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din
05-09-2010, 01:39 PM
WASHINGTON – Citing newly obtained evidence, senior White House officials said Sunday that the Pakistani Taliban was behind the failed Times Square bombing.
The attempt marks the first time the group has been able to launch an attack on U.S. soil. And while U.S. officials have downplayed the threat — citing the bomb's lack of sophistication — the incident in Times Square and Christmas Day airline bomber indicate growing strength by overseas terrorist groups linked to al-Qaida even as the CIA says their operations are seriously degraded.
The finding also raises new questions about the U.S. relationship with Pakistan, which is widely known to have al-Qaida and other terrorist groups operating within its borders.
Attorney General Eric Holder said that new evidence shows that the Pakistani Taliban was "intimately involved" in the bombing plot. John Brennan, the president's homeland security and counterterrorism adviser, made similar remarks, linking the bomber to the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan, or TTP.
The militant group is believed to be hiding senior al-Qaida leaders, including Osama bin Laden.
"We know that they helped facilitate it," said Holder. "We know that they probably helped finance it. And that he was working at their direction."
Faisal Shahzad, a U.S. citizen of Pakistani descent, is accused of spending five months in Pakistan before returning to the United States in February and preparing his attack.
Shahzad has told investigators that he trained in the lawless tribal areas of Waziristan, where both al-Qaida and the Pakistani Taliban operate. He was arrested aboard an Emirates Airlines jet in New York just minutes before it was scheduled to take off for Dubai.
After the attack, U.S. officials said they were exploring potential links to terrorist groups overseas but said it was likely that Shahzad was acting alone.
Last week, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, told NBC News that "at this point I have no information that it's anything other than a one-off." Likewise, Gen. David Petraeus told The Associated Press that Shahzad apparently operated as a "lone wolf."
Brennan on Sunday refuted suggestions that that the attempted bombing shows that terrorist groups overseas were gaining strength.
"They now are relegated to trying to do these unsophisticated attacks, showing that they have inept capabilities in training," he said.
The link between an attack on U.S. soil and terrorist groups operating inside Pakistan opens up a new chapter in relations between the two countries. Until recently, administration officials have said they thought Islamabad was doing all it could.
Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said Washington expects more cooperation from Pakistan in fighting terrorism and warned of "severe consequences" if an attack on U.S. soil were traced back to the South Asian country.
Brennan said Islamabad was being very cooperative in the investigation but that the U.S. wants to know exactly who may have been helping Shahzad.
"There are a number of terrorist and militant groups operating in Pakistan," he said. "And we need to make sure there's no support being given to them by the Pakistani government."
Brennan would not say whether Shahzad may be connected to fugitive al-Qaida cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, other than to acknowledge his Internet sermons are popular among extremist Muslims.
Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Pakistan has recently stepped up efforts to root out extremist militants.
"The Pakistanis have been doing so much more than 18 months or two years ago any of us would have expected," Gates told reporters at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., this week.
He referred to Pakistani Army offensives, dating to spring 2009, against Taliban extremists in areas near the Afghan border, including in south Waziristan.
Gates said the Obama administration is sticking to its policy of offering to do as much training and other military activity inside Pakistan as the Pakistani government is willing to accept.
"It's their country," Gates said. "They remain in the driver's seat, and they have their foot on the accelerator."
Brennan spoke on CNN's "State of the Union," "Fox News Sunday" and CBS' "Face the Nation." Holder spoke on NBC's "Meet the Press" and ABC's "This Week." Clinton's interview with CBS' "60 Minutes" is set to air Sunday.

imb706
05-09-2010, 01:46 PM
Oh, well thatś creepy. I´ve read up on the leader of the Pakistani Taliban group, one creepy dude.

imb706
05-09-2010, 02:02 PM
Ah yeah, super creepy then XD

Talal
05-09-2010, 02:45 PM
Oh, well thatś creepy. I´ve read up on the leader of the Pakistani Taliban group, one creepy dude.

And then when we fight these taliban ****, people call us evil

imb706
05-10-2010, 01:21 PM
I never called Pakistan evil though.

inqilab
05-11-2010, 03:06 PM
Oh, well thatś creepy. I´ve read up on the leader of the Pakistani Taliban group, one creepy dude.

Do you actually believe in everything what the government tells the public?

imb706
05-11-2010, 03:54 PM
Do you actually believe in everything what the government tells the public? I don´t think any of my opinions on the taliban come from ¨the government¨ (I guess you mean the US government). Let´s just say though, if the Taliban got some presence here in Southern California, I´d be scared.

imb706
05-12-2010, 04:23 PM
Taliban has the biggest presence in Cali in the entire U.S.A

Um, they do? Are they hiding in Death Valley or something?

Taliban means students. As you are aware, California has one of the biggest University systems. But ya, even your dad and you were once Talibs.

Well, I said Taliban, not Talib and from what I understand, isn´t Talib an islamic student? Plus I have no idea if my dad was a student or not, I never even met him.

imb706
05-12-2010, 07:08 PM
Well, I looked it up, and you´re right, Taliban means student.

