View Full Version : What do you guys think of Iran?


imb706
05-02-2010, 06:54 AM
I'm wondering, as it seems nowadays a lot of Muslims seem to be in some sort of solidarity with Iran, I'm wondering what you guys think, as most of you seem Muslim.

MazloomyarMaseed
05-02-2010, 10:51 AM
I'm wondering, as it seems nowadays a lot of Muslims seem to be in some sort of solidarity with Iran, I'm wondering what you guys think, as most of you seem Muslim.


All i know is, We know that the Khazars are hungary for Irans Oil so expect new anti shia alqueda groups pop up, but i guess muslims are abit more wiseer than how they were during the soviet times, plus Iran has powerful allies as well with alot of nukes themselve.

We willl not make the same mistake on Iran, America is only obeying orders from Israel as usual, the time will come whene very israeli khazar will be booted from every country and from face of the earth.

شمله ور خراساني
05-02-2010, 11:16 AM
All i know is, We know that the Khazars are hungary for Irans Oil so expect new anti shia alqueda groups pop up, but i guess muslims are abit more wiseer than how they were during the soviet times, plus Iran has powerful allies as well with alot of nukes themselve.

We willl not make the same mistake on Iran, America is only obeying orders from Israel as usual, the time will come whene very israeli khazar will be booted from every country and from face of the earth.
Have you ever read a book in your life?

http://www.amazon.com/Treacherous-Alliance-Secret-Dealings-Israel/dp/0300120575

imb706
05-02-2010, 11:32 AM
I looked up this Khazar thing, and it seems to be a theme of fruitcake conspiracy theories.

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So stop with your retarded ramblings already.

plus Iran has powerful allies as well with alot of nukes themselve.I thought Iran denied having and wanting nukes. I guess not anymore lol.

Anyway, what do you the rest of you think of Iran?gl

Khushal Khan Khattak
05-02-2010, 12:50 PM
All i know is, We know that the Khazars are hungary for Irans Oil so expect new anti shia alqueda groups pop up,....

We willl not make the same mistake on Iran, America is only obeying orders from Israel as usual, the time will come whene very israeli khazar will be booted from every country and from face of the earth.

Alhamdulillah Bro! Glad people know who Khazars really are.

And I agree, I dont care whether they are Shia or whatever, I am with Iran and against the Khazars and their allies. What the naive Americans have been led to believe is that Iran is the bog devil, as usual, this is basically:

"Let two barbarians kill each other for your own ends" tactics that both the poor Iranians and the naive Americans are being subjected to.

I looked up this Khazar thing, and it seems to be a theme of fruitcake conspiracy theories.


Ashkenazi = Non Semitic Jew = Not Abrahamic blood = Turkic Mongols
Sephardic = Semitic Jew = Abrahmaic blood.

As for the DNA, the DNA of the Ashkenazi has pattern bandings of SNRs, Microsatellite regions, RFLPs and others that resemble Turks and what we call White Mongols.

However ~20% of the Ashkenazi have DNA that has semitic traits! How?

These once Central Asian and later Eastern European Mongol tribes converted to Judaism by preachers from Babylonia, Persia, Central Asian and modern day Afghanistan and Pakistani Jews around 700-1200 AD.

In some cases, the real Jews (Sephardic = Babylonia, Persia, Central Asian and modern day Afghanistan and Pakistani) even married the Askhenazi.

Hence the DNA occurance.

"The simplest technique to prove Askhenazi are White Mongols and not Semitic is that Sephardics and Arabs have Black/Brown hair and Brown eyes & tan complexion, The Askenazi dont. Rather, like the Turks and Eastern Europeans, they have blond/red hair, green/blue eyes and are very fair/pale. The Israelites were not White pale people".

As for history, one the most famous of Sephardic Rabbis/ scholars of Mishna and Halaka etc. was the Muslim Spains Jewish Prime Minister, who travelled recieved a letter from the king of the converted Jews, the Khazars where the king write down his family tree that show his descent from Japheth Not Shem.

Khushal Khan Khattak
05-02-2010, 01:02 PM
After what Iranians did to those innocent 3,000 Afghans recently, I wouldnt care even if America drops a Nuke on them.

