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MazloomyarMaseed
05-21-2010, 09:53 AM
Dear Members

What are your views on the ANP(Awami National Party)

MazloomyarMaseed
05-21-2010, 10:03 AM
Here are my views of the ANP

1) Useless Party, Not truely Nationalistic
2)Defends the Rights of Smaller Nations of PAKISTAN
3)Members with a long History of UnPashtun Activities such as broadcasting Porn in Peshawer etc
4) a inner hatred towards Tribals
5) Supports Pakistans Army
6)Fully supported the Swat operation to secure votes
7)Leader of the Party runs to Punjab to save himself
8)I dont see them complaining about ISI anymore as they did in the past
9)Making music videos with dancing women
10)All of a sudden, they blaime India for all the Militant Activities, but they use to accuse ISI of it( why the sudden change) I smell rupees!
11)No longer a Nationalist Party, more of a Typical Pakistan Political Party
12)On youtube, there is a video of all these ANP drunks listening to some Mojjahir girl sing in Urdu(Very Pashtun Nationalistic)
13)They speak of Pashtunwali/Pukhtunwali but promote laws that contradict it
14)Betrayed Faqir of IPI and refused to do a Armed struggle against Pakistan
15)Follow an Ideology that is inspired by a Hindu Gujarati called Ghandi
16)They are extremely biased people, they speak of oppression of swatis etc under miltiant rule but avoid speaking about the massacres that the Pakistan army have committed in the tribal areas
17)They make woman dance on their videos, very unpashtun
18)They are too weak to stand up to MQM
19)Recent Karachi Killings(May 2010) no strong condemation against MQM
20)Pashtuns were beaten in Hazara, and ANP proposed to follow usual ghandi Policy of not fighting back nor being strong and firm on Pashtun rights.
21)A party who is suppose to be NON violent Supporting Pakistan Army bombs to be dropped on Pashtuns, while strongly opposing Mirza Ali Khans fight for independance
22) Hipocrites

Thanks

Afghan_Soldier
05-21-2010, 10:15 AM
Not in its original form and what is stood for - corrupted.

Nokia_Apridy
05-21-2010, 11:01 AM
Zma da Sray Janday ta Dumra Spak ma gora
Da Zma da Wenay Rang da Iniqlab pa Rawalam..
......

Chay Azmat ta da Agyaro stargay Brakhey
Har sray da BACHA KHAN ghunday badnam shi..

Khushal Khan Khattak
05-21-2010, 11:05 AM
I second the following:



1) Useless Party, Not truly Nationalistic
3)Members with a long History of UnPashtun Activities such as broadcasting Porn in Peshawar etc
8)I dont see them complaining about ISI anymore as they did in the past
9)Making music videos with dancing women
10)All of a sudden, they blame India for all the Militant Activities, but they use to accuse ISI of it( why the sudden change)
13)They speak of Pashtunwali/Pukhtunwali but promote laws that contradict it
15)Follow an Ideology that is inspired by a Hindu Gujarati called Ghandi
17)They make woman dance on their videos, very unpashtun
18)They are too weak to stand up to MQM
19)Recent Karachi Killings(May 2010) no condemation against MQM
20)Pashtuns were beaten in Hazara, and ANP proposed to follow usual ghandi Policy of not fighting back nor being strong and firm on Pashtun rights.
22) Hipocrites



:eviltongue: to ANP

afghan
05-21-2010, 11:17 AM
its not diffirent than other pakki political party. The mullas robed the pakis now its the time to be robed under nationalism. when they on the stage to speak to common afghan(pashtun), or when they are in afghanistan, they say what we want to hear, but do what ever pandjabi tells them.

Yousafzai Pakhtun
05-21-2010, 01:00 PM
well friends.. i accept that ANP has lost its prestige....bcoz selfish people are entering and the devoted workers are departing....but still i will support ANP they give us identity by renaming the province....and is the only political party struggling for pakhtun rights (at least by name) Moreover ANP has given many sacrifices in the recent decades......they openly condemn the terrorist activities and the so called barbarism by Taliban....it is to be noted that no other party in Pakistan has opposed Taliban...it is wrong that they follow Gandhi ideology...they follow the doctrine of Great Pakhtun leader Bacha khan ...and bacha khan was a unique pakhtun leader...
ANP is gaining their rights step by step....now they are going to change the Text of Textbooks...that is along with Mr. Jinnah Ghani Khan, Bacha Khan, Hamza Baba etc will be taught in schools......
Dear Khushal khan Khattak for your kind info ANP has strongly condemned MQP for Karachi riots...and has warned to leave the govt in Sindh...so please stop watching PTV Khabarnam....
Who say they have been beaten in Hazara...infact Hazara waal are being beaten there morally and politically...they ignored their demand of Hazara pakhtunkhwa...and now they are making Abaseen district there...
On the whole there are always good and bad people in each organisation and every party......and in politics there comes many ups and downs in political parties......ANP is doing well as compared to any other poltical party in Pakistan......they have least corrupt leaders as compared to other parties....
just compare and contrast....

