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Default 07-01-2015, 04:43 AM

This is why Afghanistan is basically soon to be become an official failed state. Lose-lose situation all around.
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Default 07-01-2015, 05:25 AM

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From USA/UK as well!

The world is grey and very complicated. But to make a general assumptions the most powerful players and their pawns I would say.

USA/NATO/Israel/EU and their puppet states Qatar, Saudi baboonia, porkistan, UAE, Oman, Kuwait, Japan, South Korea, Philippines semi Afghanistan etc VS BRICS + their puppet states Cuba, Venezuela etc. Iran is a joker right now. They are a independent regional power that makes countries like, Israel, USA, UK, Saudi Baboonia, Porkistan etc **** on their pants. Look where Iran is today after those powers throws everything at them with Sanctions for 40 years. Saddam's Iraq piss on themselves after few sanctions. Not surprised so much that region used to be super power from Achameneids to Sassanids and beyond. But I am impressed how the leadership of Iran have tight control over their population and have them somehow united almost as one body and one mind. That is what I want for Afghanistan/Pashtunistan minus the arabisation, and the ones that doesn't really belong there of course!
the version of iran is not an option for afghanistan!
as i know afghanistan always lived from foreign aid and cannot be independent
iran suppress his own people like saudi is doing it and they support shia islamism around the world


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the version of iran is not an option for afghanistan!
as i know afghanistan always lived from foreign aid and cannot be independent
iran suppress his own people like saudi is doing it and they support shia islamism around the world
You realise, you are talking from the bull's ass right? How could the people of Afghanistan/Ariana survive its more than 5000-8000 year of its RICH and powerful history? How could it survive and DEFEND off hordes of barbaric invasions from Alexander, the Arabs, mongolism-turks, Punjabis, English savages etc. And in modern time within 40 years fight against 2 super powers it barely can hold off. It has devastated and destroyed our WHOLE Noble Pashtun REGION!

It seems that you think Red cross, UN, etc was available 5000-80 years ago? Gimme a break please, it make some people here laugh at you! I am not blaming the devastation of my noble lands and people solely on the foreigners but we got a lot of traitors and
parasites just because of the different ethnicity living inside Afghanistan
today. There is no clear unification if you look, and agendas/ideology's are to diverse.

The noble and powerful ancestors of mine should never allowed these foreign people settle here on the first place and give them freedom to shape our noble lands. Surely they don't deserve today. With all these ethnic groups repaying Pashtuns for its hospitality and mercy with a knife on the back.

Afghanistan has not ALWAYS been lived of foreign AID. We don't even need it, because IT MAKES US WEAK. Look at IRAN it become more strong than ever with all the sanctions against it. "Iran supress its own people" Give me a break, I talked to many Iranians, and majority knows its necessary for the greater good or the foreigners will divide and eat them like they done to other countries specially Afghanistan. Only some Iranian faggots, traitors, and Shah parast who like YOLO style western style is against it.

In the 19 century, when Russia and British filth played the Great Game Loy Afghanistan was the chessboard. They corrupted and wanted to BUY Loy Afghanistan, and mostly UK cut off Loy Afghanistan's resources lines etc. Even had 3 huge invasion war Against Loy Afghanistan where they lost DEARLY! The "Mighty" British Empire who the sun never set had its WAR MACHINE raped by the noble AFGHANS not once BUT 3 major times, like EVERY single barbaric invasions before it. Mostly I blame the coward panjabis/hindus today's porkistanis that was in their army for their looses, very easy competition for the noble Pashtun warriors.

Please you seems to be some kind of brainwashed European that some how thinks Afghanistan or its PEOPLE IS SOMEHOW WEAK. Well let me CLEAR this for you. Afghanistan/Pashtunistan and my ancient family line have survived and surpassed thousands of empires/states with its noble cultural, language, traditions and mostly of its homogeneous ethnicity INTACT! Even with 80+ nations inside Afghanistan today, it will survive this bloody 100 year bad luck time line and the pure Pashtuns will live on with pride, honour, and its SOUL INTACT, despite how the rest of the world is being shaped by the Americanised Hollywood freak new globalisation.

TO be exactly CLEAR, there is NOT one single COUNTRY on this planet could survived the invasions of UK, SOVIET and NATO/USA + 78 more nations in the past 100 years. They lost all their true identity, whole state was dissolved and made into new artificial state etc.

Yes we lost some part of our noble lands from our influence because of porkis/british empire in 1948, but its seems mostly cowards live there today, so its not a huge loss, just the noble land is more valuable than all its identity crises people. The Most beautiful thing is that, it can always be repopulated by noble ones later. And you know rich Pashtuns, with 8-15 good nurtured kids, it will take just 5 generations.