And once they do that and occupy Iran, then be sure sister to know that they then will never leave the occupation of the dear fatherland Afghanistan. :no::cryy:

MazloomyarMaseed
05-02-2010, 01:12 PM
Have you ever read a book in your life?

http://www.amazon.com/Treacherous-Alliance-Secret-Dealings-Israel/dp/0300120575



OHHH i guess you are also on the Anti Iran band wagan just like your Salafi followers were against Saddam

Sangar...Your arab brothers will never accept the fact that Iran will never bee ruled by Arabs, just accep it, and secondly the first people Israel and AMerica is going to send are little wahabists Salafist alqueda nutjobs in the form of holy fighers into iran to do their usual garbage cowardly operaitons of suicide bombings etc,

Sangar, I can show you 100000's of books of the Israeli, America and Salafist Alqueda connections etc etc etc, just watch charlie wilsons movie for example, Salafi Saudi Wahabists in bed with America and Israel to fight Soviets, you will do the same again, You will go in bed with America and Israel against Iran, and when Iran is occupied, there we go again, whining cry baby Salafi speaking of how the west wants to take over the muslim world.

Sangar, Iran is very united, and i know they wil never be a slave of CIA agent Salafists.

MazloomyarMaseed
05-02-2010, 01:13 PM
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So stop with your retarded ramblings already.

I thought Iran denied having and wanting nukes. I guess not anymore lol.

Anyway, what do you the rest of you think of Iran?gl


Oh god....Khazars are not jewish by blood, majority of jews today are Khazars, they are like the Jewish version of Salafism. Radical, Cruel etc and not of any pure blood.

Khushal Khan Khattak
05-02-2010, 01:15 PM
Here is even more proof that Khazars are Monngols.

The famous historical texts known as the "Khazar correspondence" an exchange of letters in the 950s or 960s between Hasdai ibn Shaprut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasdai_ibn_Shaprut), foreign secretary to the Caliph (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliph) of Cordoba (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%B3rdoba,_Spain), and Joseph (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_%28Khazar%29), Khagan of the Khazars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars) of Khazria includes the following reply from King Joseph himself the King of the converted Jews about his lineage.

Joseph then proceeds to provide a genealogy of his people. Though a fierce Jewish nationalist, proud of wielding the
‘sceptre of Judah”, he cannot, and does not, claim for them Semitic descent; he traces their ancestry not to Shem, but to
Noah’s third son, Japheth; or more precisely to Japheth’s grandson, Togarma, the ancestor of all Turkish tribes. “We
have found in the family registers of our fathers,” Joseph asserts boldly, “that Togarma had ten sons, and the names of
their offspring are as follows: Uigur, Dursu, Avars, Huns, Basilii, Tarniakh, Khazars, Zagora, Bulgars, Sabir. We are
the sons of Khazar, the seventh…”

the characteristic feature in this genealogical exercise is the amalgamation of Genesis with Turkish tribal tradition.

MazloomyarMaseed
05-02-2010, 01:20 PM
Here is even more proof that Khazars are Monngols.

The famous historical texts known as the "Khazar correspondence" an exchange of letters in the 950s or 960s between Hasdai ibn Shaprut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasdai_ibn_Shaprut), foreign secretary to the Caliph (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliph) of Cordoba (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%B3rdoba,_Spain), and Joseph (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_%28Khazar%29), Khagan of the Khazars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars) of Khazria includes the following reply from King Joseph himself the King of the converted Jews about his lineage.








Have you noticed his rants against Islam, but if you mention his Khazar or can i say Kike brothers, he become so sensitive, we should make a thread on this, lets question the true origin of Khazars, maybe they are related to Tajiks as they are both turkmen haha!

Khushal Khan Khattak
05-02-2010, 01:22 PM
Have you ever read a book in your life?

http://www.amazon.com/Treacherous-Alliance-Secret-Dealings-Israel/dp/0300120575

Sangar be a little more polite dude, we are all brothers here.

As for your viewpoints on Iran, I am not clear, rather confused.

Do you actually support an American invasion of Iran?

MazloomyarMaseed
05-02-2010, 01:25 PM
Report: Saudis may allow Israel's use of air space

Western security sources believe Saudi Arabia will readily let Israel use the country's airspace to strike neighboring Iran if a war breaks out between the archenemies.

Prominent German news magazine SPIEGEL claimed in a Tuesday article that there exists a strong unity between Israel and Persian Gulf's Arab states against Iran.

