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Default Whats going on in Canada? - 09-13-2017, 10:40 AM

So with time i have across some people on the Pakistani forum (Punjabis, Kashmiris and Mohajirs) residing in Canada who were using same language as Tarek Fateh of Canada and had same weird and twisted views on Islam and Muslims as him . I felt they had attended same classes as as Karachi and Toramana of this forum. Whats going on there?. Is some organization there working on them?. It can not be coincidence that Karachi, Toramana and those Pakistani guys of Canadian citizenship have extraordinarily similar views , as if they are listening to a same teacher in the class.
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So with time i have across some people on the Pakistani forum (Punjabis, Kashmiris and Mohajirs) residing in Canada who were using same language as Tarek Fateh of Canada and had same weird and twisted views on Islam and Muslims as him . I felt they had attended same classes as as Karachi and Toramana of this forum. Whats going on there?. Is some organization there working on them?. It can not be coincidence that Karachi, Toramana and those Pakistani guys of Canadian citizenship have extraordinarily similar views , as if they are listening to a same teacher in the class.
They are probably forced to adopt and propagate these views in order to obtain Canadian citizenship lol.
@Elite Pakhtun should be better equipped to answer your question since he lives there , but thankfully is sane enough not to go down the path of Tarek Fateh and co.
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Default 09-13-2017, 01:50 PM

Muslims are very weak in the Americas. A lot of people try way too hard to fit in here, and abandon everything about their religion and culture except for the most superficial aspects.

South America is even worse than North, by the way. The community there is mostly Arab, but a lot of them have pretty much completely integrated into the local populations and abandoned Islam. Sadly, I think the same will probably happen to most Muslims in Canada and the US within a few generations.

But the people who are active in Muslim communities tend to be nothing like these losers. It's usually people on the outskirts of the Muslim community, or people who barely practiced Islam in the first place, who end up with these ideologies.

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They are probably forced to adopt and propagate these views in order to obtain Canadian citizenship lol.
@Elite Pakhtun should be better equipped to answer your question since he lives there , but thankfully is sane enough not to go down the path of Tarek Fateh and co.
Neither Canada nor the US forces anyone to act like this to gain citizenship. Plenty of strict Muslims live in both countries with little resistance, Alhamdulillah. Canada has hardcore Deobandi and Salafi madrasas that probable receive less harassment than the ones in Arab countries. These people prostitute themselves by choice, not by force.

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Default 09-13-2017, 01:52 PM

I don't know who Tariq fatah is (guy with rumi hat??) but pakistanies in Canada don't typically integrate with other communities and tend to stick to their own.
What is the "Tarik fatah language"??
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Default 09-13-2017, 03:21 PM

Canada and USA only accepts the so called middle class educated pakistani mostly from lahore, Karachi, Isb most of these people are not religous to begin with, once they migrate abroad into individualistic society they eventually they lose their religion, europe is different because all types of muslims migrate there, poor, rich educated, uneducated.
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Default 09-13-2017, 05:42 PM

I never paid attention to it. I have met some like that in Canada. I've also met them in Pakistan.

I'm pretty sure many were non-religious before even migrating. I doubt much changed in Canada.

Karachi is not likely a Pakistani to begin with.
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Default 09-13-2017, 05:48 PM

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They are probably forced to adopt and propagate these views in order to obtain Canadian citizenship lol.
No. Citizenship application is based on a points system. Its very objective. The wait times etc I can't speak for, but to be qualified is based on points.
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Karachi is not likely a Pakistani to begin with.
It's super obvious he's a mentally-ill Indian. Does anyone actually believe that he's Pakistani?
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No. Citizenship application is based on a points system. Its very objective. The wait times etc I can't speak for, but to be qualified is based on points.
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Default 09-13-2017, 10:14 PM

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Neither Canada nor the US forces anyone to act like this to gain citizenship. Plenty of strict Muslims live in both countries with little resistance, Alhamdulillah. Canada has hardcore Deobandi and Salafi madrasas that probable receive less harassment than the ones in Arab countries. These people prostitute themselves by choice, not by force.
Haha I was just kidding there.
But seriously , its not just about being religious or non-religious.
Samandri was pointing towards the prevalence of Canadian migrants bashing and showing their hatred for Islam and Muslims almost obsessively.
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