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Talal
05-05-2010, 07:39 PM
I see people here worshiping butchers like hakeemullah and baitullah mehsud, this thread is for those. This man was a pashtun too, you wont hear of his sacrifice on tv nor did he get any awards or recognition but HE is a hero unlike those TTP monsters.


“WE found his body parts in different parts of the compound”, recounts constable Ghulam Murtaza, a close friend and colleague of the 30-year-old Faisal Khan, pointing towards the spots. The hero was blown up to smithereens holding on to the suicide bomber who tried to enter the G-7 police special branch on March 23. “He saved all of us, if it weren’t for what Faisal Khan did, we would have all been dead that day,” Mr Murtaza said.

http://blog.pakfellows.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/faisal_khan_shaheed.jpg

“He was a dutiful and an extremely simple man. He loved to play basketball and badminton,” he said. Faisal Khan’s parents were no longer alive and he had no family of his own. They were in total six brothers and one sister. His younger brother, Shah Khalid, who is based in Dubai, was very close to him. He said Faisal Khan was a gold medalist in basketball. “He won a gold medal for Under-17 basketball tournament. He was very interested in this sport,” Mr Khalid added. His older brother said he was a happy go lucky man and was called ‘malang’. “At home we called him ‘badsha’ he enjoyed light food his favourite was barbeque chicken and was an avid drinker of tea. He always wanted to be part of the army or police … he was very duty minded.” “Faisal Khan wanted to achieve something great. Even when the terrorist attack on Sri Lankan cricket team took place at Liberty Market, Lahore, he used to say that he would want to die in the line of duty,” said Amanullah, a police officer. And that is certainly what Faisal achieved. Despite the poor conditions of the police and the faulty hierarchic and bureaucratic system in the police force, he sank with his ship. But was he acknowledged by the state as a hero? Certainly not. Prime Minister’s adviser on Interior Senator Rehman Malik had announced Rs150,000 for his family — which is a measly amount for someone’s life — for someone who sacrificed his life for others and is nothing less than a national hero. So sad is the situation that the police have to submit a recommendation for an award ‘Hilal-i-Jurrat’ and more money for his brave feat.

The G-7 special police branch building is a poorly kept place.

Even after the blast the compound has scanty security. The entrance has a guard behind a barricade of blue sacks of sand. A line of barbed wire is all by way of its defence.

As I left the compound I saw a young bearded boy with a badminton bag by his side raising his hands in prayer. “I used to come here for my Asr prayer, I got to know Faisal Khan over time…he was a very decent man … quiet and kind, when I found out he had died I was just deeply saddened.” My day at the police station was interesting and eerie at the same time. I met a lot of po lice officers who knew Faisal and then a couple of those who came to visit the police station.

A security analyst happened to have arrived just when I was leaving and he mentioned how he had insisted that they beef up their security with the mounting threats. “But they always said they didn’t have funds.” This points to yet another variable- the lack of investment by the government in the police force.

The compound was silent and in the corner where they found the largest part of Faisal’s body was now a kind of memorial in the making, a sheath and a few bunches of flowers lay there. The policemen came out quietly as I interviewed various people, they stood silently.

There was a strong sense of loss. They expressed their gratitude for the fact that someone was covering the heroic story of Faisal Khan’s sacrifice. I actually felt ashamed that someone who should be counted as a national hero has hardly been acknowledged -probably like many others.

Sadly the state too has not shown its appreciation of such a man who saved the lives of so many especially in a time when they are most ill-equipped and the prime targets”. Just think about it how many people would have done what he did? He could have run away but he didn’t when he saw the threat he dealt with it,” said Faisal’s brother.

It's individuals like Faisal Khan who make the difference but get little acknowledgement. When will the government realise that their faces are saved from public humiliation because of the sacrifice of many Faisal Khans.

شمله ور خراساني
05-05-2010, 08:06 PM
where was this hero when Pakistani army and Pakistani police opressed and killed innocent people?

Talal
05-05-2010, 08:18 PM
^ WHEN ??? Man can you guys just stay out of my threads ? if you wanna blab something about Pakistan next time, bring in some evidence or something k ?and if you cant then dont bother posting and derailing.. A guy gave his life protecting innocent people and the best response you could muster was a dumb comment about Pakistan.