The periodical noted that Riyadh has gone so far with the idea as to speak openly to US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton of the potential need for a military option against the Islamic Republic.

SPIEGEl also cited Western intelligence agencies who believe that the Saudis would even open up their air space to Israeli jets for an attack on Iran.

This is while the United States has been reported intent on not allowing Israeli warplanes to fly over Iraq, it added.

The report also referred to an Arab League ministerial summit where they unanimously called on the Palestinians to start a new round of US-sponsored "proximity talks" with Israel.

Observers reiterate that SPIEGEl is greatly influenced by the Israeli regime and has previously published reports that were meant to serve as an Israeli propaganda campaign ore psychological warfare against the Islamic Republic.

MRS/MB

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=121027&sectionid=351020205

Khushal Khan Khattak
05-02-2010, 01:39 PM
Report: Saudis may allow Israel's use of air space


They have even secretly allowed Israeli Ari Force training on their soil for this attack.

Let me get this straight.

People calling themselves Muslims and custodians of the Holy Masajid, in bed with Americans and Israelis to attack a Muslim State Iran and allow invasion then destruction of that people?

WoW, Just wow !!! :woot:

The current Royal family of Saudia are Banu Hanifa:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_saud

the family had ruled the Nejd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nejd)

The House of Saud is linked with (Hanbali) Wahhabism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism) (Saudis deprecate the term, preferring the term Salafism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafism)) through the marriage of the son of Muhammad ibn Saud (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_ibn_Saud) with the daughter of Muhammad Abd al Wahhab (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Abd_al_Wahhab) in 1744 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1744).

The earliest recorded ancestor of the Al Saud was Mani' ibn Rabi'ah al-Muraydi, who, according to the chroniclers of Nejd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nejd)

The Mrudah became rulers of al-Diriyah, which prospered along the banks of Wadi Hanifa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wadi_Hanifa)

Dude they are from Banu Hanifa.

Wanna know what the Prophet said about them:


===========================

From books of hadith in the chapters devoted to the battles against the Banu Hanifa:
"At the end of times a man will come out of Musaylima's country and he will change the religion of Islam." Note: Most of the Khawarij were from the Najd area, from the tribes of Banu Hanifa, Banu Tamim, and Wa'il. Musaylima was from the Banu Hanifa, and Ibn `Abd al-Wahhab is from Tamim.




Abu Bakr said concerning the Banu Hanifa (the tribe of Musaylima the Liar): "Their valley [Najd] will not cease to be a valley of dissensions until the end of time, and the religion will never recover from their liars until Judgment Day," and in another version: "Woe to al-Yamama without end."


"The confusion [fitna] comes from there (and he pointed to the East = Najd in present-day Eastern Saudi Arabia)."




"The apex of disbelief is towards the East [Najd]. Pride and arrogance is found among the people of the horse and the camel [Bedouin Arabs]."




"Harshness and dryness of heart are in the East [Najd], and true belief is among the people of Hijaz."




"O Allah, bless our Syria and our Yemen!" They said: "Ya Rasulallah, and our Najd!" He didn't reply. He blessed Syria and Yemen twice more. They asked him to bless Najd twice more but he didn't reply. The third time he said: "There [in Najd] are the earthquakes and the dissensions, and through it will dawn the epoch [or horn] of shaytan."




A version has, "The two epochs [or horns] of shaytan." Some scholars have said that the dual referred to Musaylima the Arch-liar and to Muhammad ibn `Abd al-Wahhab.




===================================

شمله ور خراساني
05-02-2010, 01:46 PM
Khattak,

Did you know there is a sahih Hadith praising Banu Tamim to be the tribe to be the fearest in their battle against Dajjal?

And did you know Ibn Hajar al Asqalani gave tafsir of the hadith regarding Najd saying it refers to what is now Iraq?


It's so sad to see someone go online bragging to be a medical doctor who makes a total fool of himself copying and pasting from Sufi grave-worshippers propaganda websites.

Khushal Khan Khattak
05-02-2010, 01:54 PM
Did you know there is a sahih Hadith praising Banu Tamim to be the tribe to be the fearest in their battle against Dajjal?
.

I havent come across it but strangely you have.
Though I have spent a decade reading Islamic eschatology from only the Sihai Sitta.


And did you know Ibn Hajar al Asqalani gave tafsir of the hadith regarding Najd saying it refers to what is now Iraq?


