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Default Possibly extint tribes? - 08-10-2017, 07:06 PM

So ice never really heard of people with last names of dilazak or suri/sur and havent really heard of people from these tribes im modern times at all and stuff so are they like all extint or nah just not a part of their tribal culture? Same with lodis cuz the only lodhi ive heard of is sahir lodhi and i dont think he is pashtun(is he?).
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So ice never really heard of people with last names of dilazak or suri/sur and havent really heard of people from these tribes im modern times at all and stuff so are they like all extint or nah just not a part of their tribal culture? Same with lodis cuz the only lodhi ive heard of is sahir lodhi and i dont think he is pashtun(is he?).
The Lodi clans in Pakhtunkhwa/Afghanistan are Marwat, Miyan Khel, Daulat Khel, Kundi, Dotani, Khasor, Balots and Niazi. The royal Lodi clan which ruled Delhi, was Shahu Khel section of Prangi and it is extinct. By extinction i mean it cease to exist as a tribe and an identity , otherwise there will be many people with their genes. Dilazaks are found in Haripur and their main town is Serai Saleh. Sur was even a very small tribe in the times of Sher Shah Sur and no traces of it are left. You can say its also extinct.

Sahir Lodhi, Maliha Lodhi etc are not Pashtuns and they are not "Lodis"
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Default 08-10-2017, 08:25 PM

A once large Pashtun tribe which has disappeared without any trace, is Kung. In 13th century they along with Nahars were powerful predatory tribes in Sibi-Marri-Bugti region and clashed with Kurt-Mongol forces in 13th century. Later Baloch appears to have had wars with them as Kung is mentioned to be foes of Balochs in their ballads . Old Hindu traditions state that old Sibi fort used to be called 'the fort of Kangu-Nari people'. The much declined Nahars were able to establish themselves in South Punjab with the help of Bahlol Lodi and the details about them are available but we dont know any thing about Kung.
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Default 08-11-2017, 10:02 PM

sometimes is mixing. A tribe gos extinct when no males are left, and only females. they mix with the rest of the population, last name is not transfered, the tribe is gone.
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Another question that i have(kinda irrelevant to the thread): so i know this one pashtun guy from DI khan and he is pretty much your cliche pashtun and all but yesterday i came across his facebook profile and he had baloch as his last name so like is there a tribe or khel over there called baloch or are many baloch there pashtunized or something?
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Another question that i have(kinda irrelevant to the thread): so i know this one pashtun guy from DI khan and he is pretty much your cliche pashtun and all but yesterday i came across his facebook profile and he had baloch as his last name so like is there a tribe or khel over there called baloch or are many baloch there pashtunized or something?
I think Dera Ismail Khan used to be Baloch territory. "Dera" I believe is a Balochi word.


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Another question that i have(kinda irrelevant to the thread): so i know this one pashtun guy from DI khan and he is pretty much your cliche pashtun and all but yesterday i came across his facebook profile and he had baloch as his last name so like is there a tribe or khel over there called baloch or are many baloch there pashtunized or something?
Baloch people do live in Dera Ismail Khan.
Of course , they are different from Pashtuns.How can you call this guy 'pashtun' if his last name is Baloch?
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The Lodi clans in Pakhtunkhwa/Afghanistan are Marwat, Miyan Khel, Daulat Khel, Kundi, Dotani, Khasor, Balots and Niazi. The royal Lodi clan which ruled Delhi, was Shahu Khel section of Prangi and it is extinct. By extinction i mean it cease to exist as a tribe and an identity , otherwise there will be many people with their genes. Dilazaks are found in Haripur and their main town is Serai Saleh. Sur was even a very small tribe in the times of Sher Shah Sur and no traces of it are left. You can say its also extinct.

Sahir Lodhi, Maliha Lodhi etc are not Pashtuns and they are not "Lodis"
Why do you say that Sahir Lodhi and Maliha Lodhi are neither Lodhis nor Pashtun?
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There is a branch of Hotak Tribe called Sur.


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Baloch people do live in Dera Ismail Khan.
Of course , they are different from Pashtuns.How can you call this guy 'pashtun' if his last name is Baloch?
Cuz he pretty much refers to himself as pashtun, speaks fluent pashto and pretty much looks like one too. Really confusing tbh.
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