Master Khan
05-21-2010, 01:09 PM
They are the only party we must relay on in Pakistan.
I hope they came into power.

MazloomyarMaseed
05-21-2010, 01:26 PM
well friends.. i accept that ANP has lost its prestige....bcoz selfish people are entering and the devoted workers are departing....but still i will support ANP they give us identity by renaming the province....and is the only political party struggling for pakhtun rights (at least by name) Moreover ANP has given many sacrifices in the recent decades......they openly condemn the terrorist activities and the so called barbarism by Taliban....it is to be noted that no other party in Pakistan has opposed Taliban...it is wrong that they follow Gandhi ideology...they follow the doctrine of Great Pakhtun leader Bacha khan ...and bacha khan was a unique pakhtun leader...
ANP is gaining their rights step by step....now they are going to change the Text of Textbooks...that is along with Mr. Jinnah Ghani Khan, Bacha Khan, Hamza Baba etc will be taught in schools......
Dear Khushal khan Khattak for your kind info ANP has strongly condemned MQP for Karachi riots...and has warned to leave the govt in Sindh...so please stop watching PTV Khabarnam....
Who say they have been beaten in Hazara...infact Hazara waal are being beaten there morally and politically...they ignored their demand of Hazara pakhtunkhwa...and now they are making Abaseen district there...
On the whole there are always good and bad people in each organisation and every party......and in politics there comes many ups and downs in political parties......ANP is doing well as compared to any other poltical party in Pakistan......they have least corrupt leaders as compared to other parties....
just compare and contrast....


Bacha Khans approach to winning Pashtuns freedom was wrong and has not benefitted pashtuns at all. He opposed those who truely wanted freedom and adopted Ghandi Style politics which suited more to Hindus who had billion of people to waste and sit down.

If he adapted a more Pashtun oritinated struggle, whereby we fight till last drop of blood and be firm, then we wont be begging Nawaz sharif and Punjab to atleast Accept calling us Khyber Pakhtunkhwa citizens.

SWATIAN
05-21-2010, 01:44 PM
awal me dair khwakh woo.kho was naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

AfghanSoulja
05-21-2010, 03:06 PM
politics is always dirty, everyone is a stooge and those aren't become stooges when they get power.

People over there keep on getting played because they have no choice but to put their fates in the hands of crooks

Badlun
05-21-2010, 05:42 PM
ANP is still a political and Pashtun nationalist party and is in power. They are ruling Khyber Pashtunkhwah. They have to adopt some time real politik and where masny of us criticize ANP. Still its predominantly a Pashtun nationalist Party althu ideologically not better than PMAP but in terms of realism is a successful party and has achieved lot of things for Pashtuns.

I wish the ideology of PMAP and the politics of ANP may merge and then Pashtuns in Pakistan will be represented in a superb way.

I wonder do we have any Pashtun nationalist political parties in Afghanistan? I being away from home for many years can any one update me is there any Pashtun nationaliust party in Afghanistan? And why ANP and PMAP of Pakistan dont open their branches in Afghanistan?

To counter terrorism and extremism Pashtuns must have nationalist political parties and I prefer a moribund ANP to any extremist group of bandits like Taliban.

Badlun
05-21-2010, 06:07 PM
Yes Jasmine

I have opened a separate thread on Afghan Mellat Party
http://www.pashtunforums.com/showthread.php?p=33834#post33834

erlangner
06-22-2010, 06:55 AM
ANP is not as bad as reflected. It is the only voice against any anti-pashtun force. ANP is no way an armed force to fight agiuanst USSR or against Pakistani army to win independence. It is a politicla organization and it is the party warned Pashtoon well in time not to be involved in the Fassad-e-Afghanistan. It is the only party awakened Pashtoons well in time agianst any activity. But the problems can be that they did not conveyed the message well, or their message was not allowed to be conveyed, or their message was sabotaged by religious voices. However, this credit goes to ANP that they warned pashtoons well in time always. This is the life of ANP, and this is the job of politicla party to bring awareness. Not to fight with weapons. If any time ANP claims to be an armed force and fighting on a front helping non-pashtuns, then it can be blamed.