So, what did Afghanistan do TO DESERVE THIS? Because we are free people who doesn't take it in the ass by some powerful foreigners we must be punished with this. I will tell you we will never forget these acts on the Afghan/Pashtun people and will repay it 1000 times to all the guilty and their future family lines, let it take 1000 years. It is one of my legacies I will leave when I pass this earth.

The future looks bright for the one who plans for it.

Afghans/Pashtuns will never forget injustice and this time it will not be an eye for an eye for my legacy. It will be 1000 eyes for ever single one eye done to my people.
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Default 07-01-2015, 01:13 PM

simply put, most of our narrative is made up and historically inaccurate with no empirical evidence in support of it.

i.) There's no such thing as a 5000 year old Afghanistan, Even the word "Stan" is recent and borrowed from Turkish.

ii.) Ariana was a reference term for a region inhabited by various Arian tribes. There's no suggestion that there was an actual empire called Ariana anywhere in history. It may even be anachronistic since no one really knows it became vogue to use the term.

iii.) It couldn't defend against Alexander, It's true there were pockets of resistance, but if you mean "Ariana" as in the area now encompassing, Herat, Kandahar, Balkh, Farah, Ghor etc. etc. etc. .....Alexander controlled that, and his predecessors the Seleucids ruled it for a few hundred years until the Parthians, who were Not-Pashtuns or Afghans overthrew it. Parthians spoke Middle Persian. There is some suggeston that possibly Paktiawals were never under the full control of Alexander, but this is most likely mythologized because the actual definitive existence of Pashtuns as a distinct ethnic group has not been confirmed during this era.

iv) Turks ......did you forget about the Saljuks? They had their throne IN Ghazni, Pashtuns willingly served them as soldiers. This is acknowledged by AlBiruni, Bayhaqi etc. etc. etc.

v.) Punjabis, look at Afghanistan right now....and that's all the evidence you need to know this is false.

vi) English ....OK , now this was a hard and undeniable example of success but only militarily Politically Afghans Kings were their vassals asking them for money ...i.e. FOREiGN AID

But for the most part you live in a story book fantasy, not reality.
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the version of iran is not an option for afghanistan!
as i know afghanistan always lived from foreign aid and cannot be independent
iran suppress his own people like saudi is doing it and they support shia islamism around the world
What you've been saying has pretty much been true for at least the last 150 years.

From Shah Shuja Al Mulk to Abdur Rahman Khan to Nadir Khan to Zahir Shah, all were basically beggars to the international community, to Europeans.
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Default 07-01-2015, 03:01 PM

I love the idealism of Loy Afghanistan and his pristine love for Pashtuns and at the same time I love the realism of Brown Savage. The truth is in-between the two. Pashtuns are a great, ancient ,gallant, unique and exceptional ethnic group but at the same time simpleton rather stupid, beggars, uneducated, ignorant , arrogant and unrealistic people.

They were defeated by many and they also defeated many. They were ruled by others but they also ruled others. Rulers like Shershah and poet-warriors like Khushal Baba are our pride.

Today what we need is to defeat Islamism, reform Pashtunwali and get modern education without losing our basic traditions and cultural traits and make Pashto a great language of the world.
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Default 07-01-2015, 04:23 PM

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With regards to this article, Afghan officials also said they retook several districts from Taliban insurgents only to have other news organizations reject this claim. In my opinion, judging from past and current record of lies and misinformation, Afghan officials claims about ISIS seizing territory in Afghanistan is not true.


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Default 07-01-2015, 05:32 PM

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You realise, you are talking from the bull's ass right? How could the people of Afghanistan/Ariana survive its more than 5000-8000 year of its RICH and powerful history? How could it survive and DEFEND off hordes of barbaric invasions from Alexander, the Arabs, mongolism-turks, Punjabis, English savages etc. And in modern time within 40 years fight against 2 super powers it barely can hold off. It has devastated and destroyed our WHOLE Noble Pashtun REGION!

It seems that you think Red cross, UN, etc was available 5000-80 years ago? Gimme a break please, it make some people here laugh at you! I am not blaming the devastation of my noble lands and people solely on the foreigners but we got a lot of traitors and
parasites just because of the different ethnicity living inside Afghanistan
today. There is no clear unification if you look, and agendas/ideology's are to diverse.

The noble and powerful ancestors of mine should never allowed these foreign people settle here on the first place and give them freedom to shape our noble lands. Surely they don't deserve today. With all these ethnic groups repaying Pashtuns for its hospitality and mercy with a knife on the back.

