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I am always wary of the Turkics as a political entity. Based on my intensive study and reflection of Holy Quran and other religious texts, I come to the conclusion that the Turks and Mongols are Gog and Magog. Though they are nominally Muslim, they are a dangerous entity, both historically, and potentially in the future too. They are extremely authoritarian people, as evidenced by the type of regimes and authoritarian political culture dominant in the Central Asian republics, or perhaps that is something they inherited from decades of harsh Soviet rule. These horse eating nomadic hordes are simply too different from us, though they have ruled us for a great part of our history, beginning with the decline of the Abbasids. Based on my study of Islamic apocalypticism, I know that these Turkics will be among the most ardent supporters and soldiers of the coming Antichrist, and their main victims will be the Arabs whom they devastate. Turkey seems to be the leader of the pan-Turanian world; but Turkey's geopolitical agenda, especially in the Middle East, is suspect to say the least. Many Indian-subcontinent Muslims love Turkey and the Turks, and have nostalgia for the Mughals and Ottomans. But I know better that the Ottomans were a horrible and tyrannical empire, the dismantling of which was a blessing for the world of Islam.
Kwas ke laree!!
You know what? To me you Indian peoples are Yajuj wa Majuj... In your whole existence, you guys have done ****.
If you ever go to Turkey, and you forget your Wallet somewhere, I assure you If a Turk picks it up, the wallet be given to you in your hand with everything in tact. So now tell me can you do that in your slum? Heck even in your masjid the people will steal your wallet.
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Kwas ke laree!!
You know what? To me you Indian peoples are Yajuj wa Majuj... In your whole existence, you guys have done ****.
If you ever go to Turkey, and you forget your Wallet somewhere, I assure you If a Turk picks it up, the wallet be given to you in your hand with everything in tact. So now tell me can you do that in your slum? Heck even in your masjid the people will steal your wallet.
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You do realise that the alt-right media is painting a similar image for Afghans in Germany and other countries accepting refugees? Is this really what you want to gloat about?

And a tonne of those groomers were Bangladeshis, mainly because these groomers operated out of takeaways and late-night businesses where they had access to vulnerable girls. Most of these takeaways happen to be run by Bengalis. And similarly, most Taxi businesses are run by Pakistanis and these guys had access to the vulnerable girls. They are criminals and should be dealt with as such without the political witch hunts.

Thousands of politicians, policemen, priests, celebrities, company directors get caught doing the exact same thing. Its not limited to Pakistanis. Please grow up.
Ok I will translate the Pashto part of my P.S. to you(plus read my other comment): From Experience(literally physical interaction I promise by Allah)
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Which history is that? It started with the Aryan invasions and since then we have been raping and plundering your land. End of history/story lol
Aryan invasion has been debunked thoroughly as colonial era trash. Do you even realise that the theory takes into consideration that the earth is 6000 years old? lol, I should have known.

The Indus region is distinct from the Ganges region which is distinct from the Deccan region. The subcontinent is quite complex, if you ever pick up a book that is...

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Ok I will translate the Pashto part of my P.S. to you(plus read my other comment): From Experience(literally physical interaction I promise by Allah)
Honestly, you sound like a pathetic individual. Your wallet experient is equally pathetic and childish, for reasons you would know if you were a grown up.


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Aryan invasion has been debunked thoroughly as colonial era trash. Do you even realise that the theory takes into consideration that the earth is 6000 years old? lol, I should have known.
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"The genetic makeup of the Y chromosome dramatically shifted about 4,000 to 3,800 years ago, the study found. About 17.5 percent of Indian men carry a Y-chromosome subtype, or haplogroup, known as R1, with the haplogroup more dominant in men in the north compared to the south of India."


"One possibility is that a group of horse-riding warriors swept across India, murdered the men and raped or took local women as wives, but not all explanations are that martial, Richards said. For instance, it's possible that whole family units from the Yamnaya migrated to India, but that the men were either able to acquire (or started out with) higher status than local males and thus sired more children with local women, Richards said."

Aryan Invasion May Have Transformed India's Bronze-Age Population
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Some people say Aryans are the original inhabitants of India. What is your view on this theory?

The Aryans came from outside India. We actually have genetic evidence for that. Very clear genetic evidence from a marker that arose on the southern steppes of Russia and the Ukraine around 5,000 to 10,000 years ago. And it subsequently spread to the east and south through Central Asia reaching India. It is on the higher frequency in the Indo-European speakers, the people who claim they are descendants of the Aryans, the Hindi speakers, the Bengalis, the other groups. Then it is at a lower frequency in the Dravidians. But there is clear evidence that there was a heavy migration from the steppes down towards India.

But some people claim that the Aryans were the original inhabitants of India. What do you have to say about this?

"I don't agree with them. The Aryans came later, after the Dravidians."

rediff.com: The Rediff Interview/Dr Spencer Wells
You gonna keep on pushing Hindutva propaganda, or accept what the rest of the world already knows?

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The Indus region is distinct from the Ganges region which is distinct from the Deccan region. The subcontinent is quite complex, if you ever pick up a book that is...
Your cultural patriarch disagrees:

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"Once the water of Sind is crossed, everything is in the Hindustan way (tariq) land, water, tree, rock, people and horde, opinion and custom."

The Babur-nama in English pg. 484
I wonder how much it kills you every time I post this quote.

