View Full Version : Viagra and Condom in islam?


Dinosaur Khan
05-09-2010, 03:13 PM
using Viagra and condom is permissible in islam? What our mufti hazrat says about it.

imb706
05-09-2010, 03:18 PM
Well you´d have to be silly not to wear condoms, unless your goal with the person you´re having sex with is to have children. Other than that, always a condom. At least it´s my rule.

inqilab
05-09-2010, 03:26 PM
First were talking about sexual relations with your wife or husband. And not anyone else.

Condoms are allowed as long as they are not made from pig skin. And your intention should not be specifically to prevent pregnancy due to poverty.

As for viagra. All forms of aphrodisiacs are allowed as long as they do not cause intoxication or have negative side affects.

You do not even have to use pills. You have other natural ways.

Allahu alim.

imb706
05-09-2010, 03:43 PM
They used to make condoms from lamb skin, but apparently they aren´t effective in defending against STDs.

inqilab
05-09-2010, 04:01 PM
They do still have them. They are more expensive though and less allergenic from latex. But because of pores in the lamb material. They are not very effective against STDs as you said.

imb706
05-09-2010, 04:17 PM
Ah well there ya go, I´ll probably never use them then.

شمله ور خراساني
05-09-2010, 05:56 PM
Islam is the most liberal religion in many respects.

Roshina
05-09-2010, 06:01 PM
Whoever thinks neither is permissible will have to prove it with evidence FROM Islamic sources (i.e., Quran and/or hadiths).

Oh, and why can't a couple use protection if they're suffering in poverty? Because God provides for us? Well, in case you haven't noticed, God doesn't provide for you just out of nothing; you have to WORK yourself, you have to EARN God's support. You can't just keep on having fifty children and saying, "God provides for them;it's not my responsibility." Umm, yeah, no.

Master Khan
05-09-2010, 06:37 PM
In old times most people had like 8 kids.

شمله ور خراساني
05-09-2010, 06:40 PM
Whoever thinks neither is permissible will have to prove it with evidence FROM Islamic sources (i.e., Quran and/or hadiths).

Oh, and why can't a couple use protection if they're suffering in poverty? Because God provides for us? Well, in case you haven't noticed, God doesn't provide for you just out of nothing; you have to WORK yourself, you have to EARN God's support. You can't just keep on having fifty children and saying, "God provides for them;it's not my responsibility." Umm, yeah, no.

Aphrodisiacs are of two types:
1 – Natural things, such as certain types of foods, plants and the like. There is nothing wrong with consuming these, so long as it is not proven that they are harmful to the body, in which case they should be avoided because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There should be neither harming nor reciprocating harm.” Narrated by Ibn Maajah (2341) and classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Ibn Maajah. It says in al-Adaab al-Shar’iyyah (2/463): “It is haraam to use as medicine or kohl anything that is naajis (impure), or pure but haraam, or harmful, and so on.” End quote.



In the books of the scholars there is frequent mention of the benefits of some kinds of food which are said to increase desire or give one strength for intercourse. For example, al-Haafiz Ibn Hajar (may Allaah have mercy on him) said, when discussing the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), “You should use this aloes-wood (al-‘ood al-hindi) for in it there are seven cures” (narrated by Muslim (5260) and Muslim (4103)): Aloes-wood (al-‘ood al-hindi) is the well-known Indian costmary, and among its benefits are that it aids digestion, stirs desire and clears up pimples. End quote from Fath al-Baari.



The same is also said of fenugreek, pistachios, carob, melon-seeds and so on. See al-Adaab al-Shar’iyyah by Ibn Muflih, 7/3 and 2/370, 375.
It is important not to be extravagant in using such things, or be preoccupied that to such an extent that one becomes obsessed with looking for foods and drinks that will increase his desire.



2 – Drugs and medicines that are used for this purpose. The basic principle concerning these is that they are also permissible, so long as they do not include anything that is haraam such as intoxicants, and are not harmful, in which case they are haraam for these two reasons.


But they should not be used unless there is a need for that, such as being incapacitated, sick or elderly, and in consultation with a trustworthy medical specialist, because some of them are harmful and may be lethal, and others are not lethal but there is no benefit to be gained by using them if one is healthy and has no need of them, even if they increase desire as mentioned in the question. He spoke well who said: Medicine is like soap: it cleans the garment but it also wears it out. So one should avoid using medicines as much as possible.



