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A village where "gypsies" are living. They are normally not working but begging and stealing all what is possible. Stealing even such minor things like flowers from a garden. Their children will throw stones into your window just because you will not have 'sukha roti' and they are late to get some fresh. They will drop stone into your sister just because she does not look like their mothers. They will do everything to make your life horrible. And it is them who are always disturbing everyone. They are gathering garbage, they are living in garbage and they never want to come out from garbage and will never do anything good for other people.
Sounds like a horrible group of people. Sadly, the reality is that they do not live under such circumstances out of free will. They are a product of corrupt and criminal society which is treating its most volnurable as rodents. Hence foreigners like you assume that they are gypsies and live to be in their current state.


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A village where "gypsies" are living. They are normally not working but begging and stealing all what is possible. Stealing even such minor things like flowers from a garden. Their children will throw stones into your window just because you will not have 'sukha roti' and they are late to get some fresh. They will drop stone into your sister just because she does not look like their mothers. They will do everything to make your life horrible. And it is them who are always disturbing everyone. They are gathering garbage, they are living in garbage and they never want to come out from garbage and will never do anything good for other people.
I have to be frank but despite the political correctness of the western media, what you have just said is the sort of behaviour in general terms (and far worse) of Gypsies in Europe, who are often engaged in criminality.

I know they originate from somewhere around Pakistan/Kashmir but to read of the gypsies there being more or less like the gypsies thousands of miles away in Europe is astonishing. I wonder what it is that makes them like that.


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Sounds like a horrible group of people. Sadly, the reality is that they do not live under such circumstances out of free will. They are a product of corrupt and criminal society which is treating its most volnurable as rodents. Hence foreigners like you assume that they are gypsies and live to be in their current state.
Oh if they can't live in a different way, then how others can!
I would use another word for them, not 'gypsies', but it would be very impolite. So better let them be gypsies


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I have to be frank but despite the political correctness of the western media, what you have just said is the sort of behaviour in general terms (and far worse) of Gypsies in Europe, who are often engaged in criminality.

I know they originate from somewhere around Pakistan/Kashmir but to read of the gypsies there being more or less like the gypsies thousands of miles away in Europe is astonishing. I wonder what it is that makes them like that.
She is observing Pakistan through her own European glasses. I've seen gypsies in Eastern Europe, and now since the inclusion of Romania into EU, we have millions of Roma's here running amok:






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Oh if they can't live in a different way, then how others can!
I would use another word for them, not 'gypsies', but it would be very impolite. So better let them be gypsies


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Its easy for you to speak. You have no idea how people end up in those circumstances.


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I have to be frank but despite the political correctness of the western media, what you have just said is the sort of behaviour in general terms (and far worse) of Gypsies in Europe, who are often engaged in criminality.

I know they originate from somewhere around Pakistan/Kashmir but to read of the gypsies there being more or less like the gypsies thousands of miles away in Europe is astonishing. I wonder what it is that makes them like that.
Actually many locals calls them gypsies, so it is not my own definition.


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Actually many locals calls them gypsies, so it is not my own definition.


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what is the word for gypsy in local language?


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This is how they were called in English language by locals


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This is how they were called in English language by locals


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And yes, I was very surprised to hear this name for those people but different people from different parts of Pk used it to explain what kind of tribe is this


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You were hanging around the wrong kind of people.


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