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Honestly, you sound like a pathetic individual. Your wallet experient is equally pathetic and childish, for reasons you would know if you were a grown up.
You're the guy who came here trying to pretend your culture is Mughal, and then thought you'd win us over by bragging about how many people invite you to their homes, and how great your cooking is. You don't have the right to call anyone else pathetic.
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Which history is that? It started with the Aryan invasions and since then we have been raping and plundering your land. End of history/story lol
The funny thing is this guy is so proud that his ancestors were conquered by Babur that he goes around bragging about Mughal culture and cuisine, and yet he can't accept the idea of Aryan invasion/migration. All because the Aryan migration reminds him of the inescapable fact that he's an Indian, and that Punjab shares its cultural and social history with the rest of India.

He's so allergic to India that he can't even bring himself to say the name of the region Punjab is a part of (notice how he always calls it "the subcontinent" instead of "the Indian subcontinent"?).
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Default 10-16-2017, 08:57 PM

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A few posts earlier you told me to find out why people think like this. Like I said, there is no reasoning with a person like you. Keep up your crusade. It does look desperate.

You still harping on?

Mate you really aren' that smart- your whole post describes your OWN self

You are the one who is in a crusade with your bull**** Mughal theories and everything else that goes with it. I come on here to kill time and catch the occasional laugh when responding to people like you.

Read some of your posts- I think most members here would agree you've had a bucket of "desperate" chucked over you. Get a life and continue working in Chicken shops around the world.
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Lol!
I am sorry i didn't specify but the Post Script wasn't for you.
Anyway, I would also like to conclude that I have very hayadar friends(like 100/10) from Pakistan. Full of respect and are respected by everyone(they deserve it really). Most of them are either Shias, Married or around 30 year old(and +).
I have no data on females from Pakistan(no female friends from Pakistan), but I would say one thing: They seem nice!
It's all good brah.
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The funny thing is this guy is so proud that his ancestors were conquered by Babur that he goes around bragging about Mughal culture and cuisine, and yet he can't accept the idea of Aryan invasion/migration. All because the Aryan migration reminds him of the inescapable fact that he's an Indian, and that Punjab shares its cultural and social history with the rest of India.

He's so allergic to India that he can't even bring himself to say the name of the region Punjab is a part of (notice how he always calls it "the subcontinent" instead of "the Indian subcontinent"?).
Ok. The world is 6000 years old and the Aryans came just after the great flood. Makes sense.

I did not see any reason to associate Punjab with Tamil, Bengali, Assamese regions in the context of Pakistani history. If I do, i will use your beloved term, i.e British India, which I don't mind using because it actually existed. Funny thing is that you harp on about India more than anyone else on this forum. Why so obsessed?


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You still harping on?

Mate you really aren' that smart- your whole post describes your OWN self

You are the one who is in a crusade with your bull**** Mughal theories and everything else that goes with it. I come on here to kill time and catch the occasional laugh when responding to people like you.

Read some of your posts- I think most members here would agree you've had a bucket of "desperate" chucked over you. Get a life and continue working in Chicken shops around the world.
Dude, you spent most of this thread whining about how lost wallets being returned is your cultural hallmark, your turkish-afghan brotherhood and how your people are so beloved by Europeans. As much as I want to ridicule your delusions, I still kept a straight face and tried having an adult conversation (my mistake). You mistake my sympathy for weakness. Please grow up. I don't care to entertain your knowledge (lack of) on Mughal topics.


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Aryan invasion has been debunked thoroughly as colonial era trash. Do you even realise that the theory takes into consideration that the earth is 6000 years old? lol, I should have known.

The Indus region is distinct from the Ganges region which is distinct from the Deccan region. The subcontinent is quite complex, if you ever pick up a book that is...



Honestly, you sound like a pathetic individual. Your wallet experient is equally pathetic and childish, for reasons you would know if you were a grown up.
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Default 10-17-2017, 03:31 AM

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Ok. The world is 6000 years old and the Aryans came just after the great flood. Makes sense.

I did not see any reason to associate Punjab with Tamil, Bengali, Assamese regions in the context of Pakistani history. If I do, i will use your beloved term, i.e British India, which I don't mind using because it actually existed. Funny thing is that you harp on about India more than anyone else on this forum. Why so obsessed?




Dude, you spent most of this thread whining about how lost wallets being returned is your cultural hallmark, your turkish-afghan brotherhood and how your people are so beloved by Europeans. As much as I want to ridicule your delusions, I still kept a straight face and tried having an adult conversation (my mistake). You mistake my sympathy for weakness. Please grow up. I don't care to entertain your knowledge (lack of) on Mughal topics.
Advice. Don't take things to heart on here. We wouldn't want you committing suicide now.

You're terribly confused now and I think this forum is getting to you. You've got my posts mixed up with someone else. I haven't in a single post of mine mentioned wallets and Turks. You've done this before as well when you falsely
claimed I was talking about PIA offices. The only deluded person here is you. We really don't want to have to burst your bubble but sometimes it's necessary.

Take a nice deep breath- stop typing rubbish, stop insulting people and then taking some sort of morally superior stance.

None of us need or want your sympathy, none of us would want you to entertain our lack of knowledge of Mughal culture and cuisine which you are so obsessed with. If we wanted info we would go somewhere else.

In other words sop chatting poo poo. You're now embarrassing yourself.
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