werent biased like these tie and suite wearing technocrates.
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I have to disagree
The only time that Pashto was made into language of the government was during taliban. They werent biased like these tie and suite wearing technocrates.
That wasnt done by design but more because the leadership were rural pashtuns who did not speak farsi or had very little knowledge of it. They never announced an official language and one of the main reasons that farsiwan hates the Taliban was because it was hard for them to communicate with gov authorities at the time.
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