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Default Pashtuns of Nuristan? - 09-30-2017, 04:48 PM

I was watching this documentary and most of the people spoke northern pashto, Are these Pashtunized Nuristanis or belong to Pashtun tribes?

TOLOnews Documentary on Nuristan / مستند طلوع*نیوز از ولایت نورستان - YouTube
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Default 10-01-2017, 03:34 AM

i found this other video where they are all speaking pashto

PEOPLE'S VOICE: Nuristan's Issues Under Discussion ‎/ آواز مردم: مشکلات نورستان - YouTube
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Default 10-01-2017, 03:52 PM

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I was watching this documentary and most of the people spoke northern pashto, Are these Pashtunized Nuristanis or belong to Pashtun tribes?
In towns like Waygal, Kamdesh, Parun, Mandol, Barg-e-matal the Pashto speakers are mostly Pashtun settled from Laghman, Kunar, Nangarhar, evident from their Kom. Few are native Nuristani who speak Pashto well.
Older generation (+50) speak Nuristani language of their area, like Komvri, Katvari. They can be identified by their family names - non Pashtun family names like Janadari - a formerly strong family. My maternal grandfather was posted to the region during Zahir Shah's time hence I got to know some information first hand. The documentary is one of the first with decent cameras and recordings of life. The Islamic influence is strong amongst Nuristani, however older generation know the old pagan shrines and vaguely remember rituals. I haven't been to Brag-e-Matal (curiously a Farsi name) since 1980 but met with a few strong men from Nuristan living in Hamburg - yousuf Nuristani, descendent of Khalil Nuristani and General Mohamad Nuristani (who passed away in early 2000).
If you want more details look up a book Kafirs of Hindukush by George scott Robertson.
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Default 10-01-2017, 06:21 PM

Afghan Star Season 9 - Noristani Song - YouTube
From what this song sounds like it nurostani seems to be a similar language to pashto and is as similar to pashto as ormuri is therefore i wouldnt be surprosed if a similar assimilation takes place with them as well. But again idk much so i can be wrong.
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Default 10-02-2017, 12:28 PM

I don't know the answer to your question but there are also some among them who speak dari and abandoned their native language, especially those who live or grew up in Kabul. I remember my father telling me when he worked as 'saimansab' at Kabul Airport his supervisor was a Nuristani and whenever his family came from Nuristan to visit him he would speak broken Nuristani.
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