One Al Hajar againsta the multitude of the Ulema saying Najd is in Saudia. Taking Asqalani to be true is how you deal with things > instead of taking ijmaa take the exception. Is this the right way?


It's so sad to see someone go online bragging to be a medical doctor

Never bragged, but said I study Genetics when you said you knew more about DNA than me. And it was I who went to the Medical University.



who makes a total fool of himself

A personal attack, how very typical. The only weapon I am guessing left with you by this time. However, I do not attack personally.



copying and pasting from Sufi grave-worshippers propaganda websites.

I dont copy paste like someone here famous for that :Geek:.
As for being from:


Sufi grave-worshippers propaganda websites.

They are present in the Sihahi Sitta, you claim to be the religious scholar, go check them out in there and let us know where exactly they are.

Thanx.

شمله ور خراساني
05-02-2010, 02:04 PM
I havent come across it but strangely you have.
Though I have spent a decade reading Islamic eschatology from only the Sihai Sitta.



One Al Hajar againsta the multitude of the Ulema saying Najd is in Saudia. Taking Asqalani to be true is how you deal with things > instead of taking ijmaa take the exception. Is this the right way?



Never bragged, but said I study Genetics when you said you knew more about DNA than me. And it was I who went to the Medical University.




A personal attack, how very typical. The only weapon I am guessing left with you by this time. However, I do not attack personally.




I dont copy paste like someone here famous for that :Geek:.
As for being from:



They are present in the Sihahi Sitta, you claim to be the religious scholar, go check them out in there and let us know where exactly they are.

Thanx.



Oh please, you know the 6 books, right? And you know who Ibn Hajar is? What kind of Ijma of what kind of scholars? After Ibn Hajar's tafsir of the hadith there is no doubt about it. The subject is only braught up recently because the grave-worshippers and magicians were unhappy to see that the students of Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab At Tamimi succesfully eradicated the practice of idol-worshipping from the Arabian Peninsula.

If you have never came across the hadith in praise of Banu Tamim, it means you have never studied Sahih Muslim.

Abu Hurairah, may Allah be pleased with him, reported:
Ever since I heard three things from Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) my love for Banu Tamim has never declined (and these things are): I heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying about them that they would put up stout resistance against Al-Dajjal among my Ummah. And he (the narrator) said: (When) the consignment of charity was brought to him, Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: This is the Charity of our people. There was one female-slave in the house of 'A'ishah and she was from the tribe of Banu Tamim; thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Set her free, for she is from the offspring of Ishmael.
Hadith number in Sahih Muslim [Arabic only]: 4587 (http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Hierarchy.asp?Src=1&AlmiaNum=4586)

MazloomyarMaseed
05-02-2010, 02:45 PM
Khattak,

Did you know there is a sahih Hadith praising Banu Tamim to be the tribe to be the fearest in their battle against Dajjal?

And did you know Ibn Hajar al Asqalani gave tafsir of the hadith regarding Najd saying it refers to what is now Iraq?


It's so sad to see someone go online bragging to be a medical doctor who makes a total fool of himself copying and pasting from Sufi grave-worshippers propaganda websites.


That is a clear insult to a Member of this forum. If you want to go personel i can write a whole paragraph against you Mr sanger, You are making members here very against you. Maybe its your Tajik side that has something against Pashtuns and whatever they beleive in.

Sangar...Are you a member of ANjum Chaundrys Salafist Group.


Let me give you an example of your salafist coward hipocrites, you ever heard of omar bakri???

hahahah the coward arab wanted to run to UK when Israel attacked Hezbullah, also tell me where was your Salafist worriors when lebenon got attacked??? who fought? it was the Shias who did, while your Wahabist Salafist backward twisted Arab desert bedions were relaxing with their 20some wives in their palaces, it was others fighting Israel.

MazloomyarMaseed
05-02-2010, 02:48 PM
Oh please, you know the 6 books, right? And you know who Ibn Hajar is? What kind of Ijma of what kind of scholars? After Ibn Hajar's tafsir of the hadith there is no doubt about it. The subject is only braught up recently because the grave-worshippers and magicians were unhappy to see that the students of Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab At Tamimi succesfully eradicated the practice of idol-worshipping from the Arabian Peninsula.

If you have never came across the hadith in praise of Banu Tamim, it means you have never studied Sahih Muslim.

