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prince
03-06-2010, 01:20 AM
PESHAWAR: All that the Pakistani Taliban wanted was money and that's all they talked about, says Gurvinder Singh, one of the two Sikhs from Peshawar who were rescued after 40 days of captivity with the Pashtun-speaking terrorists. The Taliban beheaded the third abducted Sikh trader last month because their ransom demand wasn't met.

Gurvinder's story blows the myth the Pakistani Taliban has built around itself as a band of fighters for Islam.

"All the bandits wanted was money. They were not religious men. We did not see any one of them offering prayers even once," he said at his home in Peshawar's Mohallah Jagan Shah. The area near Khyber Pass, from where they were rescued, is under the influence of Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan commanders Nazir Afridi, Adnan Afridi and Tariq Afridi.

While Surjeet Singh was rescued on Monday along with Gurvinder and they were reunited with their families in Peshawar, Jaspal Singh was beheaded after the families failed to raise the ransom of 30 million Pakistani rupees within the deadline. Jaspal's decapitated body was found on February 21.

"We were shackled and chained for 40 days, given only rotis and tea and kicked and beaten black and blue," Gurvinder told TOI. The 17-year-old described for the first time the horror that the three faced at the hands of their captors.

Belonging to the 3,000-strong Sikh community of Peshawar, mostly petty traders and business families, the three set out on January 19 to sell merchandise in some small towns nestled in the Tirah Valley near the Khyber Pass, that is the doorway to Central Asia from Pakistan. They had traversed these badlands before and Pashtun terrorists had always let them be. But not this time.

"When we reached Mathra area in Khyber tribal region, we were stopped by some 12 militants. All of them were holding AK-47 rifles. Some of them covered their faces with a long piece of cloth hanging from their turbans. They dragged out the driver from his seat, slapped him on the face and ordered him to hand over the car and leave," Gurvinder said. "While some of the militants were grappling with the driver, two of our co-travellers found an opportunity to escape but we were bundled into the vehicle and driven away."

Their humiliation began in the vehicle. The Taliban abductors ripped out their turbans, blindfolded them and cuffed their hands behind their backs. After more than an hour's drive along a bumpy, rugged road, the vehicle stopped.

"Our blindfolds and handcuffs came off. There were mountains all around. They asked us to follow the three militants while the rest walked behind us with their rifles trained." In that formation, they trekked across the mountains for five hours. "We reached two small huts where three other militants were waiting. We were told to sit on the ground. One man with scissors came to us and started cutting Jaspal's hair short. Then came Surjeet's turn and finally it was mine."

He said when Jaspal started crying and wailing loudly, one of the abductors kicked him in the back, shouting at him to shut up. "However, another militant with long, curly hair brought tea and thick rotis and asked him to stop kicking Jaspal," he said, his eyes glazing a bit. "For the next 40 days, tea and bread was our only meal."

According to Gurvinder, as darkness set in on the first night of captivity, the militants took them into one of the huts and put metal chains with iron fetters on their feet.

That became routine. "In the morning they used to open our chains, take us out and put chains back at night."

On the first morning, Gurvinder said, the terrorists asked for the phone numbers of their family members and elders of the Sikh community. "At noon, they started contacting our family members in front of us and it was then that we came to know that we were kidnapped for ransom. They warned our families not to disclose this episode and arrange 50 million rupees. It came down to 20 million in the next few days."

The talks between the captors and Sikh elders on the one hand and physical torture of the captives on the other continued for weeks to come. "Always before contacting our family, they used to beat us violently so that our family would feel the pain and pay the ransom," Gurvinder said.

After three weeks, the abductors set an ultimatum, threatening to kill one of the hostages if their demand was not met by February 19. On February 18, the militants took away Jaspal, Gurvinder said. After two days, they were told that Jaspal was dead.

"But we didn't trust them and thought they might be using it as a pressure tactic to get money," he said.
Gurvinder is certain he and Surjeet would have been dead by now, had not the Pakistani military operation been successful. "Our chains had not yet been opened that morning when we heard helicopters hovering and bursts of gunfire. The three militants inside our hut rushed out and we were left alone."

He and Surjeet crawled out of the dusty hut, the latter now bleeding from bullet wounds in the stomach. They could not see anybody but the gunfire was incessant.

"Then we saw Pakistani soldiers. We put our hands up."

The soldiers first refused to believe that the two bedraggled men were indeed the kidnapped Sikhs. "We had no turbans and our hair was cut short. Finally, they asked us to remove our shalwars to check whether we were circumcised or not. And then we were airlifted in a chopper from the area and brought to Peshawar," he said.







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shinwari
03-06-2010, 10:19 PM
Wow that is very sad.

king_zazai
03-09-2010, 01:11 AM
C this is the damn "paki" fake garbage taliban....damn paki ppl started this corrput taliban long time ago it was not like this the taliban was clean and the afghan side but now its all just so corrput and just discutsting

Master Khan
03-09-2010, 11:57 AM
All Talibans are corrput.
they use Islam and people's lives to make money.

shinwari
03-09-2010, 04:55 PM
^I beg to differ, But your opinion is yours.

Roshina
03-09-2010, 07:31 PM
Yep, that's true.

