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Default 10-11-2013, 08:57 PM

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i mean people who come to settle and live normal lives, not people who come to blow up people.
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Default 10-11-2013, 09:01 PM

Hamid karzais wife is a qureshi Arab guys come on now!


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Default 10-11-2013, 09:03 PM

Coming from you who defends pedophiles like Gul Agha Sherzai and says that defending pedophiles is necessary to fight Pakistan ... those Arabs are better than you at least when it comes to child molestation.

Maybe those Arabs can teach people like Bostan News Agency that having sex with little boys is disgusting and harram.


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Default 10-11-2013, 09:05 PM

look at karzai's son, looks like a privileged and cocky gulf arab already.



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Default 10-11-2013, 09:05 PM

Mujadiddis are from India actually and Gailanis are descendants of Shaikh Abdul Qadir Jilani who came from Iran.


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Default 10-11-2013, 09:22 PM

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The next stage of Arab nationalism came in the form of al-Qaeda and "global jihad". It is a reaction to the humiliation that they've been facing for the last 100 years. It's about reclaiming Arab pride.
Then why do Global Jihadis fight nationalist Arabs like Sadat and Muammar Qadhafi


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Arabs consider non-Arabs (especially Afghans and south Asians) as inferior people.

Yes I'm sure this is common; Just like many Pashtuns look down on Tajiks, Hazaras and South Asians as inferior people; This forum is evidence that this is common. But would you say that Pashtuns look down on others as inferior? The existence of bigots in a culture does not means the people as a people see others as inferior.

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Even Assyrians, Egyptians, Berbers and other originally non-Arab people whose cultures and languages have been wiped out by centuries of Arab culture and military imperialism look down on non-Arabs.
I'm sure prejudices exist; but Egypt is considered a cultural center of Arabs all over; most Arabs are into Egyptian Media and Entertainment. Tarek Aziz was President of Iraq during Saddam Hussein; and Saddam Hussein is the EPTIOME of Secular Arab Nationalism; Tarek Aziz is Assyrian. How does someone looked down upon get such high level of status? According to World Fact Book, there are 35 Million Berber speakers in North Africa; If they were wiped out then how come they're Half the Population of Morocco and Algeria are still speaking Berber? Why is Berber a National language of Algeria and Morocco?

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An Arab will never accept an Indian religious scholar or a mujajideen leader.
They why do so many Arabs call Mullah Umar "Amir Al Mu'mineen" ; let's forget about the fact that Taliban and extremist Wahhabis are misguided; Mullah Umar isn't an Arab; but yet many Arabs refer to him as Amir?

Many Arab books cite Indian Scholars like Shah Waliyullah and Shah Ismail Shahid;


This isn't about detending Arabs, Arabs just like Pashtuns are flawed, ignorant and backwards people for the most part; with many disgraceful and unIslamic customs. This is about defending facts. You're not being intellectually honest and presenting factual information but rather a narrative which Ironically was Purveyed by the British and French to divide and rule.


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Default 10-11-2013, 09:32 PM

the mistake is in thinking that arabs are one homogeneous entity. these people are more divided than pashtuns or political entities in afghanistan are. if they weren't, then they would be a world power today based on wealth, geography, and population.

listen to this gaddafi speech at the arab league, towards the end.

Gaddafi speech:'America hanged Saddam and we might be next! (with English) - YouTube


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Default 10-12-2013, 02:28 AM

Arabic should become our official language. We should ask the king of the salafis, his majesty King Abdullah to build consentration camps for people in Afghanistan who are against Arabization. Theconsentration camp should be in the desert and manned by Saudi religious police who cant speak any other language.


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Default 10-12-2013, 04:03 AM

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the mistake is in thinking that arabs are one homogeneous entity. these people are more divided than pashtuns or political entities in afghanistan are. if they weren't, then they would be a world power today based on wealth, geography, and population.

listen to this gaddafi speech at the arab league, towards the end.

Gaddafi speech:'America hanged Saddam and we might be next! (with English) - YouTube
arabs are divided because nationalism with in, until they give up their nationalism, they will always fail. pretty much the rest of the muslim world too
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Default 10-12-2013, 05:06 PM

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Modern Arab nationalism can be traced from the days of the Ottoman Empire. It was transformed under British and French colonial rule. It underwent more changes while the Arabs struggled against Israel and then the US.

The next stage of Arab nationalism came in the form of al-Qaeda and "global jihad". It is a reaction to the humiliation that they've been facing for the last 100 years. It's about reclaiming Arab pride.

Arabs consider non-Arabs (especially Afghans and south Asians) as inferior people. Even Assyrians, Egyptians, Berbers and other originally non-Arab people whose cultures and languages have been wiped out by centuries of Arab culture and military imperialism look down on non-Arabs. An Arab will never accept an Indian religious scholar or a mujajideen leader. Even during Mullah Omar's rule in Afghanistan, the Arabs answered to Osama bin Laden and not the inferior Pashtun. After all, they speak Arabic (the language of the Quran) and are the same people as Prophet Mohammad so they are superior to us in every way.
Very poor historical recollection and missing a plethora of factual information. This warrants a C+. The plus is for effort and the C is the gentleman's C.

Here is the American Conservative Journal discussing the real roots of Arab Nationalism in that tumultuous era:

http://www.theamericanconservative.c...k-eradication/

"Determined to avoid a repetition of the horrors of 1915, Christians struggled to create a new political order in which they could play a full role. This meant advocating fervent Arab nationalism, a thoroughly secular order in which Christians and other minorities could avoid being overwhelmed by the juggernaut power of Sunni Islam. All Arab peoples, regardless of faith, would join in a shared passion for secular modernity and pan-Arab patriotism, in stark contrast to reactionary Islamism. The pioneering theorist of modern Arab nationalism was Damascus-born Orthodox Christian Constantine Zureiq. Another Orthodox son of Damascus was Michel Aflaq, co-founder of the Ba’ath (Renaissance) Party that played such a pivotal role in the modern history of both Iraq and Syria."

So in summary, secular Arab nationalism was a device created by these minorities to usurp the will of the people and, what Pew data and the University of Maryland Polling along with Dalia Mogahed and Esposito's work show to be the ideo-religious inclination of sunni Muslims in governance.

This is the same reason atheists, failed communists, Mirzais, Ahmadiyas, Shiite groupings, and others constitute the vocal bulk of Pashtun nationalists - it is their way to conjure a narrative that relies on denying the overwhelming will of the majority by cloaking their crypto ideologies in the cloth of "nationalism."


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