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Default 04-26-2017, 01:46 PM

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In my family we use either "Lala" or "Bai."(I believe the latter is a Desi influence so I've never been very fond of it.)
bhai is a nono but widely used in pekhawar and around.
in afghanistan its lala.
all the tribes use the word lala not just pashtuns in AFG.
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[QUOTE=demand;808577]Again why should I take your posts at face value? Are you seriously telling me Afghans which are only associated with taliban terrorism, bacha bazi, drugs, women beating etc somehow enjoy more respect compared to Pakistanis because of few criminals out of millions in UK? You realise how common is for small minority of afghanis in UK to be involved in rapes? Recently couple of afghanis in UK were caught raping teenager on live facebook.

I know the reason eastern euros are hated, that was my point. They are euros and white and yet still hated by many. I'm under no illusion like you.

They just called Raheel to lead them because he defeated TTP. Do you expected them to call afghani bacha baz general instead who get killed like chickens by afghani taliban?[/

You should take my posts at face value because I am telling you about a place where I have lived all my life. In simple terms-I know-you do not.

I have lived in the U.K. all my life-I have never lived anywhere else. I come across and work with countless ethnicities on a daily basis on an extremely close level. I have seen the way Pakistanis are viewed all my life, as a child in school, as a teenager in school, as a young man in college and university all the way through the eighties, through the nineties, through the 2000s and even up till now. Trust me on this Afghans are liked a hell of a lot more than Pakistanis- despite the association with terrorism and the Taliban. They are trusted a hell of a lot more than a Pakistani. Once again don't argue with me about race relations in a country where you haven't lived- you simply don't know. You have to have lived in the U.K. to realise this.

You are under a massive massive illusion. Just like every Pakistani from Pakistan you are told that you are respected worldwide. I'm sorry to disappoint you- the facts are very very different.

I'm not anti Pakistan- my family aren't even Afghan nationals- but I'm not stupid enough not to realise something that stares me right in the face daily.
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Default 04-26-2017, 02:08 PM

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But if they hate Pakistanis more than other Muslims then some thing is not right. Pakistanis in U.K are getting arrested for stalking and raping teenage white girls which is very believable as chachora-pan is epidemic in Pakistan and craze for "Gori chamrri" is inherent in Pakistanis. From Pakistan they go there with dirty minds that they will do "mauj masti" there. And they must be displaying the "Pakistani-pan" there which translates to fraud, duplicity, back biting , spineless-ness etc.
It's not even because of that graana. The grooming/stalking epidemic is relatively new. the lack of respect for Pakistanis is decades older. Even other Muslims don't really like Pakistanis.
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Salaam,

I don't realize why people are getting so upset?

I insist on every member to not insult anyone. This is stupid. This is jahiliya. I would like to remind all members a simple thing.

You will all die. And when you go to Allah swt, all the people you want to use on your side and the opposing side will come together to incriminate you. There will be no Pakistan/Afghanistan, or Punjabi/Pashtun, they will all be against you. They will all be witness to your transgressions.

I find people insulting each other like this very stupid. Come on guys. Grow up.

@Charsi Malang, I am very proud of being a Pakistani. I am also very proud of Europeans hating me for being a Pakistani. If they hate me for being a Pakistani, then that means we are doing something right.

Personally, I don't hate anyone. I am a proud Muslim, and also very proud of Pakistan. Perhaps you are in a weak state where you feel the need to let the English know that you are Afghan. Maybe you feel ashamed.

I don't, and I could care less what these bigoted white people think of us. If being an Afghan presents you less problems and makes you feel safer, than who am I to say anything?

Bless you brother.

But we Pakistanis are not scared of anyone except Allah swt.
Here we go- the religious card comes into play.


If Europeans hate you for being a Pakistani then that is nothing to be proud of. Think why they hate you, if you believe that is the case then think why that hatred isn't directed towards other nationalities. It really isn't something to proud of.

My state is anything but weak. An educated Englishman will AUTOMATICALLY associate me with Afghanistan when he realises I am Pashtun. However an educated Englishman will still associate you with India despite knowing you are a Pakistani. Trust me I am not ashamed of my identity-on the contrary I am a proud of being Pashtun. I just don't want to be associated with anything Desi for that is not what I am, nor what my ancestors were. Why do you think an intelligent man like Imran Khan has been associating himself with being Pashtun and has been doing so since the nineties? He is an astute man who has lived in England for many years and has realised that Pakistan is just simply not respected for some reason.