شمله ور خراساني
05-05-2010, 08:22 PM
^ WHEN ??? Man can you guys just stay out of my threads ? if you wanna blab something about Pakistan next time, bring in some evidence or something k ?and if you cant then dont bother posting and derailing.. A guy gave his life protecting innocent people and the best response you could muster was a dumb comment about Pakistan.
Sorry. I don't consider police and army in Pakistan innocent.

Maybe killing them was not a good thing. Allah knows best.

BUt don't come telling me Pakistani army and police are innocent.

Joining the army or the police in Afghanistan & Pakistan is like joining a gang or an organized drug cartel in AMerica. There is NO WAY you can be legit once you are a member.

Maiwand
05-05-2010, 08:40 PM
[O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily God guideth not a people unjust.] (Al-Ma’dah 5: 51)

Talal
05-05-2010, 08:41 PM
^ Thats your personal opinion then you cant generalise on the basis of your personal opinion, this is a thread to honour one of our fallen brothers..lets keep it that way

Maiwand
05-05-2010, 08:46 PM
Theire salaries come directly or indirectly from Pentagon, Brussels, IMF or World Bank.
That means they are fighting a war in the interest of the unbelievers and that makes them unbelievers according to that clear quranic verse.

Talal
05-05-2010, 08:49 PM
^ That means you can just leave this thread alone

Ive never seen such disregard for heroism anywhere, but you need atleast a lil bit of honour to recognise it

Maiwand
05-05-2010, 09:03 PM
I am sorry, i was not talking about this man. Of course he did a good thing and hopefully he will go to Jennah. I was just talking about the pakistani army and policy generally.

Talal
05-05-2010, 09:07 PM
^ My reply is still the same, Pakistani Army is out there defending our people i have nothing but respect for them..Your personal opinions are your own, present them with relevant sources in relevant threads

شمله ور خراساني
05-05-2010, 09:10 PM
I am sorry, i was not talking about this man. Of course he did a good thing and hopefully he will go to Jennah. I was just talking about the pakistani army and policy generally.
Dont say Jennah. It sounds similar to Jinnah. And Jinnah means something else in Pakistan.

Maiwand
05-05-2010, 09:11 PM
defending your people against whom? Are they not defending the interests of Amerika by killing Pashtuns? By the way Pakistan is not a sovereign country anymore.

Talal
05-05-2010, 09:21 PM
^ yeeaaah i would be pissed off if it wasnt the first time i heard this on this forum..you can leave this thread.....nOW

شمله ور خراساني
05-05-2010, 09:29 PM
Maiwand, this guy is a hardcore supporter of Pakistan. He is preaching pro pakistan nonsense here all the time.

But I think he is a really young kid. So take it easy on him. He probably never been to areas where Pakistani government massacred it's own people.

Talal
05-05-2010, 09:34 PM
^ I know what it means to be loyal and why dont you "refute" this "non-sense" with some source other than your own conspiracy theories.. thats like a forbidden question here no ? go hit google or something and dont derail this thread

Maiwand
05-05-2010, 09:38 PM
^So according to you against whom is the Pakistani army today fighting?
Is it against Black Water, CIA, which have occupied your country and have their biggest head-quarters in Islamabad?
Their drones are 24 hours a day bombarding Pakistani villages and you still think that Pakistan is a sovereign state. If it wasn't for the money that they get from IMF and World Bank the government would't survive for one they.

Or is the Pakistani army fighting against their own people in Waziristan, NWF etc.?

abubaker
05-05-2010, 09:40 PM
there's no conspiracy here bro, every one knows Pakistani/Afghan armies are being payed by the kufar to fight their wars, these people are killing their own brothers on the command of the kufar

Talal
05-05-2010, 10:13 PM
^So according to you against whom is the Pakistani army today fighting?

Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan..they have long beards, dont like to shower much have guns but no balls..a few months back could be seen blowing up schools and killing innocents

Is it against Black Water, CIA, which have occupied your country and have their biggest head-quarters in Islamabad?