MazloomyarMaseed
06-22-2010, 07:03 AM
ANP in four words: Typical Pakistani Political Party.

Nationalism is no where to be seen in their policies.

Kind Regards

iukmi
06-22-2010, 07:24 AM
Anp bull**** they r not doing any thing for pashtuns...............

erlangner
06-22-2010, 07:55 AM
Anp bull**** they r not doing any thing for pashtuns...............

what you are doing for Pashtuns? if not then what you are?

MazloomyarMaseed
06-22-2010, 09:10 AM
what you are doing for Pashtuns? if not then what you are?

ANP promote Non Violence

But support Punjab Fauge to bombard Pashtun Areas

If ANP are so concerned and Anti Taliban, then why beg a Punjabi Army officer to harass and kill Swatis and Pashtuns of Waziristan.

Its clear Hipocrasy. If ANP are so brave and real Pashtuns, then they should build a Red cap Lashkar and drive out the Taliban and establish a pure Nationalistic movement for the betterment for all Pashtuns.

Kind Regards

Jana
06-22-2010, 09:26 AM
ANP did many mistakes and kept clinging to some flawed ideas for too long.

In my personal opinion its time ANP should come in mainstream politics and should strive for strong vote bank in all parts of Pakistan.


Time to restructure the party and be active

erlangner
06-22-2010, 10:09 AM
ANP did many mistakes and kept clinging to some flawed ideas for too long.

In my personal opinion its time ANP should come in mainstream politics and should strive for strong vote bank in all parts of Pakistan.


Time to restructure the party and be active

ANP can never in the main stream. It is very easy to be claled traitor by Pkaistani media and Punjab absed politicians and pakistani army. Pakistani army and ANP can never accept each other.
ANP is a nationalist party and it can be an alloy with other nationalist forces.

Levanaye Zalmaye
06-22-2010, 11:00 AM
ANP can never in the main stream. It is very easy to be claled traitor by Pkaistani media and Punjab absed politicians and pakistani army. Pakistani army and ANP can never accept each other.
ANP is a nationalist party and it can be an alloy with other nationalist forces.

And that's where the problem lies. The ANP, by its very existence, alienates non-Pashtuns (even those with proxy claims to Pashtun ancestries). On the other hand, with its rampant corruption, indifference to the suffering of Pashtuns, lack of interest on Pashtun reunification, inability to defend Pashtuns anywhere in Pakistan and due to many more reasons, the ANP has also alienated a substantial number of real Pashtun nationalists.

Make no mistake though, there are still some good people in ANP but the top leadership is not only utterly corrupt but also as selfish as it is inept. I would be surprised if the ANP wins even half the seats it has today in the next elections.

Nadir Shah
06-22-2010, 11:05 AM
Make no mistake though, there are still some good people in ANP but the top leadership is not only utterly corrupt but also as selfish as it is inept. I would be surprised if the ANP wins even half the seats it has today in the next elections.

Malgariya, I am no fan of ANP either, but we need to be reasonable here. We should oppose ANP and it's policies for the right reasons and provide an alternative course of action rather than going for the usual 'Hindu agent' or 'Racist' propaganda.

Levanaye Zalmaye
06-22-2010, 11:19 AM
Malgariya, I am no fan of ANP either, but we need to be reasonable here. We should oppose ANP and it's policies for the right reasons and provide an alternative course of action rather than going for the usual 'Hindu agent' or 'Racist' propaganda.

I agree. lol I didn't realize I was criticizing without providing solutions.

I suppose to call for an overhaul of the ANP's top brass would be too naive. I honestly wish I knew what should be done. Perhaps someone like Pir_Rokhan can shed some more light on the matter.

It's interesting that you mention the 'Indian' connection, by the way. You know, in order to dispel that, the ANP has watered down a lot of its older rhetoric. Even then, the Punjabis are not pleased. The ANP are considered traitors - and the worst sort, mind you - the sort that help Indians.

Nokia_Apridy
06-22-2010, 11:32 AM
ANP promote Non Violence

But support Punjab Fauge to bombard Pashtun Areas

If ANP are so concerned and Anti Taliban, then why beg a Punjabi Army officer to harass and kill Swatis and Pashtuns of Waziristan.

Its clear Hipocrasy. If ANP are so brave and real Pashtuns, then they should build a Red cap Lashkar and drive out the Taliban and establish a pure Nationalistic movement for the betterment for all Pashtuns.