Being an Afghan would present MORE problems, not less here in Britain. Britain and the rest of the world are at WAR with Afghanistan in case you hadn't noticed.

The phrase is "couldn't care less"- not "could care less".
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Default 04-26-2017, 03:50 PM

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Luffy, are you mentally ill?

Who the **** says 'lallay'? It doesn't even me anything...

Yaar tumara dimagh kharab he. Wtf is 'laalay'? LOL

It means nothing in Punjabi nor Pashto. What kind of mentally ill people are you living with?
Pakwatan , your ID Rooh Malang is not even banned yet you have created another ID......are you depressed or some thing?
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Luffy, are you mentally ill?

Who the **** says 'lallay'? It doesn't even me anything...

Yaar tumara dimagh kharab he. Wtf is 'laalay'? LOL

It means nothing in Punjabi nor Pashto. What kind of mentally ill people are you living with?
I've heard the phrase "lalay" before. Wouldn't have thoughts offensive "lalay dee jaan". Whatever that means .
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Pakwatan , your ID Rooh Malang is not even banned yet you have created another ID......are you depressed or some thing?
Warka dang!!!
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I thought "Lala" meant paternal uncle. Moong khpal tra ta lalajan wayoo.
Interesting...Lala is what we call our older cousins or older brothers. We call paternal uncles kaka(altho in my family every other uncle is referred to as uncle except my dad who is kaka).
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Pakwatan , your ID Rooh Malang is not even banned yet you have created another ID......are you depressed or some thing?
It was obviously banned, and that is why I created the new ID. Maybe it doesn't say 'banned' on the forum, but I was instantly banned after my last message.

I am not depressed, rather I wish to know why people have so much hate in their hearts. Life is short, are you going to spend it proving to the world that you are an Afghan and not 'desi'?

If it makes you happy, I don't want to get in the middle of it.

I've always felt closer to Saraikis, Baluch, Sindhis, and Pashtuns even though I am Punjabi. One factor is religion, but another would be because of the city I am from.

I am not interested in insulting anyone or any other country. I would prefer that people should come together and respect each other. I am what I am and not a sell out. I love Pashtun people and also Pakistan.

It would be really easy for me to start kissing the ass of that Irani Fardosi, and start trolling but that's not how I am nor how I was raised. Just like when that tajik came on PDF and asked the rest of Pakistanis to hate on Pashtun people for the purposes of alliance, and I told him to **** off.

I am not against anyone, and I love all people.

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Here we go- the religious card comes into play.


If Europeans hate you for being a Pakistani then that is nothing to be proud of. Think why they hate you, if you believe that is the case then think why that hatred isn't directed towards other nationalities. It really isn't something to proud of.

My state is anything but weak. An educated Englishman will AUTOMATICALLY associate me with Afghanistan when he realises I am Pashtun. However an educated Englishman will still associate you with India despite knowing you are a Pakistani. Trust me I am not ashamed of my identity-on the contrary I am a proud of being Pashtun. I just don't want to be associated with anything Desi for that is not what I am, nor what my ancestors were. Why do you think an intelligent man like Imran Khan has been associating himself with being Pashtun and has been doing so since the nineties? He is an astute man who has lived in England for many years and has realised that Pakistan is just simply not respected for some reason.

Being an Afghan would present MORE problems, not less here in Britain. Britain and the rest of the world are at WAR with Afghanistan in case you hadn't noticed.

The phrase is "couldn't care less"- not "could care less".
If it makes you feel better, then I hope you are happy. To the white people, you are just another brown skinned Paki. I know that for a fact, because I have a lot of family in Glasgow and London.

In the US, thanks to you Pashtuns, all Pakistanis are called taliban. lol

Do I complain? Hell no. I will not allow an ignorant white person to dictate my religion or nationality based on the limited sources of news media that are exposed to them. I stick up for Muslims, Pakistanis, and Afghans any chance that I get. I did it in NYU, and I do it whenever I meet a stupid white Texan that's running his mouth.
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