I think your confusing PM house and the National Assembly for Blackwater, again read my posts in this thread

Also read these articles i posted in the other thread..All you guys need is a bone and you guys can make the biggest issue out of it


Crackdown launched against Blackwater/Xe private security companies, 3 guards arrested

The federal police conducted a search operation against several security companies in different sectors of the capital after recovering of illegal arms from the house of an owner of a security company and arrested three security guards.
According to sources, the late night operation was conducted by the police after getting green signal from the interior ministry.
The late night raids on other security companies were made after large cache of arms were seized from a company providing security to US diplomats. The police during the raid inquired about details of licenses of arms.
Kohsar Police has also arrested three security guards of security company on suspicion.
Sources told that the Interior Ministry after recovering of illegal arms in huge quantity from the owner of house of Inter-Risk Security Company has decided to conduct a survey of hiring 200 residential buildings by US embassy. Sources said that the decision has been taken to know objectives behind hiring these houses.
Meanwhile US Embassy spokesman Rick Snelsire said the US contract with Inter-Risk to provide security at the embassy and consulates took effect this year. It is believed to be the first US contract for the firm, Snelsire said. He did not know how long the contract was for or what it was worth.
“Our understanding is they obtained licenses with whatever they brought into the country to meet the contractual needs,’’ he said. “We told the government that we had a contract with Inter-Risk.’’
A man who answered the phone number listed for the company and identified himself as Riaz Hussain said a raid had occurred, but gave no more information.
According to Inter-Risk’s website, it was first formed in 1988 and offers wireless home alarm systems as well as security guards and other services.
Though the US Embassy in Islamabad does have American security staff, much of the work is done by local workers. At checkpoints and gates leading to the embassy compound, for instance, Pakistani security guards inspect vehicles and log in visitors.
Scandals involving private contractors have dogged the United States in the Middle East and South Asia.
In Washington on Friday, the Commission on Wartime Contracting heard testimony about another contractor – ArmorGroup North America – involving alleged illegal and immoral conduct by its guards at the US Embassy in Afghanistan.
Earlier this year, the Iraqi government refused to grant Xe Services – the new name for what was once Blackwater – an operating license amid continued outrage over a 2007 lethal firefight involving some of its employees in Baghdad, although the State Department has temporarily extended a contract with a Xe subsidiary to protect US diplomats in Iraq.
Many of the recent rumors in Pakistan have been prompted by US plans to expand its embassy space and staff.
Among the other unsubstantiated stories the United States denies: that 1,000 US Marines will land in the capital, and that Americans will set up a Guantanamo-style prison


Police raid US embassy-contracted security firm: dozens of unlicensed weapons impounded

ISLAMABAD (September 20 2009): Islamabad Police on Saturday raided a local private security firm hired by the US Embassy and impounded dozens of unlicensed weapons at a time when the private security contractor was under unusual scrutiny. Police have recovered 61 assault rifles and nine pistols in the raid besides arresting two employees of the Inter-Risk private security company, spokesman of Islamabad Police Rana Akram told a news conference here.

Reporters were also shown the disputed weapons. The spokesman said that the Kohsar Police received information about concealing of huge quantity of arms and ammunition in a house in F-6/1 sector, owned by the owner of Inter-risk security company. The police in league with Islamabad Capital Territory (ICT) Administration raided the house, where arms were seized.

Arms and ammunition were concealed in the servant quarter of the house, the spokesman said, adding that two persons Tauqeer Ahsan s/o Saif Ali resident of Narowal, Muhammad Khan s/o Sher Zaman resident of Fateh Jang were arrested during the raid. The nabbed persons revealed during the preliminary investigation that the recovered arms and ammunition are owned by Ali Jaffer Zaidi who is the owner of Inter-risk security company.

Giving details of the recovered weapons, the spokesman said that 61 repeater guns, nine 30 bore pistols, one 22 bore pistol and 545 rounds were recovered in raid. He said that during the search of another house (No 62) one 7mm rifle, one repeater, computer files, registers and other items were also recovered. No NOC or licenses of the weapons were presented while several rifles were also found tempered, he added.

Akram said police are investigating whether any other private security firms are using illegal weapons. Meanwhile, Business Recorder has learnt that law enforcement agencies have arrested the owner of Inter-Risk security company, Ali Jaffer Zaidi, a facilitator of notorious Blackwater World-wide.

Captain Zaidi, a retired officer of Special Services Group (SSG), an elite commando force of Pakistan Army was arrested from Islamabad office of his security company namely 'Care and Caring', intelligence sources told this scribe. They said that Captain Zaidi along with another Army retired officer Captain Bernard Masih had recruited more than 200 retired army officials mostly from SSG and they were being given special training at a recently established training camp at Rawat, in the outskirts of Islamabad.

Sources alleged that Captain Zaidi was recruiting army personnel and training them to use sophisticated weapons for notorious Blackwater. These trained personnel would be used by Blackwater programmes in Pakistan. They have been offered lucrative salaries and other perks and privileges and are being provided training for quick response against any target as per international standards, sources said.

