View Full Version : Miracle in ZamZam Water and Prayer of the Muslims by German scientist


Afghanistan2010
12-05-2011, 12:30 PM
German scientist talking about the water of Zamzam - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgfYBybwvkU&feature=related)

Soldat_Amir
12-05-2011, 12:45 PM
I don't see any miricles. All he says is drinking water is good for you.

How can Zam Zam water be a miricle? isnt this shirk? innovation? Zam Zam water is no different than any other natural water source, Zam Zam water is no different than your local water the stores sell.

Secondly, the prayer, what miricle is it? Christians,Jews all say the same thing?

I dont see any miricles?

Zam Zam water is no different than the holy water of the Christians?

The people fool you by telling you its blessed, but who blesses it? a ghost or a man reading something and blowing onto it?

For those who are using Western sources to fabricate this miricle myth

Please watch the video below to refute this propaganda

Bygb30gAqOs

The Saudis and Arabs have been misleading people from the west to issue statements that Quran has miricles through science.

graveyardofempires
12-05-2011, 12:46 PM
^
i dont get the point of you posting on a religious thread.
i think you are just a nosey little kid who is messing up genuine threads

Karachi
12-05-2011, 12:47 PM
I have drank Zam Zam many times as I have live in Saudi, the taste is very very different from regular water

Manzareh
12-05-2011, 12:49 PM
from an 8minute video all soldat_amir grasped was "water is good for you".. cant imagine him exactly being an a* student at school can you.

Afghanistan2010
12-05-2011, 12:50 PM
This is the full video with showing graphics about the energetic effects...

by the way these energetic effects we are alos taught in Kung fu how to use it against opponents and enemies.


MIRACLE OF ZAMZAM WATER - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1kj4SNDi7E)

Soldat_Amir
12-05-2011, 12:50 PM
Contaminated 'Zam Zam' holy water from Mecca sold in UK

By Guy Lynn BBC News
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Holy water contaminated with arsenic is being sold to Muslims in London

Continue reading the main story (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-13267205#story_continues_1) Related Stories


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Holy drinking water contaminated with arsenic is being sold illegally to Muslims by UK shops, the BBC has found.
"Zam Zam" water is taken from a well in Mecca and is considered sacred to Muslims, but samples from the source suggested it held dangerous chemicals.
Tourists can bring back small amounts from Saudi Arabia, but it cannot be exported for commercial use.
An undercover researcher found large quantities of bottles being sold in east and south London, and in Luton.
The president of the Association of Public Analysts said he would "certainly would not recommend" drinking it.
'Poisonous' drink
A BBC investigation discovered "Zam Zam" water was being sold by Muslim bookshops in Wandsworth, south-west London, and Upton Park, east London, as well as in Luton, Bedfordshire.
"The water is poisonous, particularly because of the high levels of arsenic, which is a carcinogen," said Dr Duncan Campbell, president of the Association of Public Analysts.
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/52468000/jpg/_52468072_mecca_getty.jpg The water has a special significance for many of those who go on pilgrimages to the city of Mecca
"The limits set in drinking water are set there for very good reason.
"Once the water gets above that limit, it's not safe."
Secret recordings captured the vendors describing customers who drank it daily.
"They depend on it, they don't drink anything else," said the owner of an Islamic bookshop in Upton Park.
Last year the Food Standards Agency said people "should consider avoiding" the drink (http://www.food.gov.uk/news/newsarchive/2010/jul/zamzam) in the UK, which it said came from dubious sources.
'Sensitive matter'
The BBC asked a pilgrim to take samples from taps which were linked to the Zam Zam well and to buy bottles on sale in Mecca, to compare the water on sale illegally with the genuine source.
These showed high levels of nitrate and potentially harmful bacteria, and traces of arsenic at three times the permitted maximum level, just like the illegal water which was purchased in the UK.
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/52467000/jpg/_52467905_52467898.jpg "Zam Zam" water is gathered from a well in Mecca but there is a ban on exporting it from Saudi Arabia
Dr Yunes Ramadan Teinaz, an environmental health officer who has previously warned about "Zam Zam" water, said it was "a sensitive matter".
"People see this water as a holy water," he added.
"They find it difficult to accept that it is contaminated but the authorities in Saudi Arabia or in the UK must take action," he said.
None of the three shops involved would say why they were selling the water or how they obtained it, but further investigation suggested it had now been removed from their shelves.
The Saudi embassy in London declined to comment on the issue of contamination at the source in Mecca.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-13267205 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-13267205)

graveyardofempires
12-05-2011, 12:52 PM
^
go away you little troll.

Admin should take notice and delete any off topic comments.

Soldat_Amir
12-05-2011, 12:55 PM
Do you seriously think Zam Zam Water has healing properties sent by god, if so please provide me evidence of this claim?

I have heard all these non sense claims in the past, I have even heard Camel Urine cures diseases by a Saudi researcher.

But no evidence given.

Afghanistan2010
12-05-2011, 01:20 PM
some evidences are above that you rejected...Soldatchan.

Wahe Guru
12-05-2011, 05:05 PM
I think if anyone investigates further on the background of this German "scientists", he will probably be found to be a fraud.

graveyardofempires
12-05-2011, 05:12 PM
I think if anyone investigates further on the background of this German "scientists", he will probably be found to be a fraud.
what makes you think that?
or are just being plain anti muslim while expecting to be respected on a forum which is on the name of muslims.

