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inqilab
06-03-2010, 03:11 AM
There are 2 ways in which a jinn possesses a person.


VOLUNTARY


If harm is done to them, they seek revenge. Their nature is a vengeful one, so their revenge is to possess the person and cause him harm.
If the jinn falls in love with a human.
Urinating in their place of existence. ( Under a tree at night)


INVOLUNTARY
This is the most common type of possession. The jinn is forced to possess a person through magic.


This is done by capturing a Jinn. Capturing a Jinn is possible with the help of extremely strenuous amaliyaat (chantings and procedures) but it is a very dangerous act and most of the people trying such amaliyaat end up becoming mentally unbalanced or totally mad. Most of the time the jinn KILLS them or it KILLS their family members. No one likes to be captured by anyone and the jinn being captured resists. Apart from being extremely dangerous, capturing jinns is unlawful and haram as they are free creatures endowed with a free will.


SYMPTOMS
1) Hysteria – The Jinn’s first goal when he enters a human body is to establish himself in the brain so that he can control the neurons and nerves in the body and cause paralysis, so the limbs don’t respond. 2) Stomach aches 3) Change in voice. Becoming deeper or high pitched. 4) Waking up screaming in the morning everyday. 5) Feeling something under the skin 6) Migraines and chronic headaches 7) Rapid mood swings http://www.chowrangi.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif Difficulty focusing, absent-mindedness 9) Difficulty sleeping or fragmented sleep 10) Nightmares, especially if the person sees snakes and animals, or himself falling into a vacuum


Exorcism is done by 2 methods. It has a methodology in sharia, and there are methods not established by sharia


Christian methodology: The foundation is unislamic. The exorcist has a pact with the jinn that they leave in order for the person to remain on shirk. This is why it appears to work.


The Islamic Method:


The Raaqi [person reciting ruqya, exorcist] takes a jinn out based upon the tawheed of Allah. The recitation of the Qur’an burns them and punishes them, and they flee for their lives.
The environment of the exorcism must be clean, and not have pictures, dogs, or other forbidden things
Ruqya should be read directly. The person does not need to be touched!!! If the patient is a woman, the exorcist cannot be alone with her.

tor_khan
06-03-2010, 05:20 AM
Last year when we had a huge family get together, some of the youngsters (the teens etc.) played Ouija board - I was on roof of the house and when I heard the yelling and screaming, I came down to investigate - the kids had an upturned tumbler, letters and symbols in the centre of a table and were sitting around it with everyone resting a finger on the glass.

They had already asked questions such as the name of the spirit they were contacting and had managed to spell out some female name.

I must admit, I was worried about a sudden possession if things got out of control and was the miserable uncle who broke up the seance. Talking to djinn and messing with forces that are supernatural is not the stuff of child's play.

MazloomyarMaseed
06-03-2010, 06:39 AM
Last year when we had a huge family get together, some of the youngsters (the teens etc.) played Ouija board - I was on roof of the house and when I heard the yelling and screaming, I came down to investigate - the kids had an upturned tumbler, letters and symbols in the centre of a table and were sitting around it with everyone resting a finger on the glass.

They had already asked questions such as the name of the spirit they were contacting and had managed to spell out some female name.

I must admit, I was worried about a sudden possession if things got out of control and was the miserable uncle who broke up the seance. Talking to djinn and messing with forces that are supernatural is not the stuff of child's play.

Its called a weeejee board and you can buy it from nearly every super market.

Khushal Khan Khattak
06-03-2010, 07:57 AM
Talking to djinn and messing with forces that are supernatural is not the stuff of child's play.

All such things from an Islamic point of view are un Islamic. There is a reason why we shouldnt do such things. Evil is evil. It shouldnt be takes as child's play. You were right to put some sense into them.

tor_khan
06-03-2010, 08:13 AM
Its called a weeejee board and you can buy it from nearly every super market.

The traditional spelling is ouija (literally "yes, yes" oui - yes and ja - yes in French and German), though in English pronounced /weeja/.

Maybe a Weejee Board is a brand of a board version that is a supermarket favourite. I don't really care for these things and I agree with Khushal and co. This is occult and we should stay away.