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/5/12/headlines#5

PakistaniSoilder
05-16-2010, 03:11 AM
Ok so it is the Pakistan Taliban. Who is the guy who attempted to do the bombings? He is a Pashtun who was working with the Pakistani Taliban.

PakistaniSoilder
05-16-2010, 03:13 AM
He is a Pakistani Pashtun.

Son of Mountains
05-16-2010, 03:21 AM
He is a Pakistani Pashtun.
so what do you want to prove then?

PakistaniSoilder
05-16-2010, 03:22 AM
and your point is....?

It shows how Pakistan is creating terrorists left and right.

oh and welcome to PashtunForums be sure to introduce yourself and enjoy your stay.


The point is instead of bashing Pakistan look at your own people's faults.

PakistaniSoilder
05-16-2010, 03:32 AM
Pakistan creates terrorists.

Not Pashtuns, India has nearly 10 to 20 million Pashtuns, you don't here about an Indian Pashtuns blowing times sq now do you?

even in Chile they caught a Pakistani allegedly committing terrorism.

Pakistan is the problem here with it's radical view.


And I am from Pekhawar.

lol, all the terrorists are Pashtuns. All the suicide terrorists in Pakistans who strapped bombs to their bodies were Pashtuns. Your people killed 30,000 innocent Pakistanis. And you are pointing fingers at Pakistani government... The Pakistani ISI saved your very existence from the Soviets. :banana:

PakistaniSoilder
05-16-2010, 03:45 AM
^^^

Why is your name Pakistani, who is your allegiance with? Afghanistan or Pakistan?

BLS_1919v2.0
05-16-2010, 03:51 AM
lol, all the terrorists are Pashtuns. All the suicide terrorists in Pakistans who strapped bombs to their bodies were Pashtuns. Your people killed 30,000 innocent Pakistanis. And you are pointing fingers at Pakistani government... The Pakistani ISI saved your very existence from the Soviets. :banana:

You do know that Saleem Safi interviewed one of these people in the south panjab outfits who clearly stated that majority of suicide bombers are non-pashtuns. If we needed to do suicide bombing, we would have used it a long long time ago, and beheadings as well. However these are alien concepts in pashtun areas (until now). Second of all, say x number of pashtuns are suicide bombers, do you want us to dance to them? Support them killing innocent civilians. Fine, for argument`s sake, say x number of pashtuns are suicide bombers, is that: representative of the population? Are they the only ones killing innocent people? Are the locals against it or supporting it?

PakistaniSoilder
05-16-2010, 03:55 AM
You do know that Saleem Safi interviewed one of these people in the south panjab outfits who clearly stated that majority of suicide bombers are non-pashtuns. If we needed to do suicide bombing, we would have used it a long long time ago, and beheadings as well. However these are alien concepts in pashtun areas (until now). Second of all, say x number of pashtuns are suicide bombers, do you want us to dance to them? Support them killing innocent civilians. Fine, for argument`s sake, say x number of pashtuns are suicide bombers, is that: representative of the population? Are they the only ones killing innocent people? Are the locals against it or supporting it?

No, I know most of you are not like this but the mentality in that region is there. Those suicide bombers are going to hell.

As you already know one cannot commit suicide in Islam and you cannot kill the innocent.

After the partition in 47 the Pakistani Pashtuns wanted to self govern with tribal elders. We allowed them to do this. This is the end result. This is your own making.

Son of Mountains
05-16-2010, 03:57 AM
^^^

Why is your name Pakistani, who is your allegiance with? Afghanistan or Pakistan?
I am supporter of Pakistan always but i ll never bear your anti-Pashtun thoughts......remember

BLS_1919v2.0
05-16-2010, 03:59 AM
No, I know most of you are not like this but the mentality in that region is there. Those suicide bombers are going to hell.

As you already know one cannot commit suicide in Islam and you cannot kill the innocent.

After the partition in 47 the Pakistani Pashtuns wanted to self govern with tribal elders. We allowed them to do this. This is the end result. This is your own making.

Actually it is not there, the problem is that you are not from that area (pashtunkhwa or Afghanistan) so you have made gross assumptions about the region. This is not surprising, a lot of my friends whether anglos or panjabis-desis, make the most absurd assumptions about our society. So please stop. Majority of the people on both sides are against it, and they have a lot of bad feelings towards the double policy of ISI. Hec ask anyone from those areas, little kids can tell you about how their areas were misused. Second of all, we Pashtuns deserve part of the blame, however ISi or america are no angels. You supported a monster and kept feeding it. Now you must pay the piper. We are suffering for our faults, what makes you think, you will get away with yours? You can`t create a fire in someone elses home and expect the fire not to burn you.

About 1947, that is not entirely true. Read up on it, especially the so called referendum and Faqir i ipi.

PakistaniSoilder
05-16-2010, 05:23 PM
I heard all terrorist camps are in Pakistan.

No, they are in Afghanistan.