We will give you an example of a medicine which has become widespread nowadays, namely the drug called Viagra. Use of this drug by some people without any medical exam or consultation has led to a great deal of harm. Concerning this, Dr. ‘Abd-Allaah al-Nu’aymi, a heart specialist in the Zaayid Military Hospital said during a seminar on aphrodisiacs: This drug has side effects, some of which are severe.


There is a study that was carried out in Canada on 8500 people which found that 16% of them suffered headaches and some of them suffered redness and heat especially in the face; some of them suffered from digestive problems and some, especially those who had low blood pressure, found that their blood pressure dropped to dangerous levels. End quote.



He stated that healthy people who do not have any health problems should still consult a doctor, if only briefly, whilst those who had problems, especially any blockage of the arteries of the heart, must consult a doctor first, because “many of them take drugs called nitrates, which interact strongly with Viagra. Viagra prevents this drug from being absorbed by the sick person’s body. We found that the nitrates were multiplied ten times in some cases, which leads to a severe drop in blood pressure, and may cause death. We have heard of deaths which have occurred and most of these deaths happened in such cases, where the person had a heart attack and he had a blockage in the arteries and was taking nitrates, so when he took Viagra with the nitrates, the nitrates multiplied many times and this led to the side effects. End quote.



Secondly:
With regard to taking these aphrodisiacs, no distinction is made between the nights of Ramadaan or any other time when it is permissible to eat and drink. What is permissible to consume is permissible at all times and what is haraam is also haraam at all times. Allaah has permitted the fasting person to enjoy intimacy with his wife after breaking his fast, as He says (interpretation of the meaning): “It is made lawful for you to have sexual relations with your wives on the night of As‑Sawm (the fasts). They are Libaas [i.e. body-cover, or screen, or Sakan (i.e. you enjoy the pleasure of living with them — as in Verse 7:189) Tafsir At-Tabari] for you and you are the same for them. Allaah knows that you used to deceive yourselves, so He turned to you (accepted your repentance) and forgave you. So now have sexual relations with them and seek that which Allaah has ordained for you (offspring), and eat and drink until the white thread (light) of dawn appears to you distinct from the black thread (darkness of night), then complete your Sawm (fast) till the nightfall. And do not have sexual relations with them (your wives) while you are in I‘tikaaf (i.e. confining oneself in a mosque for prayers and invocations leaving the worldly activities) in the mosques. These are the limits (set) by Allaah, so approach them not. Thus does Allaah make clear His Ayaat (proofs, evidences, lessons, signs, revelations, verses, laws, legal and illegal things, Allaah’s set limits, orders, etc.) to mankind that they may become Al-Muttaqoon (the pious”
[al-Baqarah 2:187]
And Allaah knows best.

Islam Q&A



Is it permissible to engage in coitus interruptus or to use a condom?

Praise be to Allaah. It is permissible to engage in coitus interruptus if a person does not want a child, and it is also permissible to use a condom, but that is subject to the condition that the wife gives her permission for that, because she has the right to full enjoyment and also to have a child. The evidence for that is the hadeeth of Jaabir ibn ‘Abd-Allaah (may Allaah be pleased with him) who said: We used to engage in coitus interruptus at the time of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). News of that reached the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and he did not forbid us to do that. Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 250; Muslim, 160
Although that is permitted, it is nevertheless makrooh and intensely disliked. Muslim (1442) narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was asked about coitus interruptus and he said: “That is the secret burying alive of infants.” This indicates that it is strongly disliked.
Al-Nawawi said:
Coitus interruptus means intercourse in which, when ejaculation approaches, the man withdraws and ejaculates outside the vagina. It is makrooh in our view in all circumstances and with all women, whether the woman consents to that or not, because it is a means of preventing offspring. Hence in the hadeeth it is called “the secret burying alive of children,” because it cuts off the means of producing offspring, like killing a newborn by burying him or her alive. With regard to it being haraam, our companions said that it was not forbidden…
These ahaadeeth and others, when taken in conjunction, may be understood as meaning that it is makrooh, but not strongly so, and the reports in which permission is given for that may be understood as meaning that it is not haraam; they do not mean that it is not makrooh.
It is better for the Muslim not to do that, unless there is a need for it, such as if the woman is sick and cannot cope with a pregnancy or it would be too difficult for her or would cause her harm. Also, coitus interruptus cancels out one of the purposes of marriage, which is to have a lot of children, and it also means that the woman’s pleasure is incomplete.



