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PakistaniSoilder
05-16-2010, 09:44 PM
This is old news but I feel this is important and should be read. Pervez Musharraf was former president of Pakistan.


Musharraf berates Muslim world
By Zaffar Abbas in Islamabad
Saturday, 16 February, 2002, 16:04 GMT

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Musharraf wants young Muslims to study in the West

Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf has said Islamic countries will remain backward unless they concentrate more on scientific and technological development.
Muslim nations are internally involved in fratricidal conflicts and perceived by the outside world as terrorists with little attention being given on their uplift, he said.
General Musharraf made his comments in an address to a conference of science and technology attended by ministers from Muslim countries.
President Musharraf said the time had come for Islamic nations to take part in collective self-criticism.
Once such an assessment is made, it would not be difficult to realise that the entire Islamic world was far behind the developed world, he argued.

'The most unhealthy'

The Muslim Ummah, or the Islamic world, he said was presently living in darkness.
"Today we are the poorest, the most illiterate, the most backward, the most unhealthy, the most un-enlightened, the most deprived, and the weakest of all the human race," he told the delegates.

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Musharraf wants to rid Pakistan of extremism

President Musharraf then made a comparison of the economic growth in Islamic countries with some developed countries.
While the collective Gross National Product of the all Muslim countries stands at $1,200bn, that of Germany alone is $2,500bn and that of Japan $5,500bn.
He said one of the main reasons for this disparity was that none of the Muslim countries had ever paid any attention to educational and scientific development.
He asked the countries participating in the conference to concentrate on scientific and technological development in order to compete with the developed world.

The real jihad

The Pakistani leader suggested the setting up of a multi-billion dollar fund for such a purpose.
Beside this, he said, there was a need for creating centres of excellence in the field of science and technology.
He also called for the creation of scholarships for young scientists to seek knowledge from universities in developed countries.
President Musharraf described it as the real jihad, or holy war.
Unless this was done, the Islamic world and Muslims would always be perceived as backward, illiterate - those who only indulge in extremism and violence.

BBC News | SOUTH ASIA | Musharraf berates Muslim world (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1824455.stm)

PakistaniSoilder
05-16-2010, 09:53 PM
^^ Education will help significantly as this will promote independent thinking, and Religion should be seperated from the government and have no bearing on government policies.

Everthing revolves around religon and this is causing us to self-destruct.

PakistaniSoilder
05-16-2010, 10:03 PM
^^I am not against religion. Religion is needed.

Religion is the basis of hope. Without hope humanity will not be able to survive.

MazloomyarMaseed
05-17-2010, 04:04 AM
hahahaha this is so funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you think we pashtuns are going to support Mushraff? let me tell you something? In which country is Mushraff currently hiding in at this moment? hes hiding in the uK
and secondly is this the same Mushraff your speaking about

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3480/3964398655_d146327b99.jpg

MazloomyarMaseed
05-17-2010, 04:06 AM
Musharraf's Blame-Game Raises Pashtun Hackles
By Ashfaq Yusufzai

PESHAWAR, Jan 10, 2008 (IPS) - Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf’s initial assertion that the pro-Taliban, Baitullah Mahsud, a Pashtun tribal leader, was behind the assassination of former prime minister Benazir Bhutto has not gone down well in the restless North West Frontier Province (NWFP).

The Awami National Party (ANP), the largest Pashtun (or Pakhtun) political grouping, has expressed annoyance at the allegation.

"The government’s statement holding Waziristan’s tribesmen responsible for the death of Benazir Bhutto is a plot to pitch different nationalities of the country against each other," ANP’s provincial president Afrasiab Khattak told IPS.

"It is extremely unfortunate that the government has put responsibility at the door of the Pakhtun at this delicate moment in the country’s history," he deplored.

Since the United States-led ‘war on terror’ in Afghanistan, and the infiltration of the border areas by pro-Taliban groups, Pakistan’s ethnic Pashtuns have been at the receiving end. Violence has ratcheted up in the NWFP and Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) where the Pakistan military has tried to seal the porous border.

Pashtuns - Afghanistan's most dominant ethnic group and the second-largest ethnic group in Pakistan - played a lead role in fighting and expelling the Soviet army from Afghanistan during the 1980s. They also formed the backbone of the Taliban which ruled Afghanistan until ousted in late 2001 by U.S.-led coalition forces prosecuting the post 9/11 war on terror.

Pakistan, an ally in the war, faced an unprecedented number of suicide bombings last year. When Bhutto was killed in a gunfire attack-cum-suicide blast in Rawalpindi on Dec 27, the headquarters of the Pakistan military, suspicions naturally fell on the Pashtuns and the Taliban which is said to have close links with al-Qaeda.

However, Bhutto’s Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) has pointed fingers at the shadowy Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), the military intelligence. The government has denied the charge, and handed over investigation to Britain’s Scotland Yard.

The ANP’s Khattak has accused President Musharraf of deliberately pitching Pakistan’s different ethnic groups against one another in a "divide and rule" policy resorted to by all unpopular leaders of the world.

He accused the government of trying to make scapegoats of the Pashtuns even though Bhutto had visited the NWFP three times since she returned to Pakistan after nearly nine years in exile in October 2007.

At an election rally in Peshawar, a day before she was murdered, she said: "Pakhtuns are brave. They never break a promise. We have time-tested friends here."

"She (Bhutto) visited the marketplace and mingled with people and spoke with a fruit-seller in Nowshera bazaar despite the life threats," Abdul Wajeeh, a student said her last visit was proof that the assassinated leader did not feel threatened by ordinary Pashtuns.

