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Default 01-09-2014, 12:55 PM

Very good analysis Gulalai jan
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Default 01-09-2014, 12:59 PM

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ډیر ښه
زما په خیال "پته" پښتو لغت دی
په دی چی په اردو کښی ډیر پښتو لغات شته.
بل داسی لغت "ګاړی" دی چی په اردو کښی موټر ته وایی
ځنی لغات په پښتو کښی نه شته په هم دی د نورو ژبو څخه
اغستل شوې دې .

انډیوال ملګری ته وایی او دا درواغ دی چی دا د پارسی لغت دی.
دی ورزو کښی پارسیوانان هم دا لغت استعمالوی.

خاله او ترور دوه جلا لغات دې
ترور د پلار خور ته وایل کیږی اوخاله د مور خور ته
za fikr kawom che "pata" kho urdu tike de ao sama pakhto ke na razi, zaka khali pekhawar ke der wayel kegi.

wo, hum dase ma hum waile che kala kala kam tikai che yi hagha ba pakhto yi ao farsi ya urdu tike ba hum yi ao haghe ke sa ghalati nishta. Laka was "موټر" kho bekhi english tike na raghale "motor"

Khala kho bekhi farsi tike de. Khabara yema che da plar khor ta tror wayel kegi kho da me kala na di awredali che da mor khor ta khala wayi.

Da iranayno farsi ke tror ta hum ameh wayi ao khaleh wayi, so now i'm assuming both ama and khala are derived from farsi.

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Your'e saying andiwal is dari but dari itself has 45% pashto vocab lol.
that's true, its better to compare it to actual farsi instead of dari since dari has adopted many pashto words.

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Default 01-09-2014, 01:04 PM

Word: Awal (first)
Language: Arabic
Pashto Term: Wrombay / ړومبى

Word: Garam (warm)
Language: Farsi & Urdu
Pashto Term: Tod

Word: Sawal (question)
Language: Farsi & Urdu
Pashto Term: Pokhtana / پوښتنه

Word: Kapra (cloth)
Language: Urdu
Pashto Term: Rakht / رخت

Word: Sahi (correct)
Language: Urdu
Pashto Term: Sam / سم


Though I feel as if "garam" and "awal" are considered pashto words too, no?

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Very good analysis Gulalai jan
hahaha go away.

Why don't you shed some light. Do you guys use the term "andiwal" in dari?
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Word: Awal (first)
Language: Arabic
Pashto Term: Wrombay / ړومبى

Word: Garam (warm)
Language: Farsi & Urdu
Pashto Term: Tod

Word: Sawal (question)
Language: Farsi & Urdu
Pashto Term: Pokhtana / پوښتنه

Word: Kapra (cloth)
Language: Urdu
Pashto Term: Rakht / رخت

Word: Sahi (correct)
Language: Urdu
Pashto Term: Sam / سم


Though I feel as if "garam" and "awal" are considered pashto words too, no?



hahaha go away.

Why don't you shed some light. Do you guys use the term "andiwal" in dari?
Yeah we use the word "Andiwal" for "friend" but "Amdiwal" would mean "Neighbour." That's what they used when I visited Kabul as well. It may differ throughout different regions though.
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Default 01-09-2014, 01:24 PM

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he should write own dictionary and textbook of pashto
pseudo-experts on Pashtu At least Dagarwal and his friend Kushan princess defend on their own stupid way our -ism. One day they will also have the knowledge.

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while in dari they say dost, rafiq , and lately use the pashto word andiwal.
rafiq is arabic but common in dari and pashtu, so is ashna in dari, panjabi, siraki, baluchi and other languages. Andiwal is exclusively from kaboli dialects of dari or eastern farsiwan dialects and some use it even in uzbekistan right behind the border as hamdiwar. Pashtu adoptet it via Kabulis Darispeaking Logaris and Laghmanis. Just Farsi (Iran) dont know andiwal because andiwal is an eastern word and maybe archaic but for sure old. The words you mentioned, except malgarai are used in dari and pashtu.

''I last saw Tim Hetherington exactly a month ago in Brooklyn, the night before he left for Libya. I can’t remember the last time I saw Chris Hondros: It might have been years ago, probably in Baghdad. As I search for the right word to describe our relationship, I can’t honestly call it friendship. The closest concept that comes to mind is “andiwal,” a Persian word that translates roughly as “bonds of war.” We were part of a network of professional war tourists, and we sometimes crossed paths in the distant, messed up places that rational people avoid. I can barely remember their photographs, even as I struggle to rationalize their deaths, or justify the risks they took to make them.''