MazloomyarMaseed
06-03-2010, 08:51 AM
The traditional spelling is ouija (literally "yes, yes" oui - yes and ja - yes in French and German), though in English pronounced /weeja/.

Maybe a Weejee Board is a brand of a board version that is a supermarket favourite. I don't really care for these things and I agree with Khushal and co. This is occult and we should stay away.


Maybe we can do it together, and maybe the spirit of Ahmad Shah Durrani will appear lol hahaha

Pakhtunzai
06-03-2010, 09:19 AM
^This isn't a laughing or a joking matter.

So long as ones imaan is strong no jinn can do anything.

MazloomyarMaseed
06-03-2010, 09:29 AM
^This isn't a laughing or a joking matter.

So long as ones imaan is strong no jinn can do anything.

oh shut the **** up man! dont speak to me as some kind of minor, we are not in a mosque for you to silence me.

Learn Pushto, be a Pashtun then u wont be afraid of jins

Pakhtunzai
06-03-2010, 10:30 AM
oh shut the **** up man! dont speak to me as some kind of minor, we are not in a mosque for you to silence me.

Learn Pushto, be a Pashtun then u wont be afraid of jins

I wasn't talking to you like a minor...there is such a thing called respect, you respect others and you will get the same..I warn you do not treat me and others with disrespect or you will get whats coming to you!

*Mahzala*
06-03-2010, 10:37 AM
What's with the asterisks Makeen? You made a few apologies a week ago, you taking them back? I have no intentions of derailing this thread. Consider this for your own good.

Master Khan
06-03-2010, 11:56 AM
StrategistMaseed why are you acting like this?

MazloomyarMaseed
06-03-2010, 12:17 PM
I wasn't talking to you like a minor...there is such a thing called respect, you respect others and you will get the same..I warn you do not treat me and others with disrespect or you will get whats coming to you!

What will happen to me? Whats coming to me? What will you do? Always remmeber, the difference between me and you is that, I know who I am, and you claim to be who you are.

MazloomyarMaseed
06-03-2010, 12:18 PM
StrategistMaseed why are you acting like this?

I was abit insulted when he wrote that crap to me as If iam some kind of Minor.

afghan
06-03-2010, 12:23 PM
There are 2 ways in which a jinn possesses a person.


VOLUNTARY


If harm is done to them, they seek revenge. Their nature is a vengeful one, so their revenge is to possess the person and cause him harm.
If the jinn falls in love with a human.
Urinating in their place of existence. ( Under a tree at night)
INVOLUNTARY
This is the most common type of possession. The jinn is forced to possess a person through magic.


This is done by capturing a Jinn. Capturing a Jinn is possible with the help of extremely strenuous amaliyaat (chantings and procedures) but it is a very dangerous act and most of the people trying such amaliyaat end up becoming mentally unbalanced or totally mad. Most of the time the jinn KILLS them or it KILLS their family members. No one likes to be captured by anyone and the jinn being captured resists. Apart from being extremely dangerous, capturing jinns is unlawful and haram as they are free creatures endowed with a free will.


SYMPTOMS
1) Hysteria – The Jinn’s first goal when he enters a human body is to establish himself in the brain so that he can control the neurons and nerves in the body and cause paralysis, so the limbs don’t respond. 2) Stomach aches 3) Change in voice. Becoming deeper or high pitched. 4) Waking up screaming in the morning everyday. 5) Feeling something under the skin 6) Migraines and chronic headaches 7) Rapid mood swings http://www.chowrangi.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif Difficulty focusing, absent-mindedness 9) Difficulty sleeping or fragmented sleep 10) Nightmares, especially if the person sees snakes and animals, or himself falling into a vacuum


Exorcism is done by 2 methods. It has a methodology in sharia, and there are methods not established by sharia


Christian methodology: The foundation is unislamic. The exorcist has a pact with the jinn that they leave in order for the person to remain on shirk. This is why it appears to work.