Kind Regards

Zma Post ta stargay pa lar sha da PF tolo malgaro ta wayam chay

ka bya Masedu da Pukhtanu Sema kharsa krey wi bya ?

proof darta rawram..........lag pa tama sha rata

شمله ور خراساني
06-22-2010, 11:40 AM
ANP are useless cowards and servants of the kuffaar who help them to kill and oppress our people.

And their non-violent policy is a big lie. They conducted terrorist attacks against Afghan refugees and mujahedeen in the 80's. They use to get money and weapons from Russians and their communist counterparts in Afghanistan to blow things up and cause chaos and dispair in refugee camps in Peshawar.

Nadir Shah
06-22-2010, 11:57 AM
I agree. lol I didn't realize I was criticizing without providing solutions.

I suppose to call for an overhaul of the ANP's top brass would be too naive. I honestly wish I knew what should be done. Perhaps someone like Pir_Rokhan can shed some more light on the matter.

It's interesting that you mention the 'Indian' connection, by the way. You know, in order to dispel that, the ANP has watered down a lot of its older rhetoric. Even then, the Punjabis are not pleased. The ANP are considered traitors - and the worst sort, mind you - the sort that help Indians.

Really? You of all people? I (We) know exactly 'What Is To Be Done'? The road ahead is very clear.

erlangner
06-22-2010, 12:01 PM
ANP are useless cowards and servants of the kuffaar who help them to kill and oppress our people.

And their non-violent policy is a big lie. They conducted terrorist attacks against Afghan refugees and mujahedeen in the 80's. They use to get money and weapons from Russians and their communist counterparts in Afghanistan to blow things up and cause chaos and dispair in refugee camps in Peshawar.

This is the attitude, which destroyed the whole Pashtuns. What the other people did for Pashtuns? ANP did not do anything to Afghanistan,rather what Mujahideen did, destruction of whole Afghanistan, and then in Taliban regime complete infrastructure destrcution.

Jana
06-22-2010, 02:50 PM
ANP can never in the main stream. It is very easy to be claled traitor by Pkaistani media and Punjab absed politicians and pakistani army. Pakistani army and ANP can never accept each other.
ANP is a nationalist party and it can be an alloy with other nationalist forces.


lolzz lame excuses are always there when people dont have guts to move on.

Otherwise MQM was the biggest traitor but they have reformed alot and will you believe that this party which no one had even dreamed of fielding its candidates in Khyber Pukhtunkhwa NOW alot of Pashtuns here are its members and the party had fielded its candidates in areas where it was unbelievable.

ANP has great potential only if its shed its tunnel vision and restructure the party above all ANP needs to get rid of communist traitor elements like Afrasiyab khattak who are no friends of Pashtuns.

Currently Haider Hoti the CM of KP province of Pakistan, is sensible man and more such can bring a change.

I had never been a fan of ANP but honestly i feel it should become a main stream party to get to power at center and in that case it can make alot of difference.

Jana
06-22-2010, 02:55 PM
Its clear Hipocrasy. If ANP are so brave and real Pashtuns, then they should build a Red cap Lashkar and drive out the Taliban and establish a pure Nationalistic movement for the betterment for all Pashtuns.

Kind Regards


ANP is not tribal lashkar neither they are hardcore group like JI, JUI why should ANP take up arms.

ABOVE all why dont you come back to your land take up arms and drive the taliban from your area instead of suggesting others

BLS_1919v2.0
06-22-2010, 05:57 PM
Afrasiyaab maybe a dirty commie (by your words) but hoti is a man of epic corrupt proportions. Jana be realistic the chances of MQM even touching a ballot in Pashtunkhwa is when a pig can stand for elections in a muslim country. Please use a politically sound example.

erlangner
06-22-2010, 07:31 PM
lolzz lame excuses are always there when people dont have guts to move on.

Otherwise MQM was the biggest traitor but they have reformed alot and will you believe that this party which no one had even dreamed of fielding its candidates in Khyber Pukhtunkhwa NOW alot of Pashtuns here are its members and the party had fielded its candidates in areas where it was unbelievable.

ANP has great potential only if its shed its tunnel vision and restructure the party above all ANP needs to get rid of communist traitor elements like Afrasiyab khattak who are no friends of Pashtuns.

Currently Haider Hoti the CM of KP province of Pakistan, is sensible man and more such can bring a change.

I had never been a fan of ANP but honestly i feel it should become a main stream party to get to power at center and in that case it can make alot of difference.

