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Arabs do not wear any partoog underneath their thawb, only underwear. Its not elegant and comfortable dress like Partoog Qamees.
Arabs tend to live in a warm climate. Nevertheless, the principle of Islamic dress is that dress which is more modest and concealing of nakedness is preferable. Thus while it is known that the Prophet (Sallallahu alaihi wasallam) wore a waist wrap (Izaar), he would prefer people to wear the Silwaar (loose trousers). Now many Arabs wear trouser like garment such as silwaar under the thawb/qamees. Both forms of dress are alright, but in both cases the Qamees should be longer and looser fitting. Silwaar should also be loose and broad. Hence the only real difference which remains between the Arab style Qamees and the Afghan one is that the Afghan one will have a cutting on the sides for better mobility, otherwise they are both very similar kind of dress, both elegant and modest.

Therefore, I would consider the Afghan dress as more Islamic if the kameez is long down to the shins, and not the standard length of being above the knees

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Arabs tend to live in a warm climate. Nevertheless, the principle of Islamic dress is that dress which is more modest and concealing of nakedness is preferable. Thus while it is known that the Prophet (Sallallahu alaihi wasallam) wore a waist wrap (Izaar), he would prefer people to wear the Silwaar (loose trousers). Now many Arabs wear trouser like garment such as silwaar under the thawb/qamees. Both forms of dress are alright, but in both cases the Qamees should be longer and looser fitting. Silwaar should also be loose and broad. Hence the only real difference which remains between the Arab style Qamees and the Afghan one is that the Afghan one will have a cutting on the sides for better mobility, otherwise they are both very similar kind of dress, both elegant and modest.

Therefore, I would consider the Afghan dress as more Islamic if the kameez is long down to the shins, and not the standard length of being above the knees
Traditional shalwar is never above the knees, its up to the knees or slightly below knees. Arab's thawb is up to up to ankles because they do not wear shalwar. In Shalwar-Kameez, you do not need to extend the qamees up to ankles as nakedness of the legs is covered by shalwar.



Arab dress is like dhoti of Indians, becomes an awkward scene when he falls on his back and exposes inner view of his thawb/dhoti . Warm climate should not be an excuse as their women wear heavy black clothing in the blazing sunlight.
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Traditional shalwar is never above the knees, its up to the knees or slightly below knees. Arab's thawb is up to up to ankles because they do not wear shalwar. In Shalwar-Kameez, you do not need to extend the qamees up to ankles as nakedness of the legs is covered by shalwar.



Arab dress is like dhoti of Indians, becomes an awkward scene when he falls on his back and exposes inner view of his thawb/dhoti . Warm climate should not be an excuse as their women wear heavy black clothing in the blazing sunlight.
I am not saying that kameez should be long for the purpose of covering nakedness, but that kameez should be longer, reaching down to the shins, as this is something that closely resembles the Qamees of the Arabs which the Prophet (Sallallahu alaihi wasallam) wore. Longer kameez in Indian subcontinent and Afghanistan is associated with religiosity, whereas short kameez is the standard form.
Hence the kameez should be long to the extent that when you are in a seated position the kameez fully covers your knees and isn't raised up to the thighs

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I am not saying that kameez should be long for the purpose of covering nakedness, but that kameez should be longer, reaching down to the shins, as this is something that closely resembles the Qamees of the Arabs which the Prophet (Sallallahu alaihi wasallam) wore. Longer kameez in Indian subcontinent and Afghanistan is associated with religiosity, whereas short kameez is the standard form.
Hence the kameez should be long to the extent that when you are in a seated position the kameez fully covers your knees and isn't raised up to the thighs
Brother, with all due respect.....you are in a strange strange bubble.

In Afghanistan and Pakistan- a long qamees is NOT associated with being religious-it just means your tailor hasn't measured you up properly. The recommendation for us was to keep our garments above the ankles so no cloth is below that part-it wasn't specified whether it has to be a thobe or trousers-as long as they are above the ankle.

