View Full Version : The word "paki" is a racial slur


Talal
03-29-2010, 04:47 PM
There was a thread here earlier on where a lot of pashtun people were getting offended about being called "pathan" or whatever the terms were. However, some people here dont mind using the word "paki", the purpose of this thread is to school them regarding a fact that "paki" is considered a racial slur and is a very offensive term. Admin i hope you take due notice of this

1.(Primarily UK and Canada, sometimes the United States, New Zealand and India) a Pakistani (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan) or South Asian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Asia) (or sometimes a Middle Eastern (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East) person). Within the UK, the term originated in Northern England (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_England), where a large number of South Asians arrived in the 1950s and 1960s. Used as a derogatory term directed towards South Asians (and sometimes Middle Eastern people), it is usually considered offensive when used by a non-Asian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Asian) in the UK

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/6740445.stm

2.In India, on the other hand, the term is used as a derogatory term directed specifically towards Pakistanis.

Dukemina
03-29-2010, 04:51 PM
There is a reason why Pathan is disliked, why is the word Paki disliked? What is derogatory about it?

Talal
03-29-2010, 04:57 PM
There is a reason why Pathan is disliked, why is the word Paki disliked? What is derogatory about it?

did you read the article ?

why is word "ne**o" a racist slur why is every slur that is considered racist, is considered so ?

what is a racial slur ? a term you use to direct your hate and discrimination towards a particular race, read the article or goto england it may help you understanding racial slurs

Dukemina
03-29-2010, 05:00 PM
I thought it would be important enough to mention it in your post, kana? :p

Talal
03-29-2010, 05:07 PM
I thought it would be important enough to mention it in your post, kana? :p

i did


1.(Primarily UK and Canada, sometimes the United States, New Zealand and India) a Pakistani (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan) or South Asian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Asia) (or sometimes a Middle Eastern (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East) person). Within the UK, the term originated in Northern England (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_England), where a large number of South Asians arrived in the 1950s and 1960s. Used as a derogatory term directed towards South Asians (and sometimes Middle Eastern people), it is usually considered offensive when used by a non-Asian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Asian) in the UK

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/6740445.stm

2.In India, on the other hand, the term is used as a derogatory term directed specifically towards Pakistanis.

Dukemina
03-29-2010, 05:10 PM
"Yet to some younger Asians, it appears to have none of the baggage their parents would associate with it."


For most Paki is just the shorter version of Pakistan. Like Afghani = Afghanistan. Saudi = Saudi Arabia. Ya know? You can't really compare it to the "N-word" cause thats not used for people from a specific place but based on color. Kinda different, no?

Talal
03-29-2010, 05:21 PM
For most Paki is just the shorter version of Pakistan. Like Afghani = Afghanistan. Saudi = Saudi Arabia. Ya know? You can't really compare it to the "N-word" cause thats not used for people from a specific place but based on color. Kinda different, no?

No that was a wrong statement by this paper, i have family in england and im not a 30 year old uncle myself..meaning i am part of the young generation and i take a lot of offence to it just like my fellow pakistanis.. It doesnt matter what abbreviations Afghans or saudis use, and im not here to debate the research behind this term, if you were pakistani you would understand where im coming from on this. Anyways this isn't my word its categorized by the appropriate authorities as a slur and yes pakistanis are offended by it.

Anyways i hope this explains as to why its a slur

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/e3b8e03359.jpg

Dinosaur Khan
03-29-2010, 05:27 PM
@dukemina
It is a world wide accepted fact that word paki is a racial slur, credere has explained it in a excelent way.

writing word "pakistani" will not tire you.

Admin Khan
03-29-2010, 06:29 PM
Since our respected Pakistani members are getting offended by being called a 'Paki' I have now added it to our censored list.

Talal
03-29-2010, 06:40 PM
Since our respected Pakistani members are getting offended by being called a '****' I have now added it to our censored list.

appreciate that bro cheers

Dinosaur Khan
03-29-2010, 07:14 PM
Since our respected Pakistani members are getting offended by being called a '****' I have now added it to our censored list.

Daira daira manana :)

Dukemina
03-29-2010, 07:15 PM
So if Zazai said "pakistani flag" then the word "Pakistani" would be a slur too? Depends, right? You can't just take a word and turn it into a slur just cause in some cases it can be used in a degrading way.

I'm from Pukhtunkhwa, btw. :Grin:

Dinosaur Khan
03-29-2010, 07:27 PM
^you are acting role like PML-N opposing renaming of NWFP

Talal
03-29-2010, 09:07 PM
So if Zazai said "pakistani flag" then the word "Pakistani" would be a slur too? Depends, right? You can't just take a word and turn it into a slur just cause in some cases it can be used in a degrading way.

I'm from Pukhtunkhwa, btw. :Grin:

either your blind to the logic/common sense here or just doing for the fun of it..i mean c'mon really ??

IamDZJ
03-30-2010, 12:05 AM
i wish i knew wat **** is. some people should understand that the usage of certain terms should be allowed if it's used for an educational purpose only. this thread serves no purpose at all.

Dukemina
03-30-2010, 12:23 AM
^Me lady, the word in question is P A K I ... (please Admina Khan, I mean no offence to anyone)

Anyway, my point was that none of us use it in a negative way.

IamDZJ
03-30-2010, 12:28 AM
truth is that it's offensive. i have used it in the past with out realizing the effect of it on my pakistani friends. thanks duk.