The Islamic Method:


The Raaqi [person reciting ruqya, exorcist] takes a jinn out based upon the tawheed of Allah. The recitation of the Qur’an burns them and punishes them, and they flee for their lives.
The environment of the exorcism must be clean, and not have pictures, dogs, or other forbidden things
Ruqya should be read directly. The person does not need to be touched!!! If the patient is a woman, the exorcist cannot be alone with her.

they must be pashtun jinn.
may be person is suffering from brain tumer.
my 4 years old sons favorite place to urinate on the tree and cars wheels.
The Islamic Method: another method our mullah do most of the times
beat the hell outa them.

Pakhtunzai
06-03-2010, 12:36 PM
What will happen to me? Whats coming to me? What will you do? Always remmeber, the difference between me and you is that, I know who I am, and you claim to be who you are.

Actually you know what I am not going to bother arguing with a little boy such as yourself. I know who I am and I know who you are. 1 MAJOR thing i've realised in life..a leopard never changes its spots..thanks for clarifying that for me.

I was willing to forgive you but....

Don't worry mods I won't derail this thread any longer.

Feroza_Banu
06-03-2010, 01:30 PM
i attended a wedding back in quetta and a lady got attacked by jinns in the middle of the wedding... what happened was we were all doing attan while we noticed that she was going faster and faster and doing attan more crazily as time passed... suddenly she lost control and fell on the groun and started crying and making weirdddd noises... i ran in opposite direction till someone yelled that she gets attacked by jin sometimes... i thought she was having a heart attack or something... when i heard jin i started running away faster lolll... but anyways after a few seconds of sinking it in that it is ok to go near her, i went near and i saw all the ladies had gathered up and started asking questions from her about their future...

questions like :will i have kids? will my husband's business expand ... and blah blah... she had alot of stregnth, at least 4 people were holding her down and they still weren't able to hold her still... she kept talking in this biggg voice as if she had turned into a man... her eyes were half closed and half open. it lasted about 10 minutes... then she was back to normal... weird!

Mutakhasis
06-03-2010, 02:19 PM
Any reason why many cases of possessions are women?

Master Khan
06-03-2010, 02:24 PM
i attended a wedding back in quetta and a lady got attacked by jinns in the middle of the wedding... what happened was we were all doing attan while we noticed that she was going faster and faster and doing attan more crazily as time passed... suddenly she lost control and fell on the groun and started crying and making weirdddd noises... i ran in opposite direction till someone yelled that she gets attacked by jin sometimes... i thought she was having a heart attack or something... when i heard jin i started running away faster lolll... but anyways after a few seconds of sinking it in that it is ok to go near her, i went near and i saw all the ladies had gathered up and started asking questions from her about their future...

questions like :will i have kids? will my husband's business expand ... and blah blah... she had alot of stregnth, at least 4 people were holding her down and they still weren't able to hold her still... she kept talking in this biggg voice as if she had turned into a man... her eyes were half closed and half open. it lasted about 10 minutes... then she was back to normal... weird!
Yeah I had story like this aswell in my Village.
It once happen to my 80 year old cousin...dame it was hard to open her hand.

Muslimah
06-03-2010, 02:57 PM
What is the story about ghosts then? Jinn - those are evil spirits. What about just...ghosts in general. I have seen a few odd things in my time - Id like to learn more to know I am not crazy. :)

MazloomyarMaseed
06-03-2010, 03:22 PM
Any reason why many cases of possessions are women?


Because most of them are depressed, they take large amounts of mind altering drugs especially in Pakhtunkhwa, the drugs mess with their minds, they also are extremely depressed and become dramatic.

Why do i only see case of possessions in poor muslim countries? while in the west they are treated by a few visits to a psychologist.

Regards

tor_khan
06-03-2010, 04:52 PM
What is the story about ghosts then? Jinn - those are evil spirits. What about just...ghosts in general. I have seen a few odd things in my time - Id like to learn more to know I am not crazy. :)

Djinn are sentient - alongside - angels and humans - and like humans possess will.

They are not necessarily evil, but there are many tricksters amongst them. Perhaps that explains ghosts. Some djinn are obedient Muslims and are, thus, harmless to people.

inqilab
06-03-2010, 04:57 PM
questions like :will i have kids? will my husband's business expand ... and blah blah...

lol talka bout self fish and haram.

she had alot of stregnth, at least 4 people were holding her down and they still weren't able to hold her still... she kept talking in this biggg voice as if she had turned into a man... her eyes were half closed and half open. it lasted about 10 minutes... then she was back to normal... weird!

