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Default 08-11-2017, 03:13 AM

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Its certainly does not happen a lot and it is as abnormal as swara is in the Pashtun society. The line in the article is correct while your interpretation of Zhagh is wrong.
You yourself have already stated your own hypocrisy. On the one hand the article says that "it is not allowed" and then you say the person doing the ghag is ready to face the consequences which means someone has to man up and face him. The article even mentions that other men who want to send their proposal to her fear the man who did the Ghag.
I hear numerous stories from our area on a yearly basis. It might not happen in your area since there is some gov authority but in Paktia, there is no gov authority what so ever. The very little gov presence that is there is too afraid to get involved in village matters.

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Its your American background speaking. You are misinformed about the Pashtun society. No, i was not talking about lust/hawas. Try sending a rishta to a Pashtun family back home and tell them " sta lur bande ma zoy mayan da" .....the reaction will not be what you have imagined
"mayan" is crush or "in love". I have already stated that is not proper. Remember I used the word "gran."
I was talking about in a caring way. Youre promoting the narrative that pashtuns are not human, that they are incapable of showing love or care to the opposite sex. What your saying is that it is improper for a man to show love for a woman but its ok to just take a woman from the house by force, to take their dignity away. So basically they will shoot a man for showing love for her but not shoot that same man for taking her by force. That does not even make sense. In pashtun society the latter is considered much worse than the former.

And swara is a custom that originally was intended to bring families that had disputes closer and bring unity.The logic was that if the disputing parties become blood relatives, then the generational blood feud should disappear. These customs existed in many societies with minor differences. A famous one in Europe was where King Henry VII married Elizabeth of York to bring the two warring houses(House of York and House of Lancaster) together. I could name many more.

What you lack is an understanding of how customs came to be. You look at them from what Edward Said called an Orientalist's point of view where people take advantage, (savage this and savage that.) I look at them from a historical point of view and how human beings socially evolved into what they are today.

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Default 08-12-2017, 04:03 PM

Elite Pakhton, ta de sare zoi na ye? pa saretob na pohege, sam de sare zoi shi da de khaze sha preda, razel insana.



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Default 08-13-2017, 11:16 AM

If someone did that in front of my house I would have shoot him in the head.
showing disrespect to other people's sister and daughter like is wrong and for that I would happily shoot them and won't care if he dies.


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Default 08-13-2017, 05:23 PM

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Elite Pakhton, ta de sare zoi na ye? pa saretob na pohege, sam de sare zoi shi da de khaze sha preda, razel insana.
... ta khpal zaan na sa poyegay? Raza makhamakh che darta sarhitob ukhaym. Daus.

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Default 08-13-2017, 06:42 PM

Elite Pakhtun , za kha pohegam pa harsa, nayam drsra nejde, ka na sta pa shan spaganaan zama pa makh ki de khabaro kawalo jurat ham nalare, de yaw chaa de lassa nan sta pa shan daus, dala , ao dall khor Sara ham bayad bahs wakam, ta dear khosh Bakht insan ye, daa che Sara nejde na yasto zaka.



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Kunni, Internet banday har sok badmash wi... uss ye darta kha bahana am milao sho, che za darsara neezday na yem.
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Default 08-14-2017, 02:28 AM

Taa jat, ao marwesee sara ba yawa waraz khamakha goram.



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