Abu Hurairah, may Allah be pleased with him, reported:
Ever since I heard three things from Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) my love for Banu Tamim has never declined (and these things are): I heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying about them that they would put up stout resistance against Al-Dajjal among my Ummah. And he (the narrator) said: (When) the consignment of charity was brought to him, Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: This is the Charity of our people. There was one female-slave in the house of 'A'ishah and she was from the tribe of Banu Tamim; thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Set her free, for she is from the offspring of Ishmael.
Hadith number in Sahih Muslim [Arabic only]: 4587 (http://hadith.al-islam.com/Display/Hierarchy.asp?Src=1&AlmiaNum=4586)


Ha ha ha Sanger you truely do feel very spritually higher than us all. I bet you will one day think you are a Saint hahaha! does it give you a High quating all these texts trying to make us all look dumb??? asif we really give a damme lol! You wait till the oil is over, we will see what resources will peddle wahabism and salafism. Salafists such as Omar Bakri r a great example of their cowards

شمله ور خراساني
05-02-2010, 02:48 PM
If you want to go personel i can write a whole paragraph against you Mr sanger,
Darling, 90% of your posts on this forum evolve around my personality and what I say here.

Believe me, I am not bothered. For all I care you write a whole book. In fact you should write a book about me.

شمله ور خراساني
05-02-2010, 02:51 PM
Ha ha ha Sanger you trying to make us all look dumb???
No effort of mine is necessary to make you look dumb. You are doing a great job yourself.

MazloomyarMaseed
05-02-2010, 02:52 PM
Darling, 90% of your posts on this forum evolve around my personality and what I say here.

Believe me, I am not bothered. For all I care you write a whole book. In fact you should write a book about me.


Sangar................Neighter Am i bothered.

But why is your Afghan Taliban sending jirqa to release a Punjabi ISI col Imam???? you still not answer this?

You are more pakistani than me! loose the closket Anti Pakistanism man!

We all know you peddle ISI Ideas.

MazloomyarMaseed
05-02-2010, 02:53 PM
No effort of mine is necessary to make you look dumb. You are doing a great job yourself.

Oh really....Whenever i read your comments, I watch a video of Anjum Chaundry and then it assures me how truely retarded salafists truely are.

Khushal Khan Khattak
05-02-2010, 03:05 PM
Maybe its your Tajik side that has something against Pashtuns and whatever they beleive in.

Sangar...Are you a member of ANjum Chaundrys Salafist Group.


Let me give you an example of your salafist coward hipocrites, you ever heard of omar bakri???

hahahah the coward arab wanted to run to UK when Israel attacked Hezbullah, also tell me where was your Salafist worriors when lebenon got attacked??? who fought? it was the Shias who did, while your Wahabist Salafist backward twisted Arab desert bedions were relaxing with their 20some wives in their palaces, it was others fighting Israel.

No effort of mine is necessary to make you look dumb. You are doing a great job yourself.

Would you two just stop attacking each other personally!!!!

God!!!

Look lets just post and debate without getting down to personal details and beliefs and usage of abuses and bad words.

Thanx !!!

:awkward:

imb706
05-03-2010, 04:56 AM
Oh god....Khazars are not jewish by blood, majority of jews today are Khazars, they are like the Jewish version of Salafism. Radical, Cruel etc and not of any pure blood.lul, wut. Conspiracy theorist have bizarre "logic."