Insaaf_انصاف
12-05-2011, 05:18 PM
what makes you think that?
or are just being plain anti muslim while expecting to be respected on a forum which is on the name of muslims.

He never offended islam...
He just give is impressions about these german scientists...

Har gal ko, serious kyon samaj te ho bhai saab...
Ye musalmano ko kush nahi kehta, sirf scientists ko doubt kar raha hai
Tum rooz nahraz hote, choti choti galon se...

Insaaf_انصاف
12-05-2011, 05:32 PM
Ha galya deo, muj ko kush nahi hota....

graveyardofempires
12-05-2011, 05:35 PM
Ha galya deo, muj ko kush nahi hota....
jab log hamarey deen ko galey deethy hay to tu os ko thank kartha hai aur?
kya tum musulman hay ,phir sara den en musulmano de zed logo ko thanks kes leeye bolthey hoo?>

Insaaf_انصاف
12-05-2011, 05:42 PM
jab log hamarey deen ko galey deethy hay to tu os ko thank kartha hai aur?
kya tum musulman hay ,phir sara den en musulmano de zed logo ko thanks kes leeye bolthey hoo?>

Bcoz, hum moderate muslim hon....... Hum taliban ko nahi support karta, talibano ne bohot elders mare hai Karachi me.... Mujhe saab pata hai

Yaar, tum lok taliban ko kyon support karte ho ?

( hum America ko nahi support karta.... Ye bhi kaminey hai, iske drones , waziristan me..... )
Hum tumare sab sawalon ko answer kya

Ab, tum mujhe kaho, tum taliban ko kyon support karta hai ?

graveyardofempires
12-05-2011, 05:44 PM
Bcoz, hum moderate muslim hon....... Hum taliban ko nahi support karta, talibano ne bohot elders mare hai Karachi me.... Mujhe saab pata hai

Yaar, tum lok taliban ko kyon support karte ho ?

( hum America ko nahi support karta.... Ye bhi kaminey hai, iske drones , waziristan me..... )
Hum tumare sab sawalon ko answer kya

Ab, tum mujhe kaho, tum taliban ko kyon support karta hai ?
mujhe ab patha chala ke tum kon hoo.
chal put yaha se,sharem kar.

Insaaf_انصاف
12-05-2011, 05:53 PM
mujhe ab patha chala ke tum kon hoo.
chal put yaha se,sharem kar.

Hum sirf hum ho, samajle jo samajna, meri soch tumko kahi hai........

Wahe Guru
12-06-2011, 09:17 AM
what makes you think that?
or are just being plain anti muslim while expecting to be respected on a forum which is on the name of muslims.

The reason I said that - there was a case of a German man in UK who found out that Indians and Pakistanis (Afghans too?) are easy to fool. He claimed that he could do complex surgery without any pain, blood, wounds etc. Indians and Pakistanis then started flocking to him and paying him large sums of money for these painless & invisible surgeries. I am not sure what happened to him but he carried on his racket for quite a few years.
Hence I believe this German scientist could be quite similar or maybe is the same man!?

Its not trying to be anti-muslim. I would have said the same if German man claimed water at the well of Canterbury cathedal has miracle powers or Ganges river water...

Afghanistan2010
12-06-2011, 09:54 AM
Bcoz, hum moderate muslim hon....... Hum taliban ko nahi support karta, talibano ne bohot elders mare hai Karachi me.... Mujhe saab pata hai

Yaar, tum lok taliban ko kyon support karte ho ?

( hum America ko nahi support karta.... Ye bhi kaminey hai, iske drones , waziristan me..... )
Hum tumare sab sawalon ko answer kya

Ab, tum mujhe kaho, tum taliban ko kyon support karta hai ?


ek din yeh kuffar ke ghulamo ne kaha ke , taliban do rakam hai
is bare me hamare ameer (Allah us ko sindigy deh) kaha

ke taliban kabihi bi moderat nahi ....

or me tume bi keh rahahun ke musalman kabih bi nahi moderat kyonke hamra nabi (saw) kabi moderate ni tah, moderat ka matlab hai zilat me zindigy or ham yeh nahi or kabhi bi nahi manege

ya shariah yashahadat hi hamra nahra hai...

tum puch te ho ke ham kyon taliban ke satih hain ,
kyonke wo haqq ke liyee larr rahe hain , khariboon ka haqq , muslmano ka haqq ,...or us raste ke liyeh jiss ko Allah ne kaha hai quran me (Sirat Al Mustaqeem)

ham sirf hamra haqq chate hain , ham ne kabihi bi kisi ke saat zulam nahi kiyah balke in ghadaroon or kuffaro ne hamere mulak par kabza kiya hai or dunya me har ekk ko cho haqq chata hai darate hain or dashatgard kaihte hain.....

Afghanistan2010
12-06-2011, 09:55 AM
The reason I said that - there was a case of a German man in UK who found out that Indians and Pakistanis (Afghans too?) are easy to fool. He claimed that he could do complex surgery without any pain, blood, wounds etc. Indians and Pakistanis then started flocking to him and paying him large sums of money for these painless & invisible surgeries. I am not sure what happened to him but he carried on his racket for quite a few years.
Hence I believe this German scientist could be quite similar or maybe is the same man!?

Its not trying to be anti-muslim. I would have said the same if German man claimed water at the well of Canterbury cathedal has miracle powers or Ganges river water...


I will visit him inshaAllah , he lives and works in munich in south of germany.... and i hope i can work with him as soon as i have finished my study here.