What on Earh difference would it make if you had a long or a short qamees and your trousers were above the ankles? I have never heard or even thought about a sitting position where your shirt should cover your knees. Most "shalwar kamees" shirts would offer ample coverage anyway.

I am sure the prophet (pbuh) didn't wear trousers like we do and like most of the people of that era just wore a normal Arabic style thobe with other accessories like a shawl or cloth. If you want your qamees to look like a thobe then you may as well wear a thobe without the trousers like Arabs do- I don't know what they wear underneath in terms of undergarments. No point in making your qamees a different version of Arabic dress.

I find all your posts strange- sometimes you associate yourself with being a Punjabi, sometimes a Hyderabadi Indian, sometimes only and just only a Muslim.

I personally do not like the Arab style clothing that all the Arabs walk around in. I think our khat partoog are far more comfortable and look much better. That doesn't make me more or less Muslim.
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Brother, with all due respect.....you are in a strange strange bubble.

In Afghanistan and Pakistan- a long qamees is NOT associated with being religious-it just means your tailor hasn't measured you up properly.

Respectfully disagree. It is most definitely associated with religiosity. Consider the dress preferred by the preachers of Tablighi Jama'at and Da'wat-e-Islami groups and more recently the Naqshbandi-Saifi silsila (followers of Akhundzada Pir Saif ur Rahman Mubarak), they wear lengthy kameez. As do the Pirs, Ulama, Mashayikh, Gaddi Nashins, etc. This is also true in Afghanistan:




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The recommendation for us was to keep our garments above the ankles so no cloth is below that part-it wasn't specified whether it has to be a thobe or trousers-as long as they are above the ankle.

What on Earh difference would it make if you had a long or a short qamees and your trousers were above the ankles?

A long kameez is associated with being religious, as it is closer to the Sunnah of the Prophet (Sallallahu alaihi wasallam) as I already explained.


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I find all your posts strange- sometimes you associate yourself with being a Punjabi, sometimes a Hyderabadi Indian, sometimes only and just only a Muslim.
You should read my intro then, there I explained that my mother is Punjabi from Multan and my father is Hyderabadi, therefore I am of mixed heritage. But in terms of identity, I only identify as a Muslim.
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Respectfully disagree. It is most definitely associated with religiosity. Consider the dress preferred by the preachers of Tablighi Jama'at and Da'wat-e-Islami groups and more recently the Naqshbandi-Saifi silsila (followers of Akhundzada Pir Saif ur Rahman Mubarak), they wear lengthy kameez. As do the Pirs, Ulama, Mashayikh, Gaddi Nashins, etc. This is also true in Afghanistan:






A long kameez is associated with being religious, as it is closer to the Sunnah of the Prophet (Sallallahu alaihi wasallam) as I already explained.




You should read my intro then, there I explained that my mother is Punjabi from Multan and my father is Hyderabadi, therefore I am of mixed heritage. But in terms of identity, I only identify as a Muslim.
You don't need to shout with your font.
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The length of kamees of Taliban varies from region to region , its in accordance with the style popular in their native area . The very long kamees is actually style of people of Kandahar.




Here are photographs of Taliban with kamees up to knee ;



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The length of kamees of Taliban varies from region to region , its in accordance with the style popular in their native area . The very long kamees is actually style of people of Kandahar.




Here are photographs of Taliban with kamees up to knee ;




The Kandahar style is obviously superior. Not only does it look more formal and elegant, it makes the person look taller.
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The Kandahar style is obviously superior. Not only does it look more formal and elegant, it makes the person look taller.
Wtf? Are you in your senses?
You say this to a Pashtun wearing long Khat/Kamis, he's gonna scold you!!
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Wtf? Are you in your senses?
You say this to a Pashtun wearing long Khat/Kamis, he's gonna scold you!!
What's wrong?
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