Yeh, jinns usually are much stronger

inqilab
06-03-2010, 05:00 PM
Because most of them are depressed, they take large amounts of mind altering drugs especially in Pakhtunkhwa, the drugs mess with their minds, they also are extremely depressed and become dramatic.

Why do i only see case of possessions in poor muslim countries? while in the west they are treated by a few visits to a psychologist.

Regards

They are not treated with drugs. They are subdued and dumb down and knocked out. The problem still exists in them.

The west probably has more cases. Most people in asylums are possessed and can be cured through ruqya. But since they do not believe in that stuff. The patients are never cured. And they keep using the people as guinea pigs to see which drug works the best.

inqilab
06-03-2010, 05:01 PM
Bride Exorcism in Malaysia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsiVN8y85DY

^Bride has been possessed. The ginie has enter her body. The spirit talk & at last converted to Muslim. It was realy scary. This is real story not as like others around.
Islamic Exorcism In Malaysia

Exorcisms are not to be taken lightly. Besides the tools of the exorcist one must consider the spiritual readiness of the exorciser and his team. Exorcism is not a parlor game. It is tough spiritual warfare with the powers of evil. It is a battle that one can not afford to loose. Do not try this at home. Get a genuine servant of Allah.

"Exorcism" in Islam signifies ridding the human body of jinn possession by means of using halal (permissible) means. The halal means centre around ruqya and it essentially involves reciting the Quran in the presence of the possessed person. There are ahadith (pluaral of hadith) which prove that Muhammad did perform "exorcisms" - i.e. rid human beings suffering from jinn possession and the use of ruqya (Quranic recitations) is not confined to getting rid of jinn but also to heal other ailments.

It may be noted that the exorcism experiences reported after some moments of recitation of the Quran, the possessed human begins to talk in a very different voice and often scary voice (e.g. possessed girl starting to speak in a different language or a very hoarse female voice when the female jinn starts speaking). The recitation of the Quran troubles and burns the jinn possessing the body and so they start "coming clean" so to speak in an attempt to stop the pain they are feeling. When they would recover, they would have no signs of pain or injuries and they would not remember anything from the exorcisms (the screaming, shouting they did, the evil voice they spoke in, etc.), once the jinn leaves the person comes around and does not recollect what went on during the exorcisms.

TRANSLATION

M-dO you really want to convert into muslim@ISLAM (therefore means submission to and acceptance of God, and believers are expected to demonstrate this by worshiping Him, following His commands, and avoiding polytheism)
G-yes i really want
M-Now u must follow this testification.
M-ASYHADU.....so on & so on.(The shahādatān, which is the basic creed or tenet of Islam: "'ašhadu 'al-lā ilāha illā-llāhu wa 'ašhadu 'anna muħammadan rasūlu-llāh", or "I testify that there is none worthy of worship except God and I testify that Muhammad is the Messenger of God." As the most important pillar, this testament is a foundation for all other beliefs and practices. Muslims must repeat the shahadah in prayer, and non-Muslims wishing to convert to Islam are required to recite the creed. link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam
G-ASYHADU.....so on till end.
M-Dear Idrus( it name is Idrus) now u just converted to ISLAM so do u still want to used Idrus as your name @ else.
G-Idrus ( it used to it name )
M-Okey Idrus, now you are ISLAM, U're now same religion as me. Then u will not ever & never disturbing human again. You must promise...you will not enter to human body.Now i let u go back to your world.
G-Ya
M-You must go back to your world and do not engaged with human again.Promise.
G- Ya

inqilab
06-03-2010, 05:03 PM
Jinn Exorcisms in UK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jr_ZvFq1DI

inqilab
06-03-2010, 05:08 PM
i will start a thread on how to curse possessions and magic.

afghan
06-03-2010, 07:49 PM
Jinn Exorcisms in UK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jr_ZvFq1DI
the young lady answers to the questions blinks her eyes. if ghosts or jinns are evil then why they let her convert to islam. may be the young lady was not happy with her marriage, and found the way outa it.

inqilab
06-03-2010, 08:18 PM
i will start a thread on how to curse possessions and magic.

