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Der spek khkare pe dase khabaro. Zma tana yaw sawal dai, te kala pakhtunkhwa ta telai ye che dasi spaki khabarai ke zmong pukhtano wrono pesai? Leg sharam oka aw da post de delete ka ke Pakhtun ye aw ke pakhtun ne ye no zmong de melmastiya ghalata estifada makawa. poh shwe ke na?
I know right? The purpose here is to bring Pashtuns together rather than antagonizing them. These nationalists think they are being real smart, talking crap like that. "Most of paki pashtuns are half-breed"...... instead of plugging the gap that is being gradually widened by regional politics and agendas, people like aryana play right into them. You're no better than what we Pashtuns consider our enemies. Seriously tho
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Default 03-20-2017, 11:00 PM

As Shahpur and ZarakDurrani pointed out ,I will further the point that name calling and swearing will not take us anywhere.Today an Afghan will call a Pakistani Pashtun as 'kam-nasal', tomorrow a Pakistani will do the same.
While the reality is that all Pashtuns,be it from any side of the Durand line , have a similar heritage and ancestry .
If we do not put an end to these divisions, then we will be headed towards inter-tribal bitterness.It will then not be a question of being Pashtun , but it will boil down to Afridi , Ghilzai , Kakar, Wazir etc.
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Why are so many Pakistani Pashtuns proud Pakistanis rather than Pashtun first? I know there are many Pashtun nationalists that feel otherwise, but why is the majority like this? It does not make sense to be because they are treated like second class citizens in Pakistan and are dominated by Pakistani Punjabis in the political, military, and economic sphere. Shouldn't they hate Pakistan and want to ally with Afghan Pashtuns rather than Pakistani Punjabis?
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also remember the majority of pashtuns in pakistan have low social status and lack education. So they have no say, but most they hear would be radio or random news paper. They are denied to study in pashto, and very likely, alot of their information leans them to be patriotic to pakistan. I am not saying this personally, but the low education is highlighted or implied by the pakistani media like the pathan jokes and the subliminal message about chai wala (Pashtuns having blue eyes like white people and holding low class jobs). But it's not what i believe but is implied by the media in Pakistan.

then there are the pakistani pashtuns that do get education, but their education is overtly biased towards being loyal to pakistan and islamic history and totally omits the origin of pashtuns and the loy afghanistan movement, hence, that is why the majority become pro-pakistani, or the political slur "gul khan" .

pro-pashtunsitan pashtuns are a sheer minority within pakistan. The are educated as much as the gul khans are, hailing from families that supported folks like bacha khan .Since ANP has lost it's influence, and because of the increase millitancy of islamists and the Pakistani army in KPK/FATA and the casualties of the pashtuns, this has decreased, favouring pro-pakistani pashtuns.

Now look at Afghanistan. Same story. The Taliban basically set the pashtun majority southern afghanistan into flames . Now in terms of class status in Afghans, they do say Durranis are upper class while the Ghilzais and Hazaras are of lower class.
As a result, how Gul Khans get favoured in Pakistan, the Persianized Pashtuns and Afghan Persians get favoured over Pashtun nationalists in Afghanistan and this results in the misconception of AFghans being persian in the diaspora. I have a feeling that Pashtuns with the Loy Pashtunistan/Afghanistan mentality are specifically being weeded out and being replaced with persianized afghans, Gul khans and religously muslim Pashtuns. I even get blacklashed from some Persianized Afghans when trying to explain about annexing KPK and FATA into Afghanistan.


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Man, after reading this comment about the situation, i get a vibe betweeb mix of matrix, maze runner and hunger game, where some paki pahstun realises the situation in Pakistan and saves the ass of the pahstuns in Pakistan through revolution n shieeet.

Man, didn't knew this **** going on(not calling us victims, well, at least not in AFghanistan). And then indics and other anti-pahstun non-pahstuns(not blaming them though, just some internet stuff) on the internet gets to call us fascist(not that we aren't ourselves sometimes).

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Man, after reading this comment about the situation, i get a vibe betweeb mix of matrix, maze runner and hunger game, where some paki pahstun realises the situation in Pakistan and saves the ass of the pahstuns in Pakistan through revolution n shieeet.

Man, didn't knew this **** going on(not calling us victims, well, at least not in AFghanistan). And then indics and other anti-pahstun non-pahstuns(not blaming them though, just some internet stuff) on the internet gets to call us fascist(not that we aren't ourselves sometimes).

Due to the abysmally low support, let alone, media coverage on the Pashtunistan movement, i could say that The Pashtunistan movement is officially in the "conspiracy theory" status. The Kurdistan, Kashmir, Palestine movement has alot more attention. I even feel that the Balochistan movement is made just to make a distraction or diverting attention away from Pashtunistan.

So pathetic. Just google on English Google Pashtun and you get results turned in as "Pashtun vs Hazara" predominantly because of the book named "The Kite Runner". Nothing about the durrand line, nothing about ISI and arming pashtun children. Well not nothing, but alot lower compared to the number of searches for Pashtun vs Hazara. Khalid Hosseini probably is somewhat of a disinformation agent. And You usually get information about Afghan Pashtuns, not so much for Pakistani Pashtuns, why ?

because to find information about Pakistani Pashtuns, you type "Pathan" instead, you'd find alots, but half of that would be culturally assimilatd Pashtuns into the indian/pakistani culture, like bollywood stars such as shah rukh khan and dilip kumar (first rumored to be hindkowan jat or mughal , second is a hindko non-pashtun ).

it would help if you type "Pakhtun" with the "k" and not the "s", but probably not help that much.


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