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Default China, Russia, India consult on Afghanistan - 05-29-2015, 06:21 PM

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20..._134282260.htm

China, Russia, India consult on Afghanistan

BEIJING, May 29 (Xinhua) -- Chinese, Russian and Indian diplomats met in New Delhi on Thursday to discuss helping stabilize Afghanistan, a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson revealed on Friday.

Hua Chunying said the trilateral meeting was chaired by India's Deputy National Security Advisor Arvind Gupta, and attended by Assistant Chinese Foreign Minister Liu Jianchao and Deputy Secretary of Russia's Security Council Yevgeny Lukyanov.

All three sides agreed the future development of Afghanistan is closely related to regional peace and security, and vowed to play constructive roles to support its reconciliation and reconstruction, according to Hua.

The spokesperson said they will aim for closer coordination on the issue and give full play to the Shanghai Cooperation Organization and the Istanbul Process, the only Afghanistan-related cooperation mechanism led by countries in the region.

The Istanbul Process has identified a number of confidence-building measures in areas including counterterrorism, drug control, disaster management, trade and investment opportunities, regional infrastructure construction and education to be jointly implemented by a number of countries and organizations involved in the collective.
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What is this the omen of? Are the regional powers now taking pro-active interest in peace and reconciliation in Afghanistan? This is a good development. Afghanistan should primarily be the concern of regional powers because they have the higher stakes in the stability of the region not any extra-regional power.
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1. The USA is long used to dominating the world and its state department issuing statements on every single corner of the globe, if a mouse moves between the Ecuador-Peru border the US needs to be involved, to know for its "global security".




2. It is accustomed to this domination that it finds not only strange but even considers it a serious threat if it is not involved in any major international developments.

However Russia, China and India are nuclear powers and can tell America to f*** off.

Which is basically what they are doing here.



3. This is just one example of an emerging multi-polar world, and in this particular case the powers here are acting independently of the US.

Saudi Arabia's campaign against Yemen was similar in that it was done independently of the Americans.

However that fell through because the Saudis had banked on the Pakistanis or even the Egyptians acting as cannon fodder to die in Yemen for Saudi interests, the Pakistanis said no.

The point however it was an example of a major regional actor, Saudi, realizing that it needed to do things independent of the US and tried to do so.




4. Pakistan which is the sponsor of the Taliban and basically the "Taliban campaign" is just a war by Pakistan against Afghanistan to install a puppet regime, will be very upset by this.

a: Pakistan hates India.

b: It wants to keep Afghanistan as a puppet state.

c: It sees the hated India working with two global powers China and Russia.

The Pakistanis make much of their "higher than the mountains, deeper than the seas" friendship with the Chinese, but the Chinese here are working in conjunction with the Indians - not the Pakistanis.




5. If things really got hot in Afghanistan there are many things the Russians, Chinese and Indians can do. Russia can provide Tajik groups with arms to counter the Taliban, so that the Taliban can never rule the whole of Afghanistan.

It can also do the same with Dostum's Uzbeks.


In the long run, Pakistan has lost this war.

Even if the Taliban were to temporarily gain control of Kabul (which most consider very unlikely), they'd never be able to take control of the whole of Afghanistan and Tajikistan and Uzbekistan will only be too happy to provide Russian arms to their ethnic kinsmen in Afghanistan to keep the Taliban at bay.

The urban population of Afghanistan, especially the middle classes be they Pashtun or non-Pashtun detest the Taliban.

As I said, in the long run, Pakistan has lost this war.


I think they've sensed this to a degree, so while sponsoring the Taliban to carry out more terrorist operations, they also know that these days may be over for them as China and Russia are starting to zero in, hence more noises about Pak-Afghan friendship.

Even the Saudis have apparently decided to switch support to the Afghans rather than the Pakistanis in this de facto war between the two states.


With:

- Saudi Arabia
- Turkey
- Iran
- India
- China
- Russia
- Uzbekistan
- Tajikistan

all against them and backing anti-Taliban Afghans, the Pakistani generals fear that they will be defeated in their decades long war against the Afghan people.


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Default 05-30-2015, 05:40 PM

Ghani asks Pakistan to end its longstanding support for Afghan Taliban

By KHAAMA PRESS - Sat May 30 2015, 8:04 pm


Ghani asks Pakistan to end support for Taliban

President Mohammad Ashraf Ghani has set new demands for Islamabad to end the country’s longstanding support for the Afghan Taliban through a letter sent to civilian and military leaders of Pakistan, it has been reported.
The demands by President Ghani is seen as a sign that Kabul is rethinking its outreach efforts to Pakistan despite made cultivating a cooperative, bilateral relationship with Pakistan one of his key foreign policy initiatives.

An informed source in Presidential Palace quoted by Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty’s Gandhara website said President Ghani has requested specific steps to end the Taliban’s sanctuary in their country and help in addressing their violent campaign inside Afghanistan.

The source further added that President Ghani has also asked Pakistani officials to prove their sincerity in backing the Afghan peace process by taking seven steps in the next three weeks.

According to the official, President Ghani has demanded Islamabad to issue an official declaration condemning the launch of the Taliban [spring] offensive.

Other demands include “Pakistan should extend counterterrorism operations to the Haqqani network and arrest those responsible for the recent terrorist activities inside Afghanistan,” the official said, adding that President Ghani has asked Pakistan’s military leadership to issue a “directive” to deny sanctuary for the Afghan Taliban.

Another major demand included “placing Quetta and Peshawar shura (the Taliban leadership council) members under house arrest and initiating legal proceedings against them for threatening security of friendly states,” the official added.

He said President Ghani has also asked Islamabad to agree to an exchange of prisoners, deny Taliban combatants medical treatment inside Pakistan, and limit the sale of fertilizers and electrical switches that can be used in detonating improvised explosive devices (IEDs) — a common killer of Afghan troops and civilians.

https://www.khaama.com/ghani-asks-pa...n-taliban-1152


1. Ghani obviously has the support of Russia and India in making these demands, and almost certainly China.

2. Does he have Saudi support?

With the Saudis being betrayed by the Pakistanis recently over the Yemen crisis, they are in no mood to feel obliged to be friendly to the Pakistanis over Afghanistan.




3. He also needs to send Dostum to Ankara to pressure the Turks heavily to tell the Pakistanis to stop supporting the Taliban.




If Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan all tell Pakistan to back off waging terrorism against a Muslim nation, Afghanistan, the Pakistanis will be in a difficult position.

The world, including the Muslim world needs to help protect Afghanistan from the war Pakistan is waging on it using Taliban terrorists.


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