KIA in the Age of Facebook | Dart Center for Journalism & Trauma

The Psychology of Friendship and Enmity: Relationships in Love, Work ... - Rom Harré, Fathali M. Moghaddam - Google Books
KĀBOLI

''Phonology. The eight-vowel system of Kāboli is typical of eastern Persian dialects in having lost length distinction. The qualitative distinction that remains additionally distinguishes Stable vowels, which do not vary in quality even when unstressed (î, ę, â, ô, ű in Table 1, corresponding to the long vowels of Classical Persian), and Unstable vowels, which may vary in quality when unstressed (a, i, u, historically the short vowels).


Kāboli vowels exhibit considerable variation across dialect and even idiolect. Thus, â may be more rounded [ɒ], as in the Panjšēr valley, or less so [ɑ], as in Kabul city. Unstable i and u may be articulated lower, closer to Persian e and o (as they are transcribed in some descriptions of Kāboli). The paired vowels î [i] and i [ɪ], ű [u] and u [ʊ], may share the same point of articulation and in fact differ in other features (tense vs. lax, or long vs. short).



Flapped or trilled r is replaced by l in some words: dęwâl ‘wall,’ andęwâl ‘neighbor’ (< ham-dęwâr ‘sharing a wall’), sayl kardan ‘to look’ (< Arab. sayr ‘stroll, look around’). In some high-frequency words, non-initial r is lost: byâdar ‘brother’ (< birâdar), kadan ‘to do,’ kadum ‘I did’ (< kardam).''
K?BOLI ? Encyclopaedia Iranica


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Bachem, the word "dari" itself was created by pashtuns for your langauge
in Afgahnistan only gays say bachem to their boys ...you knew this? lol thank you. Now i know you better. No interest, sir.

Dari means court. It is shortened from Darbar you uneducated ''linguist scholar''. If you hail from north you would know that every second person there use the word andiwal. Actually all, every youth I have met ...
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Bro the suffix "Wal" is pashto.

Nuff said. We have to compare this word to iranian farsi not dari since it has a lot of borrowings from pashto.
the suffix "wal" is pashto which make a word to a noun, the noun with this suffix mark a person


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-wal/wala and -mal are actually Indian... but you as a linguist scholar on languages know this surely better than we do lol
i have learned that -wal/walay make a noun from another word but i don't know the origin of these suffix


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i have learned that -wal/walay make a noun from another word but i don't know the origin of these suffix
yes
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Default 01-09-2014, 02:10 PM

word theek from Urdu is sam or sama (ok, correct, right)

Urdu numbers. eik, do teen, char. sath, sattar etc are used commonly by Pakistani Pashtuns. We may use pure Pashto numbers, yaw, dwe, dre, tsalor , shpeta, awya etc instead

Urdu words shukrya or mehrabani and Persian tashakur for pure Pashto manana

Persian names of days of the week , shanba,yak shanba, do shanba, se shanba, char shanba, panjshanba, juma instead of Pashto pure words like adeena, khali, itbar, gwel, naha, shoro , zyarat

Pashto Hijri calandar months names like wrhambai khor, dwayama khor, dreyama khor, salorama khor, Zbarga, shoqadar, roja, urhokey akhtar, khali, loy akhtar, asaan, should be used instead of Arabic words like Muharram, Zeela haj, ramadan, rajab, shawal etc

Afghan calandar's Pashto months names Woray, Ghowayay, Ghbarghole, Changaskh,Zmaray,Wagay,Tala,Larrm,Leenda,Marghumay ,Selwaga,Kab instead of its Persian counterparts.
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Default 01-09-2014, 02:18 PM

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i have learned that -wal/walay make a noun from another word but i don't know the origin of these suffix
-wal/wala and -mal are actually Indian. -Mal maybe be from Kashmir... but you as a linguist scholar on languages know this surely better than we do lol wal can be translated being from or can describe what you are doing. Your job.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallah

Kabuliwalla, a book written by bengali author Tagore.
Paktiawal
Kabuliwalla used by Indians to call Afghans in Delhi ...
Pashtunwali, what a Pashtun have to do. His job!

Karmal: Work-Possessioner (his real name was barialay). Khalqi Pashtuns called him Kar Ghal (work thief)

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