Sources revealed that Blackwater is preparing a quick response force in Pakistan by hiring local people to meet its interests. Captain Bernard Masih, a retired Pakistan Army official from 10th corps, was stopped by Islamabad Police at Kashmir Highway a few days ago and sophisticated weapons were found from his car; high officials were informed about the cache and a SP ranked officer along with a contingent of police officials reached the spot and started inquiry but Bernard thrashed the SP and threatened him of dire consequences.

Later, the US Embassy in Islamabad contacted high government functionaries and demanded immediate termination of the SP of Islamabad Police, sources said, adding that the SP was transferred to Balochistan under heavy pressure from US officials.

When this scribe contacted the Islamabad Police for details of the incident, a well-placed official on condition of anonymity confirmed the incident saying that besides US officials some government functionaries also want a clean chit to Blackwater in the country.
Captain Bernard was released after phone calls from high government officials and was transferred to Balochistan. This situation has created a sense of insecurity among police and civilian administration, he said, adding that Blackwater wants easy movement of its officials and weapons without any hindrance. Sources also revealed that a few days back law enforcement agencies arrested Captain Zaidi but later released under heavy pressure. http://www.brecorder.com/index.php?id=963030

Their drones are 24 hours a day bombarding Pakistani villages and you still think that Pakistan is a sovereign state. If it wasn't for the money that they get from IMF and World Bank the government would't survive for one they.

Or is the Pakistani army fighting against their own people in Waziristan, NWF etc.?

there's no conspiracy here bro, every one knows Pakistani/Afghan armies are being payed by the kufar to fight their wars, these people are killing their own brothers on the command of the kufar

Dude TTP arent our brothers, didnt you see what they did to our brothers, all those innocent kids, did you not see those innocents losing they're lives when these ****heads kept using innocent kids to do suicide bombings ?

US has promised 7 billion dollars in aid to Pakistan, know what Pakistan's actual actual bill is so far 40 Billion dollars !

And both of you either provide source for your "theories" or stop making statements that you cant back up

Talal
05-05-2010, 10:51 PM
^


'war on terror’ cost pakistan $50bn: Imran khan


http://ptiuk.org/news/the-muslim-news-uk-imran-khan-war-on-terror-has-cost-pakistan-50bn-and-40000-people-killed-n707.html



war on terror cost pakistan $35bn: Fm qureshi



islamabad: Foreign minister shah mahmood qureshi says the war against terror has cost pakistan more than 35 billion dollars while the cost in human lives is immeasurable. speaking at a press conference with eu foreign policy chief javier solana, qureshi said pakistan wants aid promised by the international community to translate into reality to ameliorate the miseries of the affected people.
Talking about his meeting with mr solana, qureshi said discussions were held to strengthen the strategic dialogue between the eu and pakistan and some areas of cooperation were identified.
Solana said the eu recognises that pakistan is going through difficult times and a number of steps are being taken to help pakistan economically, including giving pakistan market access to the european union.
Solana, who is on a two day visit to pakistan, visited the jalozai camp earlier in the day and was briefed on the displaced families and the issues related to their assistance.
Qureshi briefed the eu foreign policy chief on the engagement of pakistan and india at the top level, the military operation and the phased return of the idps.
Mr solana said a number of issues are on the agenda of eu's engagement with pakistan, including terrorism. — dawnnews


http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/04-war-on-terror-cost-pakistan-35bn-qureshi-qs-10

imb706
05-05-2010, 11:18 PM
I know what it takes to be an hero.

Talal
05-05-2010, 11:32 PM
^ Heroes never say that and you would be one by now if you had what it took be one.

imb706
05-05-2010, 11:38 PM
Do you even know what "an hero" means?

Talal
05-05-2010, 11:44 PM
^ I know when i see one, now you can remove yourself from this thread

imb706
05-05-2010, 11:48 PM
An hero means to commit suicide in a funny way, so you can see the act of suicide as a physical object? Lol, I mean you can at least do five minutes of internet research before making an ass of yourself.

Talal
05-05-2010, 11:51 PM
^ I dont need to make an ass of myself since your already proving to be more adept at that than i could ever be..now lets try again shall we..simple english really... g o a w a y

imb706
05-05-2010, 11:56 PM
Well, the way you type, you come off as an idiot, not that you really are, I don't know you, but you present yourself terribly. http://encyclopediadramatica.com/An_hero

Talal
05-06-2010, 12:03 AM
^ Atleast i am not derailing a discussion by self glorification..you can really leave now since you got nothing meaningful to add here, your smart enough to understand that right ?

imb706
05-06-2010, 12:05 AM
Self glorification? I still don't think you know what it means to be "an hero" :D XD.