Instead of people voicing their opinions on Iran, this thread got hijacked by someone who can barely read and write propagating stupid conspiracy theories. XD However ~20% of the Ashkenazi have DNA that has semitic traits! How? These once Central Asian and later Eastern European Mongol tribes converted to Judaism by preachers from Babylonia, Persia, Central Asian and modern day Afghanistan and Pakistani Jews around 700-1200 AD. In some cases, the real Jews (Sephardic = Babylonia, Persia, Central Asian and modern day Afghanistan and Pakistani) even married the Askhenazi. Hence the DNA occurance. "The simplest technique to prove Askhenazi are White Mongols and not Semitic is that Sephardics and Arabs have Black/Brown hair and Brown eyes & tan complexion, The Askenazi dont. Rather, like the Turks and Eastern Europeans, they have blond/red hair, green/blue eyes and are very fair/pale. The Israelites were not White pale people". As for history, one the most famous of Sephardic Rabbis/ scholars of Mishna and Halaka etc. was the Muslim Spains Jewish Prime Minister, who travelled recieved a letter from the king of the converted Jews, the Khazars where the king write down his family tree that show his descent from Japheth Not Shem. Well, I am no expert on Israeli citizen's DNA traits, but I'm more inclined to accept the findings and results of geneticist than well, some people on a forum. No offense of course, but anything can be said on a website's message board. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazar#Alleged_Khazar_ancestry_of_Ashkenazim Nevertheless, in the Arab world the Khazar theory still enjoys popularity among some anti-Zionists[24] and antisemites;[43] Such proponents argue that if Ashkenazi Jews are primarily Khazar and not Semitic in origin, they would have no historical claim to Israel, nor would they be the subject of God's Biblical promise of Canaan to the Israelites, thus undermining the theological basis of both Jewish religious Zionists and Christian Zionists. In the 1970s and 80s the Khazar theory was also advanced by some Russian chauvinist antisemites, particularly the historian Lev Gumilyov, who portrayed "Judeo-Khazars" as having repeatedly sabotaged Russia's development since the 7th century.[44] Bernard Lewis stated in 1999: This theory… is supported by no evidence whatsoever. It has long since been abandoned by all serious scholars in the field, including those in Arab countries, where the Khazar theory is little used except in occasional political polemics.[24] The Israeli historian Shlomo Sand explored the theme of the Khazar ancestry of the Ashkenazi Jews in his controversial book The Invention of the Jewish People, first published in 2008.[45][46] Sand claims that Israeli historians have marginalized the thesis of Khazar ancestry, and points out that from 1951 to the present, not a single historical work on the Khazars has been published in Hebrew.[47] Some historians have criticised the quality of Sand's research; Simon Schama, in his review of Sand's book, writes: "to argue that the entirety of Ashkenazi Jewry must necessarily descend from the Khazars is to make precisely the uncritical claim of uninterrupted genealogy Sand is eager to dispute in the wider context of Jewish history.[48] Anita Shapira wrote "Sand bases his arguments on the most esoteric and controversial interpretations, while seeking to undermine the credibility of important scholars by dismissing their conclusions without bringing any evidence to bear."[49] [edit] DNA Evidence A 1999 study by Hammer et al., published in the Proceedings of the United States National Academy of Sciences compared the Y chromosomes of Ashkenazi, Roman, North African, Kurdish, Near Eastern, Yemenite, and Ethiopian Jews with 16 non-Jewish groups from similar geographic locations. It found that "Despite their long-term residence in different countries and isolation from one another, most Jewish populations were not significantly different from one another at the genetic level... The results support the hypothesis that the paternal gene pools of Jewish communities from Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East descended from a common Middle Eastern ancestral population, and suggest that most Jewish communities have remained relatively isolated from neighboring non-Jewish communities during and after the Diaspora."[50] According to Nicholas Wade "The results accord with Jewish history and tradition and refute theories like those holding that Jewish communities consist mostly of converts from other faiths, or that they are descended from the Khazars, a medieval Turkish tribe that adopted Judaism."[51] A 2001 study by Nebel et al. found Haplogroup R1a chromosomes (called Eu 19 in the paper), which are very frequent in Eastern European populations (54%-60%), at elevated frequency (12.7%) in Ashkenazi Jews. The authors hypothesized that these chromosomes could reflect low-level gene flow into Ashkenazi populations from surrounding Eastern European populations, or, alternatively, that both the Ashkenazi Jews in Haplogroup R1a, and to a greater extent all Eastern European populations in general, might have some partial Khazar ancestry.[52] A 2003 study of the Y-chromosome by Behar et al. found that among Ashkenazi Levites, who comprise approximately 4% of Ashkenazi Jews, the prevalence of Haplogroup R1a1 was over 50%. This haplogroup is uncommon in other Jewish groups, but found in high frequencies in eastern European populations. They argued that "it is likely that the event leading to a high frequency of R1a1 NRYs within the Ashkenazi Levites involved very few, and possibly only one, founding father." They postulated that one likely source of the gene was a "a founder(s) of non-Jewish European ancestry, whose descendents were able to assume Levite status", and that an alternate "attractive source would be the Khazarian Kingdom, whose ruling class is thought to have converted to Judaism in the 8th or 9th century." The concluded that "[a]lthough neither the NRY haplogroup composition of the majority of Ashkenazi Jews nor the microsatellite haplotype composition of the R1a1 haplogroup within Ashkenazi Levites is consistent with a major Khazar or other European origin, as has been speculated by some authors (Baron 1957; Dunlop 1967; Ben-Sasson 1976; Keys 1999), one cannot rule out the important contribution of a single or a few founders among contemporary Ashkenazi Levites."[53] A 2005 study by Nebel et al., based on Y chromosome polymorphic markers, showed that Ashkenazi Jews are more closely related to other Jewish and Middle Eastern groups than to their local neighbouring populations in Europe. However, 11.5% of male Ashkenazim were found to belong to Haplogroup R1a1 (R-M17), the dominant Y chromosome haplogroup in Eastern Europeans, suggesting possible gene flow between the two groups. The authors hypothesized that "R-M17 chromosomes in Ashkenazim may represent vestiges of the mysterious Khazars". They concluded "However, if the R-M17 chromosomes in Ashkenazi Jews do indeed represent the vestiges of the mysterious Khazars then, according to our data, this contribution was limited to either a single founder or a few closely related men, and does not exceed ~ 12% of the present-day Ashkenazim.[54]

