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Default 11-10-2017, 08:16 PM

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I oppose it. The fundamental principle of Islam is sovereignty rests with God, including legislative sovereignty. I've never cast a ballot in my life and never will
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I oppose it. The fundamental principle of Islam is sovereignty rests with God, including legislative sovereignty. I've never cast a ballot in my life and never will
Islam is not against democracy. Shura is democratic.
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How can a stupid persons vote be the same as that of a wise person?
the rights of a stupid person should be equal to a wise person.
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Default 11-10-2017, 10:43 PM

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Islam is not against democracy. Shura is democratic.
Like how are people supposed to get things done related to social welfare, educational and healthcare spending, infrastructure development. These Theocracy fanboys are insane.


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Default 11-10-2017, 10:50 PM

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Whats your stance on democracy?
True democracies don't exist because they don't work. Democratic republics aren't true democracies so one has to judge them on their constitution.

The American constitution is pretty good but many governments have violated it.
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Like how are people supposed to get things done related to social welfare, educational and healthcare spending, infrastructure development. These Theocracy fanboys are insane.
Many people falsely think democracy is a kafur system since the West is promoting it verbally but not through action ie overthrow of democratically elected Iranian mosaddeq and Egyptian Morsi. What the West is promoting through action is Western liberalism so people automatically think Western liberalism is democracy. Democracy existed long before Western liberalism.
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I've never cast a ballot in my life and never will
People that don't vote are immoral since they are intentionally staying silent when given the chance to speak up on what should be or should not be done. When evil triumphs and you stayed silent given the opportunity to speak against it, then you are complicit in the actions that are taken.

Evil triumphs when good people stay silent.
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the rights of a stupid person should be equal to a wise person.
Getting to make decisions for an entire nation shouldn't be a right. It's a privilege that only capable people should have.

If you ran an engineering firm and were designing a new product, would you consider the opinions of your janitors and your engineers equally?
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Getting to make decisions for an entire nation shouldn't be a right. It's a privilege that only capable people should have.

If you ran an engineering firm and were designing a new product, would you consider the opinions of your janitors and your engineers equally?
That's kind of a false equivalence wouldn't you say? Also, we're not talking about specialized things like design, but people's welfare and interests/


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Default 11-10-2017, 11:13 PM

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Getting to make decisions for an entire nation shouldn't be a right. It's a privilege that only capable people should have.
As long as those decisions affect the person, that person has every right to have a say.

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If you ran an engineering firm and were designing a new product, would you consider the opinions of your janitors and your engineers equally?
If the product is for the janitor, by default the janitor's input is vital to the success of the product.
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