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Default 01-11-2016, 11:17 PM

Z Kabul,

Ignore this fetid lamp of daal.

I have a few questions for you.

1- How capable do you think the local irregular armed groups/warlords are in north in dealing with the Talibs?

2- How would you evaluate Dostum's foray's into some provinces in north? In my view it has achieved next to nothing except emboldening talibs, in essence was counterproductive. Back to my previous question, I doubt these forces can match the ANSF in fighting capabilities when it comes to confronting talibs. I doubt you could fight talibs who are fighting a non-pecuniary and ideological war with a bunch of ill-disciplined warlords who fights for spoil and lust for a bacha.

3- Mir Alam and co have been time and again defeated by talibs fair and square. Around 300 of his men hands down and pathetically surrendered to Talibs around the bala i hesar area when the captured kondoz.

4- Mir Alam is also a sworn enemy of Hizb in Kondoz,to my knowledge the current Kondoz governor is Juma Khan Hamdard's close ally, Jamiat's main rival in north in addition to Dostum. what is your take on this?

5- Why is Ghani not allowing operations against talibs wherever they might be?

6- Last but not least, how do look at the recent contacts between talibs and Russia good old friend of certain factions?

Please plea to your friends on my behalf to not show any mercy to Talibs.

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Default 01-11-2016, 11:37 PM

I hate posting from my phone. Btw, do you also think that Ghani is in no uncertain terms a Talib himself. If you do then, it at least helps me put things in my own perspective rather better.
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Default 01-11-2016, 11:46 PM

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Zaadgaan is a tajiki propaganda mouth piece. Blame everything on Pakistan propaganda is a tajiki nationalists tactic.
In the internal conflict all parties allied with a country to access resources. Talibs with Pakistan, NA even worse with Russia and Iran. While talibs used to go on sachs of daal whereas NA used to get Russian made protein bars delivered straight to Panjsher. So they can't cry foul.
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Default 01-11-2016, 11:49 PM

Seems Paki daal does better job than anything Russia can produce at the end. Or it might be something inherent about Talibs?
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In the internal conflict all parties allied with a country to access resources. Talibs with Pakistan, NA even worse with Russia and Iran. While talibs used to go on sachs of daal whereas NA used to get Russian made protein bars delivered straight to Panjsher. So they can't cry foul.
That's nonsense. NA cant fight, most of the fighting on their behalf is done by Americans. While it is no secrete about American military presence, no one has produced any paki military on Afghan soil. The fighting is done by Afghans themselves. You guys labeling the Afghan insurgents as Paki is a Tajik propaganda tactic to fool morons like yourself into accepting Tajik and Hazara domination. While your making money off of the occupation, your people are dying by that said tactic that you support and spread.
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Seems Paki daal does better job than anything Russia can produce at the end. Or it might be something inherent about Talibs?
Its something inherit about greedy warlords who lust after a bacha and abuse their people. Its that system that does not work. Tajiks and Hazaras might fall for them since they don't have a gun culture but a culturally armed tribal society will show resistance to it.
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Default 01-12-2016, 06:50 AM

@Zangandu Kabuli I never said anything about panjabis, not everything is decided by panjabis in Pakistan. And I don't know what linguistic connection panjabis have with Tajiks, average panjabi probably never met single tajik in their life. Remind me of Iranians on defence forums trying to convince Pakis to support Iran over Saudi Arabia because of some linguistic and cultural connection. Not going to happen bro.


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That's nonsense. NA cant fight, most of the fighting on their behalf is done by Americans. While it is no secrete about American military presence, no one has produced any paki military on Afghan soil. The fighting is done by Afghans themselves. You guys labeling the Afghan insurgents as Paki is a Tajik propaganda tactic to fool morons like yourself into accepting Tajik and Hazara domination. While your making money off of the occupation, your people are dying by that said tactic that you support and spread.
This is a mischaracterization of TajikUzbekHazara talking points. They are saying the Taliban leadership is controlled or at the least heavily infiltrated by the ISI, which is undeniably true. The average person on the street might say: Taliban footsoldiers are Punjabis, but that is indeed propaganda.

The same way that people in Lebanon call Hezbollah Iranian, that doesn't mean the hezbollah grunt is a Persian in disguise. But their leadership is selected, appointed, influenced, financed by the IRGC.
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Default 01-12-2016, 12:49 PM

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That's nonsense. NA cant fight, most of the fighting on their behalf is done by Americans. While it is no secrete about American military presence, no one has produced any paki military on Afghan soil. The fighting is done by Afghans themselves. You guys labeling the Afghan insurgents as Paki is a Tajik propaganda tactic to fool morons like yourself into accepting Tajik and Hazara domination. While your making money off of the occupation, your people are dying by that said tactic that you support and spread.
you peace of **** should understand that talib without the morale, logistic and financial support of pakistan establishment would not put up even 10 percent of the fight they are putting now. they would be easily rounded up to helmand only without pakistan support.
now we don't say that talib fought for pakistan or pakistan have their man in their rehbri shura, but no one can deny the amount of soft and hard influence pakistan got on them either talib like it or not but the fact is pakistan can push them any time for peace talk, can stop it any time. they can make the Qatar office irrelevant any time, they can arrest or kill the talib who don't want to dance to their tunes. in past they have arrested all those talib who tried to contact government directly.
fact is talib is a good fighter and have the capability to roll over not on afghanistan but pakistan and all the car countries, but they are bad at diplomacy, they are now clueless as how to say No to pakistan and at the same time that No should have no effect on their capabilities on ground.
you only become a fool when you continuously fall for the same ****. accept it talib is a fool. they let pakistan wasting everything they sacrificed twice.
as far as i know the environment is not good for taliban to sit in peace talks now, there are deep fracture visible inside their leadership but pakistan is pushing them to peace talks and that too without the qatar office means pakistan is dividing taliban on purpose.

read here the
http://tribune.com.pk/story/1025072/...teral-meeting/
and here
Divide and Rule: Pakistan's New Covert Taliban Approach
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Default 01-12-2016, 01:04 PM

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This is a mischaracterization of TajikUzbekHazara talking points. They are saying the Taliban leadership is controlled or at the least heavily infiltrated by the ISI, which is undeniably true. The average person on the street might say: Taliban footsoldiers are Punjabis, but that is indeed propaganda.

The same way that people in Lebanon call Hezbollah Iranian, that doesn't mean the hezbollah grunt is a Persian in disguise. But their leadership is selected, appointed, influenced, financed by the IRGC.
actually support of talib is a short term solution for pakistan, they are supporting talib to make Afg administration bow to their terms. and to make them distanced from TTP. that all , they are happy with a week kabul administration who can do nothing but can only show their teeth. on the other hand a weak talib if came to power is a threat to pakistan integrity, not only will they seek revenge but will highly collaborate with TTP. Afg talib have too much influence in pakistan and people have soft corner for them. especially conservative pashtun sees them as commander of the faithful and will always blow his ass with suicide vest if commander of the faithful ordered him to do so.
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