Talal
03-30-2010, 12:48 AM
there is no positive way of you using it ? the hell is wrong with you guys ..its not exactly rocket science we're talking about here..this is just ridiculous

whats an educational purpose of calling someone a dog ???

IamDZJ
03-30-2010, 12:58 AM
no one is calling any one a dog. just for the fear of some one doing that are you going to have the word "dog" removed from the dictionary? if i come here and all i see is a bunch of people talking about four stars what will i learn?

Talal
03-30-2010, 01:12 AM
^ are you educated about the four stars now ? or do you need some more alphabetical research ?

IamDZJ
03-30-2010, 01:20 AM
you people will never get any where because you think like a 13 year old girl who can not control her sentiments.
did you also refuse to look at the sketch of the female in the text books of your biology class because it is wrong to look at a woman's body?
try being practical for a change.

Talal
03-30-2010, 01:33 AM
hey atleast even 13 year old girls know being racist is a "bad" thing, but yeah go on write a thesis on it..pretty sure it'll be very educational for you, since after all this education your unable to comprehend a simple thing that if a word is universally acknowledged as a racial slur, then it is done so for good reasons. Being practical means having enough common sense to see that fact

tor_khan
03-30-2010, 01:59 AM
I can see why the Credere might be offended, but the plain fact of the matter is that Pakistani or its shortened loaded form is not a race.

African-orgin Sheedis and fair-skinned Pashtoons might technically be Pakistani, but the latter (the passport) doesn't describe their race.

Seems that the blurring of Pakistan into Panjabee identity is somehow the issue here.

Talal
03-30-2010, 02:10 AM
I can see why the Credere might be offended, but the plain fact of the matter is that Pakistani or its shortened loaded form is not a race.

African-orgin Sheedis and fair-skinned Pashtoons might technically be Pakistani, but the latter (the passport) doesn't describe their race.

Seems that the blurring of Pakistan into Panjabee identity is somehow the issue here.

yes i was wondering when the word "punjabee" would be dragged here, i wonder if the nazis hated jews as much as you despise "punjabeees"

Dinosaur Khan
03-30-2010, 04:20 AM
yes i was wondering when the word "punjabee" would be dragged here, i wonder if the nazis hated jews as much as you despise "punjabeees"

Yar admin has taken good decision, ignore the trolls.

tor_khan
03-30-2010, 05:03 AM
yes i was wondering when the word "punjabee" would be dragged here, i wonder if the nazis hated jews as much as you despise "punjabeees"

I don't despise Panjabees and I guess I'll have to ignore the other part of your outburst, though this gives me a little bit of insight into the level you'll drop to.

No, what I said was the blurring of term Pakistani and Panjabee into one appeared to the issue here.

tor_khan
03-30-2010, 05:04 AM
Yar admin has taken good decision, ignore the trolls.

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Master Khan
03-30-2010, 08:09 AM
Come on Credere wrora, You are not a ****, you are afghan (pashtun) brother.

IamDZJ
03-30-2010, 10:21 AM
hey atleast even 13 year old girls know being racist is a "bad" thing, but yeah go on write a thesis on it..pretty sure it'll be very educational for you, since after all this education your unable to comprehend a simple thing that if a word is universally acknowledged as a racial slur, then it is done so for good reasons. Being practical means having enough common sense to see that fact

get over your self drama queen.

Admin Khan
03-30-2010, 10:24 AM
Come on Credere wrora, You are not a ****, you are afghan (pashtun) brother.
He is actually a Non-Pashtun.

Son of Mountains
04-14-2010, 09:07 AM
Dear Admin
U have added sterics for that word but can your or anyone else make me understand the meaning of "Faki". I could not found it from dictionary. I have seen some "respected" members using this word "Faki" in some "typical" threads. I'd be thankful to u Admin jana.

Master Khan
04-15-2010, 01:43 PM
Faki?? hahahaha.

Michin Khel
11-05-2010, 07:59 PM
Racist word paki was censored but not now...why?

I request admin and moderators to answer my "why".

Prince regards

Toramana
11-05-2010, 08:22 PM
Racist word paki was censored but not now...why?

I request admin and moderators to answer my "why".

Prince regards

There is no racism about racism about Paki word. You are being over-sensitive.

Michin Khel
11-05-2010, 08:58 PM
There is nothing wrong with being called a Paki. All my Paki friends all themselves Paki. In Pakistan many have MSN IDS with Paki something.

Your friends are misguided as they live in west, they dont represent pakistanis just like you dont represent pashtuns.

Blacks call themselves nigga but it is wrong and racist word.

Sheenka
11-05-2010, 08:59 PM
my freinds call each other paki and they r pakistani and they calll me pathan , when i said paki she mind it lol

Toramana
11-05-2010, 09:08 PM
Your friends are misguided as they live in west, they dont represent pakistanis just like you dont represent pashtuns.

Blacks call themselves nigga but it is wrong and racist word.

How do you say she doesn't represent Pashtuns? Representing Pashtuns is by being attached to the concept of Pashtun-ness and putting Pashtuns above everything including some irrational Paki-ism.

Michin Khel
11-05-2010, 09:14 PM
^You also dont represent pashtuns , you live in west, follow westren culture and thinks just like your sur-koni masters.

Toramana
11-05-2010, 09:16 PM
And you think like your ... (brown masters)...haan?

Michin Khel
11-05-2010, 09:41 PM
And you think like your ... (brown masters)...haan?

Some white must have called you paki, you became depressed and you started loathing brownies.