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Zarawar
07-26-2010, 02:59 PM
ATTAN wasn't that big in PASHTUNKHWA before talibanization.

ATTAN was infact made common in PASHTUNKHWA by the Afghans that migrated from Afghanistan during the soviet wars.

you could say in Afghanistan's case but not Pashtunkhwa because except for very small areas close to the border i.e. Zhob, Miram shah etc.

One of the main reasons why Attan slowed down was due to the increasing deaths in pashtun society. And, we all know that performing any kind of music or attan after someone had passed away in the tribe is a dis-respect.

Not to mention, Hezb e Islami and Taliban both had a big part in getting rid of Attan.

Regardless of both political parties, Attan and dhol was performed in Paktia and Wardak, even during the Taliban era.

Zarawar
07-26-2010, 03:15 PM
Well yes but Attan was also just as popular in Pakistan though, what makes you say that dear brother?

Because, Talibanization of Pakistan started after 2004. And I have lived and been to Pakistan before 2004.
Afghanistan has been in this mess since the 70s.
Even most of our Afghans would do the Indian/Panjabi style weddings, let alone Pakistanies.
Attan and Dholona were brought to Peshawar and other highly Afghan populated cities by Afghans.
Pakistan has so far succeeded in getting rid of the pop pashtu culture, Attan was suppose to bring all the tribes together. Pashtun tribes getting together to dance is not a good indicator for Pakistan, the bases of Pakistan was to divide Pashtuns. They can never tolerate something like this.....

Mayana
07-26-2010, 03:36 PM
LOL da Gham Taliban di sih laaa zma shayesta Attan ra marrawi =(
Khaaaaaaaaaaaawriiiiii di ye pa Sarrr siiiiihh!!

BLS_1919v2.0
07-26-2010, 03:38 PM
ATTAN wasn't that big in PASHTUNKHWA before talibanization.

ATTAN was infact made common in PASHTUNKHWA by the Afghans that migrated from Afghanistan during the soviet wars.

you could say in Afghanistan's case but not Pashtunkhwa because except for very small areas close to the border i.e. Zhob, Miram shah etc.

One of the main reasons why Attan slowed down was due to the increasing deaths in pashtun society. And, we all know that performing any kind of music or attan after someone had passed away in the tribe is a dis-respect.

Not to mention, Hezb e Islami and Taliban both had a big part in getting rid of Attan.

Regardless of both political parties, Attan and dhol was performed in Paktia and Wardak, even during the Taliban era.

Wror Jaana that is not really true. I have to make a correction here. Attanr is not very popular in Peshawar, and the Esepzye area (mardan, malakand division, swabaii). Outside of that region, attanr is very common and popular. The khattaks, marwats, Bangash, Kwattwaal, etc all perform it. It is just amongst the Yousafzais and peshawar areas that it is barely performed.

Zarawar
07-26-2010, 05:56 PM
^^
I mentioned those tribal areas (like marwats and wazir) or quetta.

Other than that, there is no attan to be found anywhere in Pashtunkhwa.

Zarawar
07-27-2010, 09:49 AM
Attan was never popular in Pakistan.

People of Paktya look at Attan as part of their own religion. ;)


Not really.

Zarawar
07-27-2010, 10:38 AM
Zarawar Paktiya people love Attan. My bestfriend is from Paktiya

All pashtuns like attan, we all come from Paktiya anyways.
But the best Attan is performed by Ghazni and Paktika (katawaz, shalgar, Qarabagh) etc

Zarawar
07-27-2010, 11:13 AM
Angaar is from Ghazni he posted his Attan one time here.


Nobody can beat the Attan performed in Katawaz, Qarabagh, Shelgar, Logar and Wardak....

Neza bazee (horse back riding), da taziano shkar (Afghan hound hunting), Rabab and Attan started from Ghazni and surrounding areas.

MazloomYarMasud
07-27-2010, 11:31 AM
Attan is part of our identity and culture

Zarawar
07-27-2010, 01:42 PM
is Ghazni dari speaking?

No, it's majority Pashtun..just like any other pashtun dominated province.