Talal
05-06-2010, 12:10 AM
And you never will, those are men of honour but if its any consolation you do qualify for the title of an ignoramus

look it up on wiki

inqilab
05-06-2010, 01:59 AM
Is this the one who died at the sitara market?

imb706
05-06-2010, 07:03 AM
Men of honor? Oh please...

MazloomyarMaseed
05-06-2010, 07:04 AM
Men of honor? Oh please...


A hero is loved by some but hated by many.

imb706
05-06-2010, 07:06 AM
Um..okay.

Maiwand
05-06-2010, 07:22 AM
ahaha, he calls our reliable information "conspiracy theory" and his sources are western and Pakistani media, ahaha

imb706
05-06-2010, 07:30 AM
Enough of these personal attacks, let's be more cordial with each other.

*Mahzala*
05-06-2010, 08:19 AM
Talal Brother, telling someone to leave a thread or not post in it is not the solution. Everyone is entitled to different views and everyone will express them. If you're looking for views that will mirror yours, that is very unlikely to come your way (on this forum at least). There are always two sides to a story, and anyone presenting either side will stand by theirs. You have opened the topic to discussion, now carry on. Be open to difference, as it is bound to come your way. On a general note, I like your contributions to this forum. Always informative and entertaining. Keep them coming.

As for everyone else, remember basic etiquettes when posting your views. Remember that most of us only know each other through our posts. So watch out for the kind of language you use and what sort of tone it creates and the hidden messages it may send. My intentions are not to disappoint.

imb706
05-06-2010, 08:23 AM
Thanks Mesbah, I appreciate it. I know I haven't been the most cordial, but I will be from now on.

*Mahzala*
05-06-2010, 08:40 AM
You're most welcome Jameson. We have a saying in Pakhto which can be translated as: A fish is always fresh no matter when you take it out of water. Which basically means, it is never too late =)

imb706
05-06-2010, 08:46 AM
Thanks, I very much appreciate that :)

Palwasha
05-06-2010, 10:07 AM
He is a honorable man. That was a nice read.

Like the Quran says, when you save 1 man its like saving humanity.

Agreed, a very noble act on his part.. Khudai di obakhi.

Talal
05-06-2010, 12:52 PM
Talal Brother, telling someone to leave a thread or not post in it is not the solution. Everyone is entitled to different views and everyone will express them. If you're looking for views that will mirror yours, that is very unlikely to come your way (on this forum at least). There are always two sides to a story, and anyone presenting either side will stand by theirs. You have opened the topic to discussion, now carry on. Be open to difference, as it is bound to come your way. On a general note, I like your contributions to this forum. Always informative and entertaining. Keep them coming.

As for everyone else, remember basic etiquettes when posting your views. Remember that most of us only know each other through our posts. So watch out for the kind of language you use and what sort of tone it creates and the hidden messages it may send. My intentions are not to disappoint.

I am not looking for views that mirror mine, and yes i am open to discussions but you have to have an argument to discuss.. An argument requires some source or something that you can base your argument on, these guys aren't discussing they're trolling the same rhetoric in every single thread and when i ask them why they say that or to provide a proof or source atleast for whatever they're saying they reply with this

ahaha, he calls our reliable information "conspiracy theory" and his sources are western and Pakistani media, ahaha

your a mod i didnt expect you to call on me especially when it says in the forum rules tha you have to add a source to back up your claim

Salam respected members,

I would highly appreciate it if you guys can add a source when you make a claim or attempt to state a fact, Not only would it improve our readership and give respect to the person who has put enormous research behind the source but it would also add more weight to your claim/argument.


Thank you very much,


Dera manana

And this exactly wasnt a controversial political thread, it was merely meant to honour a fallen brother who died protecting innocent civilian and look at the comments below.

These guys are violating forum rules and your telling me not to stop them from derailing this thread more than they already have ?

and i didnt tell them to shove it right away, i asked them politely to keep the posts relevant to the topic


^ Thats your personal opinion then you cant generalise on the basis of your personal opinion, this is a thread to honour one of our fallen brothers..lets keep it that way

and still they continued to troll and i am dissapointed that as a mod you didn't see that. I am open to discussion sis, i have no problem with arguing but there are certain rules that come along with it, and im not the one whose violating them

Thank you

and you can read these posts below and see what they're "discussing"


where was this hero when Pakistani army and Pakistani police opressed and killed innocent people?