Afghanistan has not ALWAYS been lived of foreign AID. We don't even need it, because IT MAKES US WEAK. Look at IRAN it become more strong than ever with all the sanctions against it. "Iran supress its own people" Give me a break, I talked to many Iranians, and majority knows its necessary for the greater good or the foreigners will divide and eat them like they done to other countries specially Afghanistan. Only some Iranian faggots, traitors, and Shah parast who like YOLO style western style is against it.

In the 19 century, when Russia and British filth played the Great Game Loy Afghanistan was the chessboard. They corrupted and wanted to BUY Loy Afghanistan, and mostly UK cut off Loy Afghanistan's resources lines etc. Even had 3 huge invasion war Against Loy Afghanistan where they lost DEARLY! The "Mighty" British Empire who the sun never set had its WAR MACHINE raped by the noble AFGHANS not once BUT 3 major times, like EVERY single barbaric invasions before it. Mostly I blame the coward panjabis/hindus today's porkistanis that was in their army for their looses, very easy competition for the noble Pashtun warriors.

Please you seems to be some kind of brainwashed European that some how thinks Afghanistan or its PEOPLE IS SOMEHOW WEAK. Well let me CLEAR this for you. Afghanistan/Pashtunistan and my ancient family line have survived and surpassed thousands of empires/states with its noble cultural, language, traditions and mostly of its homogeneous ethnicity INTACT! Even with 80+ nations inside Afghanistan today, it will survive this bloody 100 year bad luck time line and the pure Pashtuns will live on with pride, honour, and its SOUL INTACT, despite how the rest of the world is being shaped by the Americanised Hollywood freak new globalisation.

TO be exactly CLEAR, there is NOT one single COUNTRY on this planet could survived the invasions of UK, SOVIET and NATO/USA + 78 more nations in the past 100 years. They lost all their true identity, whole state was dissolved and made into new artificial state etc.

Yes we lost some part of our noble lands from our influence because of porkis/british empire in 1948, but its seems mostly cowards live there today, so its not a huge loss, just the noble land is more valuable than all its identity crises people. The Most beautiful thing is that, it can always be repopulated by noble ones later. And you know rich Pashtuns, with 8-15 good nurtured kids, it will take just 5 generations.

So, what did Afghanistan do TO DESERVE THIS? Because we are free people who doesn't take it in the ass by some powerful foreigners we must be punished with this. I will tell you we will never forget these acts on the Afghan/Pashtun people and will repay it 1000 times to all the guilty and their future family lines, let it take 1000 years. It is one of my legacies I will leave when I pass this earth.

The future looks bright for the one who plans for it.

Afghans/Pashtuns will never forget injustice and this time it will not be an eye for an eye for my legacy. It will be 1000 eyes for ever single one eye done to my people.
have i ever attacked you? NO! i have always been polite to you so keep it too!
i did not mean foreing aid for the entire pashtun history but for the last 100 years

im brainwashed? pfffffff calm down boy you should know that im not!
i guess you spoke with iranian who support the shia ideology, but there are lots of iranian who hate this government and they are not shah supporter
do you know how many people were killed by iranian intelligence? do you know the black list of iran government?
do you know anything about evin-prison?
i have seen many times with my own eyes how polite they were towards you afghan (pashtun) but behind your back: ****ing pashtuns, ****ing pashtunwalli, they are so backward etc, they consider the existence of pashtuns as existence of islamism
in iran is personality cult. is this what you want for afghanistan?
women are suppressed in iran. is this what you want for afghanistan, women in burqas?


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I love the idealism of Loy Afghanistan and his pristine love for Pashtuns and at the same time I love the realism of Brown Savage. The truth is in-between the two. Pashtuns are a great, ancient ,gallant, unique and exceptional ethnic group but at the same time simpleton rather stupid, beggars, uneducated, ignorant , arrogant and unrealistic people.

They were defeated by many and they also defeated many. They were ruled by others but they also ruled others. Rulers like Shershah and poet-warriors like Khushal Baba are our pride.

Today what we need is to defeat Islamism, reform Pashtunwali and get modern education without losing our basic traditions and cultural traits and make Pashto a great language of the world.
so my dear badlun, these are only words
does anything happen to realise it?


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What you've been saying has pretty much been true for at least the last 150 years.

From Shah Shuja Al Mulk to Abdur Rahman Khan to Nadir Khan to Zahir Shah, all were basically beggars to the international community, to Europeans.
this is an evidence thats there is soemthign wrong in society
why is it possibly for all foreigners to do it for the last 150 years?
you need reformation like badlun is saying


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