The Musharraf government had attempted to pin the blame of the previous assassination attempt, the day Bhutto had returned triumphantly to Karachi from exile in Dubai and London, on Mahsud, leader of a pro-Taliban group active in FATA and NWFP.

But Bhutto, the very next day at a press conference, had pointed to the involvement of Pakistan's intelligence agencies in the attacks by mentioning three anonymous men whom she said she had named in a letter to Musharraf on Oct. 16. "I said that if something happens to me, I will hold them responsible rather than militant groups like the Taliban, al-Qaeda or the Pakistani Taliban."

The PPP also demanded the removal of Intelligence Bureau chief, Ijaz Shah, hinting at its links with militancy. Bhutto's later claim that the Oct. 18 blasts were remote-controlled further implied the involvement of forces other than the "religious militants" who are traditionally held responsible for such acts.

"Pakhtuns are the most peace-loving and non-violent and hospitable nation. They like resolution of their intra-family disputes through dialogue. They avoid a collision course," ANP central president Senator Asfandyar Wali Khan told IPS in an interview.

But the damage had been done by Musharraf’s statement. Hundreds of trucks and trailers belonging to the Waziristan Transport Service were set ablaze in the aftermath of the assassination. Also, five petrol pumps were damaged.

"Angry protesters in Sindh (Bhutto’s home province) and Punjab provinces attacked vehicles and petrol pumps owned by Pakhtuns from South Waziristan," Mir Nawaz Khan, president of Waziristan Transport Service, told IPS.

"In Sindh alone, 62 trailers, trucks, oil-tankers and one petrol pump were torched. The Mehran Waziristan Petrol Pump was burnt in Ranipur Sindh, whereas in Sukkur, Ranipur, Karachi, Hyderabad, Thatta, Shikarpur and Badin, 62 vehicles loaded with cement, sugar, fertilisers and other things owned by Pakhtuns were reduced to ashes," said Mohammad Rafiq of Bangash Waziristan Goods Transport from Hyderabad, Sindh.

Amin Wazir, president of the Waziristan Transport Owners’ Association at a news conference demanded compensation for 500 trailers and trucks burnt by rioters. "The government is pitching Pakhtun, Punjabi and Sindhi against each other. The Pakhtun has suffered a great deal in view of the so-called ‘war against terrorism’," he said.

However, the ploy may not be working. Results of a new survey funded by a U.S peace research institute revealed that a strong majority of Pakistanis consider the U.S. military presence in Afghanistan a much more critical threat to their country than al-Qaeda or the Taliban in the border regions

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=40737

PakistaniSoilder
05-17-2010, 04:08 AM
Long Live Musharraf!!!!

MazloomyarMaseed
05-17-2010, 04:10 AM
Long Live Musharraf!!!!


Long live Islam

Here is your Idol again with his Alcoholic wife

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MazloomyarMaseed
05-17-2010, 04:11 AM
http://blogs.reuters.com/pakistan//files/2010/02/cr_mega_633_musharraf-salute.jpg

PakistaniSoilder
05-17-2010, 04:14 AM
Good thing she lives with modern people who do not force her to wear a burka. :woot:

MazloomyarMaseed
05-17-2010, 04:16 AM
Mushraffs wife drinking and this is the so called wife of the muslim defender you consider haha

http://www.makepakistanbetter.com/aimages/sabiha2.gif

MazloomyarMaseed
05-17-2010, 04:18 AM
Good thing she lives with modern people who do not force her to wear a burka. :woot:


hahaha is this modern pakistan???? muree breewww and hera mandi and you call yoruself a muslim army and strong muslim nation, your a fraud, just like your Ismaili Non Muslim Jinnah

http://www.fibre2fashion.com/news/images/miss_pakistan_2608031.JPG

Son of Mountains
05-17-2010, 04:36 AM
hahaha is this modern pakistan???? muree breewww and hera mandi and you call yoruself a muslim army and strong muslim nation, your a fraud, just like your Ismaili Non Muslim Jinnah


1-Plz mind your language....all that u utter, is a repetetion....i m fade up of you in real
2-its a pashtun forum, so keep these kind of pics away

MazloomyarMaseed
05-17-2010, 04:41 AM
1-Plz mind your language....all that u utter, is a repetetion....i m fade up of you in real
2-its a pashtun forum, so keep these kind of pics away


Ohhh did i hit the Pro Pakistani nerve. What kind of Pashtun are you who allows a Punjab to insult Pashtuns on threads. Jinnah is a non muslim, simple as that, Ismailis are not reconised by the majority of Muslims as being a Muslim.

Michin Khel
05-17-2010, 11:47 AM
hahaha is this modern pakistan???? muree breewww and hera mandi and you call yoruself a muslim army and strong muslim nation, your a fraud, just like your Ismaili Non Muslim Jinnah

http://www.fibre2fashion.com/news/images/miss_pakistan_2608031.JPG

you miss to share this one with us
http://www.afghansite.com/images/missafghanistan.jpg

MazloomyarMaseed
05-17-2010, 11:53 AM
you miss to share this one with us
http://www.afghansite.com/images/missafghanistan.jpg

Even tho, shes a bigharata, atleast in Afghanistan, such practice isnt allowed nationwide, in Pakistan Punjab and Karachi, these miss pakistan are accepted and encouraged. Tell me, has this women ever cat walked in Afghanistan infront of the media?

kunar1990
05-17-2010, 12:54 PM
Ohhh did i hit the Pro Pakistani nerve. What kind of Pashtun are you who allows a Punjab to insult Pashtuns on threads. Jinnah is a non muslim, simple as that, Ismailis are not reconised by the majority of Muslims as being a Muslim.

I have never seen such big a chaplos of Panjubi as Son of Mountains.