Why communist have no place in pakistan for politics. Afrasiab Khattak is a talented person with great ability to organize the party. If he is communist for example, what we have to with his belief. We are doing politics. ANP is a secular political force, and everyone from eveyr religion can join it. It is the name of ideology.
What MQM is doing, all people know. I knwo their popularity, harrasement of journalist to write in their favour, target killing other political opponents, mass killing gathering of other oliticla forces. ANP cannt do it. ANP is of the view, if Pakistan give due rights to pashtoons ok, otherwise its division can be the next option. Because in our faith pakistan is not written.

afghan
06-23-2010, 09:55 PM
MQM has Pashtun supporters now? Dont they always kill Pashtuns in Karachi?
i have heard simillar stories, but its true MQM had its condidate in Swat, she did not win but got many votes, she is also a woman rights activist. she is very active leader of MQM from the area. Soon a story will be seen on the internet, something big is going to happen.

afghan
06-23-2010, 09:58 PM
lolzz lame excuses are always there when people dont have guts to move on.

Otherwise MQM was the biggest traitor but they have reformed alot and will you believe that this party which no one had even dreamed of fielding its candidates in Khyber Pukhtunkhwa NOW alot of Pashtuns here are its members and the party had fielded its candidates in areas where it was unbelievable.

ANP has great potential only if its shed its tunnel vision and restructure the party above all ANP needs to get rid of communist traitor elements like Afrasiyab khattak who are no friends of Pashtuns.

Currently Haider Hoti the CM of KP province of Pakistan, is sensible man and more such can bring a change.

I had never been a fan of ANP but honestly i feel it should become a main stream party to get to power at center and in that case it can make alot of difference.
He seems to be only person with the brain and knowledge in ANP. have you heard Asfandyar.

єѕαρχαι
06-23-2010, 10:30 PM
Khpala khawra khpal ikhtyar.


I voted for them. Atleast pakhtunkhwa got a name due to them, the subsidy of electricity .

even they made a pact with terrorist talibans in swat. but the taliban violated it. taliban wanted to take over more areas and behead more people . so the frontier core was brought to action first . later pakistan army.

Yousafzai Pakhtun
06-25-2010, 07:04 AM
One thing that i don't like in ANP is that now they have become more pakistani than Pashtun.......I remember once in a public gathering Haider Hoti (todays CM) said that "Dvee waye che iqbal khob uleed au jannah ye tabeer uka au pakistan jor sho, Aya pa khoboono mulkuna azadedey shee? ka daasey vee noo daa yo tokra kashmir dey azad kee kana....we got freedom bcoz aur legend Bacha khan and his Khudayee khidmatgars gave sacrifices for that....not Jannah"
And then when he became the CM he went to Mazar-e-Iqbal and said that he was the dreamer of Pakistan and i have great respect for him.....
that is what i don't like in them....they have accepted jannah as Quaid-e-Azam. it means they have forgot The great Bacha khan who struggled for the freedom of pashtuns till his last breath....

Baaqee ka sook wayee che ANP da pukhtano kha tarjumaani na kavee no maidan ta dey shee....bala daasey secular au nationalist party dey raashee mung ba ye support kaoo....

erlangner
06-25-2010, 07:35 AM
Baaqee ka sook wayee che ANP da pukhtano kha tarjumaani na kavee no maidan ta dey shee....bala daasey secular au nationalist party dey raashee mung ba ye support kaoo....

I am of the same opinion. If we have a better altrenative then we will support it for sure. Khalq hassay khabarray kawee, kho hal ye warsara nashta. It is easy to criticse but to solve the porblem is a difficult job.

afghan
06-25-2010, 10:51 AM
One thing that i don't like in ANP is that now they have become more pakistani than Pashtun.......I remember once in a public gathering Haider Hoti (todays CM) said that "Dvee waye che iqbal khob uleed au jannah ye tabeer uka au pakistan jor sho, Aya pa khoboono mulkuna azadedey shee? ka daasey vee noo daa yo tokra kashmir dey azad kee kana....we got freedom bcoz aur legend Bacha khan and his Khudayee khidmatgars gave sacrifices for that....not Jannah"
And then when he became the CM he went to Mazar-e-Iqbal and said that he was the dreamer of Pakistan and i have great respect for him.....
that is what i don't like in them....they have accepted jannah as Quaid-e-Azam. it means they have forgot The great Bacha khan who struggled for the freedom of pashtuns till his last breath....

Baaqee ka sook wayee che ANP da pukhtano kha tarjumaani na kavee no maidan ta dey shee....bala daasey secular au nationalist party dey raashee mung ba ye support kaoo....
i hope you have not heard him during his meetings with Sofi Mammad before the peace deal with the taliban. it was something more worse.