I meant cure and not curse

inqilab
06-03-2010, 08:20 PM
the young lady answers to the questions blinks her eyes. if ghosts or jinns are evil then why they let her convert to islam. may be the young lady was not happy with her marriage, and found the way outa it.

Not all jinns are evil. There are good jinns also.

Jinns are muslims, hindus, jews, christians, shias etc. They come in all different types and forms.

You can tell at times who is possessed and who is faking it.

inqilab
06-03-2010, 08:22 PM
This thread will be for helping to cure magic and possessions.

inqilab
06-03-2010, 08:32 PM
Magic (sihr) and its types



Sihr is a serious crime and is one of the kinds of kufr. It is one of things with which people have been tested, in the past and currently, among the nations of the past, during the Jahiliyyah and in this ummah. The more ignorance increases, the less there is knowledge and awareness of faith, the less attention the authorities pay to this matter – the more the practitioners of sihr and trickery increase and spread in the land, to take the people’s wealth and confuse them and do other things. When knowledge prevails and faith increases, and the Islamic authorities are powerful, the number of these evil people shrinks and they move from one land to another, seeking a place where their falsehood will be accepted and they will be able to engage in their trickery and corruption.



The Qur’an and Sunnah have described the kinds of sihr and the rulings on these matters.



Sihr is so called because its means are hidden or secret, and because the practitioners of sihr deal with things in secret which enable them to perform illusions to confuse the people and deceive their eyes, and to cause them harm or steal their money, etc., in a secretive manner so that in most cases nobody realizes what is happening. Hence the last part of the night is called sahar, because at the end of the night people are unaware and they do not move about much. And the lungs are also called sahr, because they are hidden inside the body.

According to shari’ah, the meaning of sihr is what the magicians do to delude and confuse people, so that the one who is watching thinks that it is real when in fact it is not. As Allah said concerning the magicians of Pharaoh:


“They said: ‘O Musa! Either you throw first or we be the first to throw?’
Musa said: ‘Nay, throw you (first)!’ Then behold! their ropes and their sticks, by their magic, appeared to him as though they moved fast.


So Moosa conceived fear in himself.


We (Allah) said: ‘Fear not! Surely, you will have the upper hand.

And throw that which is in your right hand! It will swallow up that which they have made. That which they have made is only a magician’s trick, and the magician will never be successful, to whatever amount (of skill) he may attain.’” [Ta-Ha 20:65-69]


Sihr may involve things that the magician does when tying knots on which he blows, as is referred to in the Qur’an:


“And from the evil of those who practice witchcraft when they blow in the knots." [al-Falaq 113:4]


And it may involve other things which they manage to do through the shayateen (devils), so they do things that may affect a man's reason or make him sick; they may cause division between a man and his wife, resulting in her looking ugly to him, or by making her hate her husband or be put off by him. This is blatant kufr as the Qur’an states. Allah says:


“They followed what the Shayateen (devils) gave out (falsely of the magic) in the lifetime of Sulayman (Solomon). Sulayman did not disbelieve, but the Shayateen (devils) disbelieved, teaching men magic” [al-Baqarah 2:102]

Allah informs us that they (the shayateen) committed kufr by teaching men magic. Then He says:


“and such things that came down at Babylon to the two angels, Haroot and Maroot, but neither of these two (angels) taught anyone (such things) till they had said, ‘We are for trial, so disbelieve not (by learning this magic from us).’” [al-Baqarah 2:102]


Then Allah says:


“And from these (angels) people learn that by which they cause separation between man and his wife, but they could not thus harm anyone except by Allah’s Leave”[al-Baqarah 2:102]


i.e., this magic and any harm that results from it is subject to the prior decree and will of Allah, for our Lord cannot be overwhelmed and nothing can happen in His Dominion against His Will. Nothing happens in this world or in the hereafter except by His prior decree and His great wisdom, as He wills. So some people may be tested by sihr, and others may be tested by sickness, or by being killed…etc. Allah is All-Wise in all that He wills and decrees, and in all that He prescribes for His slaves. Hence Allah says:


“but they could not thus harm anyone except by Allah’s leave” [al-Baqarah 2:102]


i.e., by His universal (kawni) will and decree, not by His legislative (shar’i) will [i.e., He wills that it should happen but He does not enjoin it and He is not pleased by such actions]. For shari’ah does not allow such things, indeed it forbids them, but by His universal leave He already knows and has already decreed that So and so will do sihr, and that So and so will be affected by sihr, just as He already knows and has already decreed that So and so will be killed, or afflicted with a certain sickness, or will die in a certain land, and will receive such and such provision, or will be rich or poor. All of that happens by the will and decree of Allah, as He says:


“Verily, We have created all things with Qadar (Divine Preordains of all things before their creation as written in the Book of Decrees Al‑Lawh Al‑Mahfooz)[al-Qamar 54:49]



“No calamity befalls on the earth or in yourselves but it is inscribed in the Book of Decrees (Al‑Lawh Al‑Mahfooz) before We bring it into existence. Verily, that is easy for Allah” [al-Hadeed 57:22]



The evils that come at the hands of the magicians or others do not happen because our Lord is ignorant, for He knows all things and nothing at all is hidden from Him, as He says:


“Verily, Allah is the All-Knower of everything” [al-Anfaal 8:75]


“that you may know that Allah has power over all things, and that Allah surrounds all things in (His) Knowledge” [al-Talaaq 65:12]



So Allah knows all things, and nothing happens in His Dominion that He does not will, but He has perfect wisdom and good aims in whatever He decrees should happen to people of honor or humiliation, losing or gaining power, sickness or health, magic and other things.


Everything that happens to people happens by the will of Allah and in accordance with His prior decree. These magicians may perform their illusions, as stated in the ayah quoted above:



“They said: ‘O Musa! Either you throw first or we be the first to throw?’
Musa said: ‘Nay, throw you (first)!’ Then behold! their ropes and their sticks, by their magic, appeared to him as though they moved fast. [Ta-Ha 20:65-66]


It appeared to the onlooker as if these sticks and ropes were snakes, moving fast in the valley. They were only sticks and ropes, but the magicians, through what they had learned, made what they demonstrated before the people look different in their eyes to what it really was.


Allaah says:


“by their magic, appeared to him as though they moved fast” [Ta-Ha 20:66]


And in Surat al-A’raf Allaah says:

“He [Musa] said: ‘Throw you (first).’ So when they threw, they bewitched the eyes of the people, and struck terror into them, and they displayed a great magic” [al-A’raf 7:116]


But in fact their sticks and ropes did not change; it was the people’s sight which changed because of the sihr, so they thought they were snakes, because of the illusion brought about by the magicians. Some people call this taqmeer, which is when the magician does things to make a person not sense reality as it really is, so his eyes do not see what is really there and things may be taken from his shop or his home without him realizing it, i.e., he does not know what is really happening. So he may see a rock as a chicken or as an egg, and so on, because reality has been changed in his eyes because of the confusion wrought by the magician, and because his eyes have been bewitched. There are things that the magicians do with certain substances to make people’s eyes not see what is really happening. This is the kind of magic which Allah describes as “great” [i.e. serious, powerful] in Surat al-A’raf:

“… So when they threw, they bewitched the eyes of the people, and struck terror into them, and they displayed a great magic” [al-A’raf 7:116]

king-zazai
06-04-2010, 02:17 AM
i attended a wedding back in quetta and a lady got attacked by jinns in the middle of the wedding... what happened was we were all doing attan while we noticed that she was going faster and faster and doing attan more crazily as time passed... suddenly she lost control and fell on the groun and started crying and making weirdddd noises... i ran in opposite direction till someone yelled that she gets attacked by jin sometimes... i thought she was having a heart attack or something... when i heard jin i started running away faster lolll... but anyways after a few seconds of sinking it in that it is ok to go near her, i went near and i saw all the ladies had gathered up and started asking questions from her about their future...

questions like :will i have kids? will my husband's business expand ... and blah blah... she had alot of stregnth, at least 4 people were holding her down and they still weren't able to hold her still... she kept talking in this biggg voice as if she had turned into a man... her eyes were half closed and half open. it lasted about 10 minutes... then she was back to normal... weird!

yoo now thats sum scary stuff right there....