Most of the suicide bombers are young males, often under the age of 20, who are fooled into believing that they will get 72 virgins AND a lot of money.
Some of my neighbors in Swat who chose to become Taliban were really poor. This one in particular, a neighbor of my grandparents', had 2 wives and a ton of children. His mother begged him not to accept the "position" because, she told him, "If you die, who will take care of us?" h told her she'll have much more money once he dies than she could ever have with him alive.

She swore to him that she will never forgive him once he dies.... and then when the news of his death reached her, she begged God's forgiveness for having said such a thing to her poor son!

So, really, much of the time, these Taliban choose what they do because there's a LOT of money offered to them. If they had good education and could get better, healthier, and safer jobs otherwise, they most likely woudln't choose to be Taliban.

You see, "Pakistan is one of eight countries worldwide that spend less than 2% of GDP on education," according to BBC's article "Pakistan: Key facts." (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/629/629/7247481.stm)

So, um, yeah! We shouldn't be surprised.

shinwari
03-09-2010, 08:22 PM
Yep, that's true.

Most of the suicide bombers are young males, often under the age of 20, who are fooled into believing that they will get 72 virgins AND a lot of money.
Some of my neighbors in Swat who chose to become Taliban were really poor. This one in particular, a neighbor of my grandparents', had 2 wives and a ton of children. His mother begged him not to accept the "position" because, she told him, "If you die, who will take care of us?" h told her she'll have much more money once he dies than she could ever have with him alive.

She swore to him that she will never forgive him once he dies.... and then when the news of his death reached her, she begged God's forgiveness for having said such a thing to her poor son!

So, really, much of the time, these Taliban choose what they do because there's a LOT of money offered to them. If they had good education and could get better, healthier, and safer jobs otherwise, they most likely woudln't choose to be Taliban.

You see, "Pakistan is one of eight countries worldwide that spend less than 2% of GDP on education," according to BBC's article "Pakistan: Key facts." (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/629/629/7247481.stm)

So, um, yeah! We shouldn't be surprised.

Out of the 2percent of GDP spent I am sure 1.5 percent goes to Punjab alone.

Roshina
03-09-2010, 09:31 PM
Out of the 2percent of GDP spent I am sure 1.5 percent goes to Punjab alone.
lol. Totally! Maybe more, even! It's Pakistan we're talking about.

shinwari
03-09-2010, 09:52 PM
nice to see we share a common opinion.

Roshina
03-09-2010, 10:30 PM
nice to see we share a common opinion.
haha :P I'm sure we have more in common than I may make it seem like :)

Roshina
03-09-2010, 11:07 PM
Taliban made Pakistan look bad.
Not that Pakistan was any better without or before the Taliban anyway!

Besides, who created the Taliban? Who nurtured them? ... Who funds them?

Roshina
03-10-2010, 03:51 PM
Pakistan did not "create" them, they supported them.
Taliban was created in Kandahar, by Pashtuns.
No, actually, the U.S. created (well, funded, since the people already existed and wanted freedom from the Soviets) the Mujahideen, not the Taliban. (They're not the same, for those who think they are.)
The ISI (Pakistan) created the Taliban in the early 90s during Benazair's reign; the purpose was to install a Pakistan-friendly puppet regime in Kabul. Afghanistan had already been ruined, anyway, so it wasn't difficult to destabilize it further.

Palwasha
03-10-2010, 04:02 PM
^*Really* sorry to avert the topic - was just wondering khoray, as you're quite into politics...what you think of Benazir?

She spent time as PM while you were living in Pak, I think..

Roshina
03-10-2010, 04:18 PM
^*Really* sorry to avert the topic - was just wondering khoray, as you're quite into politics...what you think of Benazir?

She spent time as PM while you were living in Pak, I think..
lol ... do I HAAAAAAAVE to answer that, guley? :D I can talk on her personality but don't wanna talk on her political side.... k?

See, the one thing I admired about her was that she left her footsteps for other women to follow :) Her boldness, valor, and confidence need to be appreciated and respected, and we can learn much from her courage.

Her book Daughter of the East is also worth a read.

Palwasha
03-10-2010, 06:10 PM
...aha, right I see. So you're a fan of her, interesting. Yeah I do admit she had courage and confidence, find it hard to compliment her otherwise.


lol ... do I HAAAAAAAVE to answer that, guley? :D I can talk on her personality but don't wanna talk on her political side.... k?


Lol, yeah that's fine. Manana :)

Roshina
03-10-2010, 06:19 PM
...aha, right I see. So you're a fan of her, interesting. Yeah I do admit she had courage and confidence, find it hard to compliment her otherwise.

lol Nope :P I'm not a fan of her. I only think she could be a good role model for Muslim women.

shah nawaz
03-10-2010, 08:00 PM
Pakistan did not "create" them, they supported them.
Taliban was created in Kandahar, by Pashtuns.
No, actually, the U.S. created (well, funded, since the people already existed and wanted freedom from the Soviets) the Mujahideen, not the Taliban. (They're not the same, for those who think they are.)
The ISI (Pakistan) created the Taliban in the early 90s during Benazair's reign; the purpose was to install a Pakistan-friendly puppet regime in Kabul. Afghanistan had already been ruined, anyway, so it wasn't difficult to destabilize it further.

What are you talking about? Even Zardari admitted it was made in Pakistan.

I had to register to stop the ignorance being spread.