please refer for more explanation to: http://islam-qa.com/en/ref/50326/Contraception

imb706
05-09-2010, 06:40 PM
Islam is the most liberal religion in many respects.

XD.

In old times most people had like 8 kids.

I couldn´t imagine having 8 kids.

ozymandias
05-09-2010, 08:53 PM
Condoms are allowed as long as they are not made from pig skin. And your intention should not be specifically to prevent pregnancy due to poverty.


Personally, I think that is backwards -- if you are already broke and barely able to feed the mouths you have, you have a very good reason not to create more mouths, right? Not only that, but sex/condoms is a cheap way to pass the time. releases stress, brings a couple closer, and helps re-affirm the couples love, all things that poverty stricken couples could stand to have.

شمله ور خراساني
05-09-2010, 08:58 PM
Personally, I think that is backwards -- if you are already broke and barely able to feed the mouths you have, you have a very good reason not to create more mouths, right? Not only that, but sex/condoms is a cheap way to pass the time. releases stress, brings a couple closer, and helps re-affirm the couples love, all things that poverty stricken couples could stand to have.


Backward is a country in Western Europe where the government spends millions of tax revenue on raising *******s and their mothers who are abandoned.

Backward is a country in Western Europe where a large number of people don't know their own father.

That's whats backward.

Levanaye Zalmaye
05-09-2010, 09:21 PM
Backward is a country in Western Europe where the government spends millions of tax revenue on raising *******s and their mothers who are abandoned.

Alexandre Dumas
William of Normandy
Confucius
Leonardo da Vinci
Thomas Paine
Alexander Hamilton
Elizabeth I
Jack London
Aleksandr Herzen
Aleksandr Borodin
Frederick Douglass
Erasmus of Rotterdam
Leon Alberti
August Strindberg
Sarah Bernhardt


These *******s, among others, have influenced millions despite the social stigma many attached to them. Of course it's not moral to abandon a child and its mother but just because some societies don't shun out their '*******s' doesn't mean they don't deserve applause.


Backward is a country in Western Europe where a large number of people don't know their own father.


That's not true, by the way. Do you have any statistics or prove your point?

Levanaye Zalmaye
05-09-2010, 09:22 PM
Islam is the most liberal religion in many respects.

Yet you and your accomplices call for censorship on these forums only.

Roshina
05-09-2010, 09:50 PM
please refer for more explanation to: http://islam-qa.com/en/ref/50326/Contraception

I'd love to refute Islam-qa.com's reasoning because, although I agree with their conclusion, I disagree with their reasoning and with their interpretations of the verses and hadiths they've compiled in support for their claim. ;)

But since I agree with the conclusion, I guess that's more important and there's no reason for me to refute them. No point.

ozymandias
05-09-2010, 09:52 PM
Backward is a country in Western Europe where the government spends millions of tax revenue on raising *******s and their mothers who are abandoned.



A problem that is *much* almost exclusive to those that are poverty stricken -- and would be solved much cheaper with a $.50 condom.

No only that, but since when is helping the poor a bad thing?



Backward is a country in Western Europe where a large number of people don't know their own father.



Again, a problem much higher with those that are poor.



That's whats backward.

No, that was you trying to turn this into an attack on Western culture, and not only failing, but you reinforced my points that preventing the poor from using birth control is backwards.

Thank you for adding support to my point, but could you do so without trying to turn it into an attack?

imb706
05-10-2010, 12:50 PM
Hey, I´m a ******* child XD. Don´t be knocking the *******s.

Zari
05-10-2010, 03:12 PM
ewww....
what is viagra??

Laila
05-10-2010, 03:18 PM
ewww....
what is viagra??
It is a drug used to treat male patients with erectile dysfunction of the penis. When a man cannot sustain a satisfactory erection for intercourse.