Sorry. I don't consider police and army in Pakistan innocent.

Maybe killing them was not a good thing. Allah knows best.

BUt don't come telling me Pakistani army and police are innocent.

Joining the army or the police in Afghanistan & Pakistan is like joining a gang or an organized drug cartel in AMerica. There is NO WAY you can be legit once you are a member.

Theire salaries come directly or indirectly from Pentagon, Brussels, IMF or World Bank.
That means they are fighting a war in the interest of the unbelievers and that makes them unbelievers according to that clear quranic verse.

defending your people against whom? Are they not defending the interests of Amerika by killing Pashtuns? By the way Pakistan is not a sovereign country anymore.

Maiwand, this guy is a hardcore supporter of Pakistan. He is preaching pro pakistan nonsense here all the time.

But I think he is a really young kid. So take it easy on him. He probably never been to areas where Pakistani government massacred it's own people.

^So according to you against whom is the Pakistani army today fighting?
Is it against Black Water, CIA, which have occupied your country and have their biggest head-quarters in Islamabad?
Their drones are 24 hours a day bombarding Pakistani villages and you still think that Pakistan is a sovereign state. If it wasn't for the money that they get from IMF and World Bank the government would't survive for one they.

Or is the Pakistani army fighting against their own people in Waziristan, NWF etc.?

I know what it takes to be an hero.

Men of honor? Oh please...

ahaha, he calls our reliable information "conspiracy theory" and his sources are western and Pakistani media, ahaha

*Mahzala*
05-06-2010, 01:14 PM
your a mod i didnt expect you to call on me especially when it says in the forum rules tha you have to add a source to back up your claim

I have read the forum rules and understand them. And I have also addressed the other participants of this thread in my post. You were not alone. If however you feel that I am targetting you and disregarding the posts of other members, I apologise, but that is not the case.

And this exactly wasnt a controversial political thread, it was merely meant to honour a fallen brother who died protecting innocent civilian and look at the comments below.

I understand that and appreciate it. Thank you for sharing it with us. Whether you believe me or not, I do, wholeheartedly, think you share informative content on this site, and it is appreciated.

These guys are violating forum rules and your telling me not to stop them from derailing this thread more than they already have?

and i didnt tell them to shove it right away, i asked them politely to keep the posts relevant to the topic

I haven't accused you of violating forum rules. In fact, I am aware that you assissted in creating them and so you would understand them better than many. If you reread, I have asked that you keep the discussion running. The point you have failed to understand, or I have failed to communicate is that discussion - yes - but within the boundaries of etiquette and respect, and I didn't address you alone.

My intentions are not to disappoint. =)

Talal
05-06-2010, 01:33 PM
I have read the forum rules and understand them. And I have also addressed the other participants of this thread in my post. You were not alone. If however you feel that I am targetting you and disregarding the posts of other members, I apologise, but that is not the case.



I understand that and appreciate it. Thank you for sharing it with us. Whether you believe me or not, I do, wholeheartedly, think you share informative content on this site, and it is appreciated.



I haven't accused you of violating forum rules. In fact, I am aware that you assissted in creating them and so you would understand them better than many. If you reread, I have asked that you keep the discussion running. The point you have failed to understand, or I have failed to communicate is that discussion - yes - but within the boundaries of etiquette and respect, and I didn't address you alone.

My intentions are not to disappoint. =)

cheers, if it was the first time i was reading comments from the respective members i would have been more accomodating, but since its the same story in every thread and the exact same rhetoric without anything to validate its authenticity, you can see why i told them to just leave the thread. And i might have come off as being rude, but thats to be expected considering the prupose of the thread was just to appreciate a guy who already didnt get any recognition at national level and this thread except for some comments was completely butchered.

But i appreciate the effort on your part. Thanks or manana ? im sorry im still trying to learn pashto here lol

*Mahzala*
05-06-2010, 01:38 PM
But i appreciate the effort on your part. Thanks or manana ? im sorry im still trying to learn pashto here lol

I totally understand your stance. You don't apologise for the effort you make towards something good. You are a fast learner. Keep it up. And yes, both work and mean the same thing, but you don't need to thank me. =)