tor_khan
05-03-2010, 10:53 AM
^
Poor formatting. Not really willing to read any of that.

imb706
05-03-2010, 10:57 AM
Um...good for you?

tor_khan
05-03-2010, 11:07 AM
^

ته سره به څوک مازغه خلاص کښی؟

imb706
05-03-2010, 11:22 AM
No offense, but such responses just conjure up a mighty yawn from me. It's like those people who find something they don't like on the internet, and then post that "they don't care" yet cared enough to post about it in the first place XD

tor_khan
05-03-2010, 11:35 AM
^
:banghead: Oh no ... we're headed for another one. You obviously cared enough (yourself) to react. So go ahead, yawn away.

Rhetorical question - more a thinking point so I'm not actually looking for an answer - when you say "No offence", do you mean it or is it a way of beginning a sarcastic remark?

I just pointed out the poor formatting. Clearly you were irritated by that. Won't pursue it.

imb706
05-03-2010, 11:37 AM
Oh come on, you can try harder than that.

imb706
05-03-2010, 12:16 PM
Finally someone being on topic! I must ask though, have you been to Iran? Do a lot of pashtuns feel as you do?

inqilab
05-03-2010, 04:03 PM
Iran has a significance. We believe an army of jews will come from iran (isfahan) to support the antichrist.

Iran makes a lot of antiamerican noise. But they love everything american. When i was in tehran they loved me. Of course i had to hide that i was sunni. Or they would of probably attacked me.

There are no sunni masjids in tehran. This is prohibited. although they have jewish synagogues there.

inqilab
05-03-2010, 04:06 PM
And yes. They want to spread their old safavid imperial thought. As their predecessors did. The shia crescent.

They do not care about palestine. They only care to take it over. bc it is part of their shia doctrine.

inqilab
05-03-2010, 04:12 PM
antichrist = dajjal

MazloomyarMaseed
05-04-2010, 10:28 AM
Iran has a significance. We believe an army of jews will come from iran (isfahan) to support the antichrist.

Iran makes a lot of antiamerican noise. But they love everything american. When i was in tehran they loved me. Of course i had to hide that i was sunni. Or they would of probably attacked me.

There are no sunni masjids in tehran. This is prohibited. although they have jewish synagogues there.


How much does Arab intelligence pay you to spread such non sense.

First of all there are synogonges there because jews have a strong history there, you see, Iran didnt expell them out of jealously like your Arab Camel Jockeys did in the middle east.

Militant Mullah....We all know you will side with anybody to destroy Iran and put their oil under your Sheiks control, this will not work, just like your Salafists did to Saddam when they supported an American invasion with Saudi Wahabist help.

Your Salafists have become a big joke, you ever see your Wahabist leaders sitting in europe and especially America going into malls buying expensive items with the money tey robb of Hajjj goers.

also Militant Mullah, just because Iran is not a Arab colony, doesnt mean you can spread false information about Iran, Tell me a single Arab country who has achevieved better than Iran in techonogy? Arabs are only good for yapping their mouths and doing nothing but blowing themselves up and blackmailing people with hell fire in the afterlife.