It may be because of age, maybe if a patient is treated for antidepressants, artery hypertension, etc.

Zari
05-10-2010, 03:19 PM
ewwwwww..kay to much info...:(...i have been blinded for life..:P..jk

are u guys actually comfortable about this!!

Laila
05-10-2010, 03:21 PM
^^ LOL, sowwwyyy....its a medical condition.

imb706
05-10-2010, 03:22 PM
Viagra is an old players salvation.

Laila
05-10-2010, 03:25 PM
Sometimes its not always the case for older men. Younger men may not be able to have enough blood flow there. Some younger men are unable to achieve erection.

RoseyT
05-10-2010, 03:30 PM
Viagra; an elderly couple's best friends.

Amen.

RoseyT
05-10-2010, 03:30 PM
Also I am with Paktoongal, and she would like to inquire what an erection is. I am too dumbfounded to explain.

Please explain. Thank-you one and all. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

Laila
05-10-2010, 03:34 PM
LOL....you dont know what an erection is? okay, i wont explain it, but i will give you a link as to what an male erection is....

http://www.drugs.com/viagra.html
http://www.4-men.org/maleerection.html


if you need too, you can pm me

Zari
05-10-2010, 03:37 PM
ewwwwwww ok...im never gonna get married...and i never wanna see another old man again....

i have been blinded once again..

inqilab
05-10-2010, 03:40 PM
Whoever thinks neither is permissible will have to prove it with evidence FROM Islamic sources (i.e., Quran and/or hadiths).

Oh, and why can't a couple use protection if they're suffering in poverty? Because God provides for us? Well, in case you haven't noticed, God doesn't provide for you just out of nothing; you have to WORK yourself, you have to EARN God's support. You can't just keep on having fifty children and saying, "God provides for them;it's not my responsibility." Umm, yeah, no.


Duh, if you ever try reading the Quran. That is exactly what it says. Allah provides, but you have to play your part.

Everything is permitted unless an evidence says it is prohibited.

imb706
05-10-2010, 03:42 PM
Someone not knowing what an erection is is um...pretty weird.

And yes I know some younger guys have ED, I was just commenting on who usually uses viagra.

Zari
05-10-2010, 05:19 PM
Someone not knowing what an erection is is um...pretty weird.

And yes I know some younger guys have ED, I was just commenting on who usually uses viagra.

heheh sowwie..:P...its not like i ever took sex ed..:P..

CALM was differnt..and i skipped all the presentations..:P..
i did NOT want to be putting anything on no woddie!!

imb706
05-10-2010, 05:25 PM
Oh yeah I forgot that sex ed classes did that (I never took sex ed myself).

ozymandias
05-10-2010, 05:28 PM
How old are you folks -- and how did you not have Sex Ed?

Zari
05-10-2010, 05:28 PM
LOL...thats a good thing...
hmm i got kicked out of class for laughing uncontrollably at a naked statue one time...

Zari
05-10-2010, 05:29 PM
How old are you folks -- and how did you not have Sex Ed?

im 16..:whistling:

imb706
05-10-2010, 05:36 PM
How old are you folks -- and how did you not have Sex Ed?

I´m 20 and my mom pretty much didn´t want me to go, but it was more because I was ditching school that week.

hmm i got kicked out of class for laughing uncontrollably at a naked statue one time...

I don´t see the humor in that myself but whatever goes with ya :P

Zari
05-10-2010, 05:38 PM
I don´t see the humor in that myself but whatever goes with ya :P[/QUOTE]

i have a VERY immature mind...:Cool:

and yeah nw when i think about it....i dont get what was funny either..:P

Master Khan
05-10-2010, 06:02 PM
I don´t see the humor in that myself but whatever goes with ya :P

i have a VERY immature mind...:Cool:

and yeah nw when i think about it....i dont get what was funny either..:P[/QUOTE]
I can tell :whistling:

Zari
05-10-2010, 06:11 PM
LOL....

im growing up on this site...*wiping away tear*...:P...

Zari
05-10-2010, 06:34 PM
hey pakhtoongal welcome here =)
LOL...manana...:P...ive been here for a while knw..:P