شمله ور خراساني
07-28-2010, 12:26 AM
Rise of terrorism in Pakistan has done several damages to Pakistan in the form of economic, social, as well as environmental losses. Pashto Attan is considered a rich part of pashtun culture which seems to be the most affected element of pashtun culture. As khyber pukhtunkhwa, a province populated by pashtuns, is considered to be the craddle of talibanization therefore it is obvious that pashtuns be the most affected ethnic group.
The problem started right after 9/11 when US attacked Afghanistan. Pakistani taliban are sometimes referred to as the outcome of US's decision to invade Afghanistan. If we analyze the demographics, we will see that the area which is known as khyber pukhtunkhwa (in Pakistan) used to be a part of Afghanistan some one century ago. It makes it clear that people across the border from these two countries have severe ties with each other. This is the reason why NATO army never got succeeded in stopping the cross border movement.
Pashtuns are also very strict as far as the religion is concerned therefore attack on Afghanistan was considered to be an attack on them as they consider them their own kind. Outsiders involvement was another factor that prevailed talibanization in the province which resulted in the high number of young ones being recruited on daily basis to carry out suicide attacks and other terrorist activities.
Pashto Attan before the Rise of Talibanization
So what was the scenario before all this happen? It was quite different. Nobody would ever believe that those who are now seen carrying guns and their faces covered were living a very vivid and rich life full of entertainment and cultural practices which included pahto attan. Attan is a traditional pashto dance which is practiced by pashtuns on different occasions. It may be a sport event, a religious festival, a wedding, or an election campaign.The pashto dance requires a wide open space to do it hence it was being performed in open grounds.
Pashto Dance After the Rise of Talibanization
Talibans when took over control of many areas in Pukhtunkhwa started to impose their own ideology on people which included ban on music and any such related event. Pashto attan which was once a prominent part of pashtun culture was no more practiced because of the threat that talibans posed to the people. Nobody could dare to do it in open ground as the chances of being hit by taliban were very high, as the areas were under control of them.
This thing raised worries in the intellectual sector and those who were binded to their culture. One thought was that it is an end and we might not be able to see it happening again but thanks to Pakistan army who diligently fought and forced taliban to retreat and emptied the areas that were once under their control. This revived the culture that was almost not being practiced for more than four or perhaps five years.

source:Talibanization and the Damage It Has Done to Pashto Attan in Pakistan (http://www.articlesbase.com/news-and-society-articles/talibanization-and-the-damage-it-has-done-to-pashto-attan-in-pakistan-2789289.html)

The author is obviously under influence of drugs.

AnGaaR
07-28-2010, 12:38 AM
sabrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr da attan nom ma akhlai chei za worta na teingaiguma:runaround::runaround::runaround:

i love love love attan and i can dance several types of attan.


btw quetta people used to do attan but peshawar or NWFP (pakhtoonkhwa) had only khattak dance which some called attan too

wazir were good in attan but it got popular after Afghans migrated to Pakistan

When i watch khyber tv and someone sings attan song, the guys come and dance peshawari and no one knows how to dance attan.. da pekhawar halakan kho tingra achawi:loveit:

شمله ور خراساني
07-28-2010, 12:51 AM
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Amir al Ghaznavi
07-29-2010, 02:02 PM
is Ghazni dari speaking?

over 50% of Ghazni province is Pakhtun. about 45% of the province is Hazara...the breakdown is roughly east Ghazni-Pashtun, west Ghazni- Hazara...

Most Pakhtuns in Ghazni are Ghilzai (Andar, Taraki, Kharotai etc) but there are sprinklings of Kakar, Wardak etc

Zarawar
07-29-2010, 03:44 PM
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Sangar wrora,
Da kho da nawee taleban dee, da nawee taleban kho pa ideology der kam taleban dee. Doi kho ya da Jahad pa meena mast dee ya no ye da Sheen stargo sara da jang da khatera de talebano pa safo ke walar dee.
Attan aw saz kho band wo, da kho sa da darwagh ya propaganda khabar nada, da emarate pa wakht ke ma bekhe zyat wakht pa afghanistan ke ter kro, Pa his zai ke ye Dhol aw Attan ta ejaza na warkawala. Pa agha bazey zayo ke ye chey Attan aw Dhol kedo agha ye pa zora kawalo khalqo, basta qawm warta dredo.
Khabara ba paka aw da haq kawo, Da wosanee taleban kho aksara da pohanton aw da showanzo zdakawonkee dee, da wos ham chey warshey teleponona ye rawakhley pa telepono ke ye da Naghmey newaley tar Nazia Iqbala da tolo badaley shta. Aw pa dase masalo laka Attan show, saz show, pa de bekhe sar na khlasaweee. Pakhwani talebano kho amr karai wo kana, aw amr ba ye chey wako, bya NAR sok na wo chey agha de mat kree, zaka da doi kho bya kar da Cablo aw da kondagho woo.

erlangner
07-29-2010, 05:48 PM
hassay na yawazay da che attanr, balkeh, mauseeqae ta ghat tawan rasedallay de. Tol fankaran, hunarmandan, sandar gharee, de pukhtano de zmakkay na takhtedallee dee. Pa khyber pakhtoonkhwa ke, lakka, Shahensha bacha, gulrez tabassum, ao dasay nor pa zor tablegh passay walegallay sho. Haroon bacha, alamzeb mujahid, ao dassay nor fankaran la mulka bahar shwal.
AO da de na elawa pa kallo ke khalq yaregee, che ka attanr ao ya de mauseeeqay mehfil jor kree, no charta pakkay chawdanna, ao ya pe taliban mullayan breed wa nakree.
No na sirf attan mauseeqae ta, balkeh, pakhtun culture tabah sho, ao la nor ham tabah kegi.
Lakka bamyan ao ya swat ke che de buddha koomay mujassemay pa baroodo wa alwazawallay shway, moong de khpal tareekh na be samara kawee.
Bas tsa ba owayou, yaregam, da kufar fatwa ba rapassay wee.